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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    josevolution said:
    unsung said:
    Why do you turn everything into race?
    Because this issue is totally about race ...if i offended you i apologize but this is all about race