14 years and counting...

PJ_Soul

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

dankind

One Honduran woman claims that her baby daughter was taken away from her while breastfeeding. What heartless, soulless motherfuckers we've become. The sea levels can't rise fast enough to rid this beautiful planet of such an awful plague of a species.

my2hands

Cold & heartless is the new cool to some folks

I agree with dankind, let the nukes fly

josevolution

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

coming from you this doesn't surprize me at all have a great day eating your cake next time your in the playgorund with your kids just try to think about the children that are being kept away from their parents ...

josevolution

dankind said:

One Honduran woman claims that her baby daughter was taken away from her while breastfeeding. What heartless, soulless motherfuckers we've become. The sea levels can't rise fast enough to rid this beautiful planet of such an awful plague of a species.

I feel the same way we've become a despicable race and today i'm ashamed to be living here with folks like the one above who has no apathy ....

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

The whole “trying to better for their children” thing could apply to bank robbers too. I don’t buy it.

and still the handling of the situation by the current admin and authorities is awful and shouldn’t be tolerated. It is immoral to take the children away without providing care and security.  I can’t even imagine who thought up this plan.

josevolution

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

The whole “trying to better for their children” thing could apply to bank robbers too. I don’t buy it.

and still the handling of the situation by the current admin and authorities is awful and shouldn’t be tolerated. It is immoral to take the children away without providing care and security.  I can’t even imagine who thought up this plan.

Agree the countries where these folks are running from should be held accountable too .....

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

The whole “trying to better for their children” thing could apply to bank robbers too. I don’t buy it.

and still the handling of the situation by the current admin and authorities is awful and shouldn’t be tolerated. It is immoral to take the children away without providing care and security.  I can’t even imagine who thought up this plan.

Pardon? Bank robbers generally pose a serious threat to people's lives and are stealing from others. How can you make that comparison?? Not all crimes are equal.
If people are bringing their children with them through a very risky experience, why the hell else do you think they're doing it? What is it you're not buying? If they aren't bringing their kids with them across the border like that in order to try and find some better life or more opportunities for their family, what do you think they're doing? They're certainly not running to the US to make sure they maintain the exact same life they've been living in Mexico.
But in any case, here you are acknowledging that taking these children away they way they are is immoral and shouldn't be tolerated (separating the kids from their parents at all is wholly unnecessary no matter how it's done btw), but that is a contradiction to what you said above. I'm not trying to rag on you (... not really, lol), I'm just trying to figure out how one can claim to be happy with what Trump and his administration is doing but then often say how you're not happy about a bunch of stuff.... It just doesn't make much sense to me.
So again, what exactly has Trump done that you're happy with?

jeffbr

Someone needs to put ICE back on the short leash, but that won't happen with the 5'3" hillbilly Sessions running the show. 

ICE detains legal resident who lived in US for 50 years

62 years old, and has lived here for 50 years, and has "legal" status. But it is a tough time to live in the US if you speak with an accent and your skin is brown.

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

The whole “trying to better for their children” thing could apply to bank robbers too. I don’t buy it.

and still the handling of the situation by the current admin and authorities is awful and shouldn’t be tolerated. It is immoral to take the children away without providing care and security.  I can’t even imagine who thought up this plan.

Pardon? Bank robbers generally pose a serious threat to people's lives and are stealing from others. How can you make that comparison?? Not all crimes are equal.
If people are bringing their children with them through a very risky experience, why the hell else do you think they're doing it? What is it you're not buying? If they aren't bringing their kids with them across the border like that in order to try and find some better life or more opportunities for their family, what do you think they're doing? They're certainly not running to the US to make sure they maintain the exact same life they've been living in Mexico.
But in any case, here you are acknowledging that taking these children away they way they are is immoral and shouldn't be tolerated (separating the kids from their parents at all is wholly unnecessary no matter how it's done btw), but that is a contradiction to what you said above. I'm not trying to rag on you (... not really, lol), I'm just trying to figure out how one can claim to be happy with what Trump and his administration is doing but then often say how you're not happy about a bunch of stuff.... It just doesn't make much sense to me.
So again, what exactly has Trump done that you're happy with?

cincy and rolemodels are two different posters. 

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

The whole “trying to better for their children” thing could apply to bank robbers too. I don’t buy it.

and still the handling of the situation by the current admin and authorities is awful and shouldn’t be tolerated. It is immoral to take the children away without providing care and security.  I can’t even imagine who thought up this plan.

Pardon? Bank robbers generally pose a serious threat to people's lives and are stealing from others. How can you make that comparison?? Not all crimes are equal.
If people are bringing their children with them through a very risky experience, why the hell else do you think they're doing it? What is it you're not buying? If they aren't bringing their kids with them across the border like that in order to try and find some better life or more opportunities for their family, what do you think they're doing? They're certainly not running to the US to make sure they maintain the exact same life they've been living in Mexico.
But in any case, here you are acknowledging that taking these children away they way they are is immoral and shouldn't be tolerated (separating the kids from their parents at all is wholly unnecessary no matter how it's done btw), but that is a contradiction to what you said above. I'm not trying to rag on you (... not really, lol), I'm just trying to figure out how one can claim to be happy with what Trump and his administration is doing but then often say how you're not happy about a bunch of stuff.... It just doesn't make much sense to me.
So again, what exactly has Trump done that you're happy with?

cincy and rolemodels are two different posters. 

Whoops! Sorry Cincy! I thought you were the other guy! Still, your bank robber comparison seems nuts to me, and my questions about why you "don't buy it" still stand.

RoleModelsinBlood31

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

tbergs said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

Well, I'm glad it has worked out how you wanted because I agree that he has done a lot of the things he told his voters; however, I disagree with pretty much all of what those were so I am very unsatisfied. It sounds like you are on the way to voting him in a 2nd term. Do you think there is any long term ramifications for the policies and executive orders he is putting in place? A lot of people believe that what he is doing with the tax cuts, spending bloat and deregulation will send us in to another recession in a few years.

Well I’m not exactly sure I’ll vote for him- depends who the candidates are.  I don’t vote strictly party line, it depends on the issues and where they stand.   I’ll see what the picture is like when that campaign is underway.

as for the economy question, I think it’s a roller coaster and things don’t stay great forever nor do they stay shitty forever, it goes up and down.

as far as the executive orders go, it depends on which ones you’re talking about.  Name some and I’ll be happy to give you my opinion.

Are you comfortable voting for him again with this new news about all the illegal activity conducted by him and his children via his so-called charity?

Genuinely curious: what has he done that has made you happy, specifically?

I honestly haven’t heard the news but it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true- the rich do that, it doesn’t matter which party they represent.  I don’t def nd him- It’s the same to me as the Clinton foundation.  It’s the system we live in where the have’s always take care of the have’s- whether they claim they’re for the people or the rich, they’re all for the rich.  People get confused and think because you voted for someone you’re somehow responsible for shit they did like 20 years before- not really.

things that he’s done that have made me happy- I don’t have time to make a huge list as I’m in lunch rush so this is just off the top of my head:

-stopped apologizing for america to other countries- has an America 1st mentality which is important when he’s America’s president
-shows and gives respect to the police and the military.  They put themselves at risk everyday and take a ton of shit, they should be thanked more often than they are.
-doesn’t try to appease terrorism, just cuts off aid and persuades other countries supplying aid to stop
-met with Un.  Whether or not you like it, this was a massive accomplishment as far as human rights goes.  Hopefully things continue to get better in that country.
-putting Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court.
-tax plan. I of course know it flips in a few years but it happened when I needed it to.  It got banks lending money again and I was able to secure several loans I needed where as it was much harder just a year or two ago.  Glad I waited.
-it’s driven the left to act like crybabies.  This is just awesome.  Watching grown adults sling insults like they’re 12 year olds, people red in the face mad, it’s hilarious.  All over stuff that doesn’t even affect them.  My brother is lie this, he posts all kinds of crazy left wing stuff, drank the kool aid apparently.



Reasons why I’m not psyched I voted for him:
-banning trans folk from the military.  I know it got reversed but wtf?! Who cares?
-his Twitter account
-every article I see is some bs about how bad he is

Honestly I haven’t really read the news in a few weeks, I’ve been too busy, and when I have time I listen to baseball podcasts and pj bootlegs.  I just stay away for the most part, people are way too worked up over shit.

im looking forward to checking out the IG report though, I have a feeling it’ll be juicy.

sorry if this doesn’t make sense totally- I wrote it over the last hour and a half , in like 20 different sessions on my phone.

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

The whole “trying to better for their children” thing could apply to bank robbers too. I don’t buy it.

and still the handling of the situation by the current admin and authorities is awful and shouldn’t be tolerated. It is immoral to take the children away without providing care and security.  I can’t even imagine who thought up this plan.

Pardon? Bank robbers generally pose a serious threat to people's lives and are stealing from others. How can you make that comparison?? Not all crimes are equal.
If people are bringing their children with them through a very risky experience, why the hell else do you think they're doing it? What is it you're not buying? If they aren't bringing their kids with them across the border like that in order to try and find some better life or more opportunities for their family, what do you think they're doing? They're certainly not running to the US to make sure they maintain the exact same life they've been living in Mexico.
But in any case, here you are acknowledging that taking these children away they way they are is immoral and shouldn't be tolerated (separating the kids from their parents at all is wholly unnecessary no matter how it's done btw), but that is a contradiction to what you said above. I'm not trying to rag on you (... not really, lol), I'm just trying to figure out how one can claim to be happy with what Trump and his administration is doing but then often say how you're not happy about a bunch of stuff.... It just doesn't make much sense to me.
So again, what exactly has Trump done that you're happy with?

What was in contradiction to what I said?

josevolution

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

tbergs said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

Well, I'm glad it has worked out how you wanted because I agree that he has done a lot of the things he told his voters; however, I disagree with pretty much all of what those were so I am very unsatisfied. It sounds like you are on the way to voting him in a 2nd term. Do you think there is any long term ramifications for the policies and executive orders he is putting in place? A lot of people believe that what he is doing with the tax cuts, spending bloat and deregulation will send us in to another recession in a few years.

Well I’m not exactly sure I’ll vote for him- depends who the candidates are.  I don’t vote strictly party line, it depends on the issues and where they stand.   I’ll see what the picture is like when that campaign is underway.

as for the economy question, I think it’s a roller coaster and things don’t stay great forever nor do they stay shitty forever, it goes up and down.

as far as the executive orders go, it depends on which ones you’re talking about.  Name some and I’ll be happy to give you my opinion.

Are you comfortable voting for him again with this new news about all the illegal activity conducted by him and his children via his so-called charity?

Genuinely curious: what has he done that has made you happy, specifically?

I honestly haven’t heard the news but it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true- the rich do that, it doesn’t matter which party they represent.  I don’t def nd him- It’s the same to me as the Clinton foundation.  It’s the system we live in where the have’s always take care of the have’s- whether they claim they’re for the people or the rich, they’re all for the rich.  People get confused and think because you voted for someone you’re somehow responsible for shit they did like 20 years before- not really.

things that he’s done that have made me happy- I don’t have time to make a huge list as I’m in lunch rush so this is just off the top of my head:

-stopped apologizing for america to other countries- has an America 1st mentality which is important when he’s America’s president
-shows and gives respect to the police and the military.  They put themselves at risk everyday and take a ton of shit, they should be thanked more often than they are.
-doesn’t try to appease terrorism, just cuts off aid and persuades other countries supplying aid to stop
-met with Un.  Whether or not you like it, this was a massive accomplishment as far as human rights goes.  Hopefully things continue to get better in that country.
-putting Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court.
-tax plan. I of course know it flips in a few years but it happened when I needed it to.  It got banks lending money again and I was able to secure several loans I needed where as it was much harder just a year or two ago.  Glad I waited.
-it’s driven the left to act like crybabies.  This is just awesome.  Watching grown adults sling insults like they’re 12 year olds, people red in the face mad, it’s hilarious.  All over stuff that doesn’t even affect them.  My brother is lie this, he posts all kinds of crazy left wing stuff, drank the kool aid apparently.



Reasons why I’m not psyched I voted for him:
-banning trans folk from the military.  I know it got reversed but wtf?! Who cares?
-his Twitter account
-every article I see is some bs about how bad he is

Honestly I haven’t really read the news in a few weeks, I’ve been too busy, and when I have time I listen to baseball podcasts and pj bootlegs.  I just stay away for the most part, people are way too worked up over shit.

im looking forward to checking out the IG report though, I have a feeling it’ll be juicy.

sorry if this doesn’t make sense totally- I wrote it over the last hour and a half , in like 20 different sessions on my phone.

Do me a favor you live in TEXAS that's where a majority of the kids are being kept why don't you go over there and give them a couple of PIZZA pies just not the one you named after baffoon , that has to be a big seller orange meatball extra cheese pie ....

PJ_Soul

Wait, there is nothing "the same" between the Clinton Foundation and Trump's foundation and these accusations against Trump and his kids (this isn't new news btw. The only thing that's new is that the state of New York has gathered up all the old news into a package that allows it to sue the Trumps.

Okay. So you are psyched that they banned trans folks - folks who fight for your country - from the military.... even though they failed. So you're a transphobe, and are happy about a failure there. And then you say you're happy about the RESPECT he gives the military? Hm. So much respect that he respects soldiers who don't get caught, and then got in a big fight with the family of a dead soldier because they are Muslims?
You're psyched about the POTUS acting like an insane teenager on Twitter, and using social media to destroy international relations and to undermine his own legal team.
And you're psyched that there is so much news about how much he sucks. Okey dokey - so you like voting for a shitty POTUS because he's shitty. Awesome.
And you're please with how he's destroying America's trade relationships under the guise of "America First" (which will lead to economic woes for Americans).
Stopped apologizing? When did America ever apologize to to other countries?
Does try to appease terrorism... unless it's domestic terrorists of course.
Met with Un.... and literally NOTHING about that meeting had anything to do with human rights at all. On the contrary.
And then you enjoy the left "acting like cry babies slinging insults like 12 years olds".... what, what? I didn't know Trump was left wing!
As for people being upset about "things that don't effect them".... well that's just about the most ignorant statement I've ever seen on the AMT. Actually, your whole post is. Seriously, just about everything you just said is fucking ridiculous and makes little to no sense when held up to reality. So yeah, you were right that it doesn't sense, but I really doubt that it's because you wrote it quickly or did it in 20 sessions on your phone. Sorry, I'm not trying to be an asshole... it's just that what you just wrote... there is really no other way for me to respond.

HughFreakingDillon

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

tbergs said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

Well, I'm glad it has worked out how you wanted because I agree that he has done a lot of the things he told his voters; however, I disagree with pretty much all of what those were so I am very unsatisfied. It sounds like you are on the way to voting him in a 2nd term. Do you think there is any long term ramifications for the policies and executive orders he is putting in place? A lot of people believe that what he is doing with the tax cuts, spending bloat and deregulation will send us in to another recession in a few years.

Well I’m not exactly sure I’ll vote for him- depends who the candidates are.  I don’t vote strictly party line, it depends on the issues and where they stand.   I’ll see what the picture is like when that campaign is underway.

as for the economy question, I think it’s a roller coaster and things don’t stay great forever nor do they stay shitty forever, it goes up and down.

as far as the executive orders go, it depends on which ones you’re talking about.  Name some and I’ll be happy to give you my opinion.

Are you comfortable voting for him again with this new news about all the illegal activity conducted by him and his children via his so-called charity?

Genuinely curious: what has he done that has made you happy, specifically?

I honestly haven’t heard the news but it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true- the rich do that, it doesn’t matter which party they represent.  I don’t def nd him- It’s the same to me as the Clinton foundation.  It’s the system we live in where the have’s always take care of the have’s- whether they claim they’re for the people or the rich, they’re all for the rich.  People get confused and think because you voted for someone you’re somehow responsible for shit they did like 20 years before- not really.

things that he’s done that have made me happy- I don’t have time to make a huge list as I’m in lunch rush so this is just off the top of my head:

-stopped apologizing for america to other countries- has an America 1st mentality which is important when he’s America’s president
-shows and gives respect to the police and the military.  They put themselves at risk everyday and take a ton of shit, they should be thanked more often than they are.
-doesn’t try to appease terrorism, just cuts off aid and persuades other countries supplying aid to stop
-met with Un.  Whether or not you like it, this was a massive accomplishment as far as human rights goes.  Hopefully things continue to get better in that country.
-putting Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court.
-tax plan. I of course know it flips in a few years but it happened when I needed it to.  It got banks lending money again and I was able to secure several loans I needed where as it was much harder just a year or two ago.  Glad I waited.
-it’s driven the left to act like crybabies.  This is just awesome.  Watching grown adults sling insults like they’re 12 year olds, people red in the face mad, it’s hilarious.  All over stuff that doesn’t even affect them.  My brother is lie this, he posts all kinds of crazy left wing stuff, drank the kool aid apparently.



Reasons why I’m not psyched I voted for him:
-banning trans folk from the military.  I know it got reversed but wtf?! Who cares?
-his Twitter account
-every article I see is some bs about how bad he is

Honestly I haven’t really read the news in a few weeks, I’ve been too busy, and when I have time I listen to baseball podcasts and pj bootlegs.  I just stay away for the most part, people are way too worked up over shit.

im looking forward to checking out the IG report though, I have a feeling it’ll be juicy.

sorry if this doesn’t make sense totally- I wrote it over the last hour and a half , in like 20 different sessions on my phone.

amazing that you attribute this to one side. I see just as much, if not more of this, from the right. it's baffling how the right keeps calling the left "snowflakes" when all they seem to want to do, as you proved right there, is to "drive the left mad". it's childish and just plain ridiculous. 

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

The whole “trying to better for their children” thing could apply to bank robbers too. I don’t buy it.

and still the handling of the situation by the current admin and authorities is awful and shouldn’t be tolerated. It is immoral to take the children away without providing care and security.  I can’t even imagine who thought up this plan.

Pardon? Bank robbers generally pose a serious threat to people's lives and are stealing from others. How can you make that comparison?? Not all crimes are equal.
If people are bringing their children with them through a very risky experience, why the hell else do you think they're doing it? What is it you're not buying? If they aren't bringing their kids with them across the border like that in order to try and find some better life or more opportunities for their family, what do you think they're doing? They're certainly not running to the US to make sure they maintain the exact same life they've been living in Mexico.
But in any case, here you are acknowledging that taking these children away they way they are is immoral and shouldn't be tolerated (separating the kids from their parents at all is wholly unnecessary no matter how it's done btw), but that is a contradiction to what you said above. I'm not trying to rag on you (... not really, lol), I'm just trying to figure out how one can claim to be happy with what Trump and his administration is doing but then often say how you're not happy about a bunch of stuff.... It just doesn't make much sense to me.
So again, what exactly has Trump done that you're happy with?

cincy and rolemodels are two different posters. 

Whoops! Sorry Cincy! I thought you were the other guy! Still, your bank robber comparison seems nuts to me, and my questions about why you "don't buy it" still stand.

Well that's cause I'm nuts.  But I just mean doing something illegal to help your family still means it's illegal and there are consequences should you be caught.  It's certainly not a "get out of trouble" free card.

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

The whole “trying to better for their children” thing could apply to bank robbers too. I don’t buy it.

and still the handling of the situation by the current admin and authorities is awful and shouldn’t be tolerated. It is immoral to take the children away without providing care and security.  I can’t even imagine who thought up this plan.

Pardon? Bank robbers generally pose a serious threat to people's lives and are stealing from others. How can you make that comparison?? Not all crimes are equal.
If people are bringing their children with them through a very risky experience, why the hell else do you think they're doing it? What is it you're not buying? If they aren't bringing their kids with them across the border like that in order to try and find some better life or more opportunities for their family, what do you think they're doing? They're certainly not running to the US to make sure they maintain the exact same life they've been living in Mexico.
But in any case, here you are acknowledging that taking these children away they way they are is immoral and shouldn't be tolerated (separating the kids from their parents at all is wholly unnecessary no matter how it's done btw), but that is a contradiction to what you said above. I'm not trying to rag on you (... not really, lol), I'm just trying to figure out how one can claim to be happy with what Trump and his administration is doing but then often say how you're not happy about a bunch of stuff.... It just doesn't make much sense to me.
So again, what exactly has Trump done that you're happy with?

cincy and rolemodels are two different posters. 

Whoops! Sorry Cincy! I thought you were the other guy! Still, your bank robber comparison seems nuts to me, and my questions about why you "don't buy it" still stand.

Well that's cause I'm nuts.  But I just mean doing something illegal to help your family still means it's illegal and there are consequences should you be caught.  It's certainly not a "get out of trouble" free card.

I'm not either, but there is no reason for the consequences to be tearing children away from their parents. It's entirely unnecessary, and pretty much the ultimate in human cruelty.

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

josevolution said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I voted for him and I’m for the most part happy with what he’s done.  Not how he acts/speaks/tweets but he’s been doing a lot of the things I had hoped he would do.

That's not the question here , how do you feel about children being taken away from their parents answer that ...

If their parents broke the law entering the country illegally then they deal with the penalty.  If they’re here legally then that’s super fucked up.

Really? I'm a bit surprised to see anyone say that.... I know you're aware that their parents, while breaking the law, are doing so in an attempt to provide something better for their children. That may be wrong to you, and you may think that's a very flawed solution to their woes in Mexico (I even tend to agree with you on that)... But you really think ripping their children away from them the way they are, and then not even adequately caring for those children, isn't fucked up either way? That seems pretty fucking cold man.

The whole “trying to better for their children” thing could apply to bank robbers too. I don’t buy it.

and still the handling of the situation by the current admin and authorities is awful and shouldn’t be tolerated. It is immoral to take the children away without providing care and security.  I can’t even imagine who thought up this plan.

Pardon? Bank robbers generally pose a serious threat to people's lives and are stealing from others. How can you make that comparison?? Not all crimes are equal.
If people are bringing their children with them through a very risky experience, why the hell else do you think they're doing it? What is it you're not buying? If they aren't bringing their kids with them across the border like that in order to try and find some better life or more opportunities for their family, what do you think they're doing? They're certainly not running to the US to make sure they maintain the exact same life they've been living in Mexico.
But in any case, here you are acknowledging that taking these children away they way they are is immoral and shouldn't be tolerated (separating the kids from their parents at all is wholly unnecessary no matter how it's done btw), but that is a contradiction to what you said above. I'm not trying to rag on you (... not really, lol), I'm just trying to figure out how one can claim to be happy with what Trump and his administration is doing but then often say how you're not happy about a bunch of stuff.... It just doesn't make much sense to me.
So again, what exactly has Trump done that you're happy with?

cincy and rolemodels are two different posters. 

Whoops! Sorry Cincy! I thought you were the other guy! Still, your bank robber comparison seems nuts to me, and my questions about why you "don't buy it" still stand.

Well that's cause I'm nuts.  But I just mean doing something illegal to help your family still means it's illegal and there are consequences should you be caught.  It's certainly not a "get out of trouble" free card.

I'm not either, but there is no reason for the consequences to be tearing children away from their parents. It's entirely unnecessary, and pretty much the ultimate in human cruelty.

Yeah I thought I already made it clear that I agree with that.

PJPOWER

I say leave them with their parents and ship them on north into Canada since the US obviously does not have the means to take care of them.  Canada’s healthcare system is much more sufficient to take care of people that do not pay for it.  Train tickets cost way less.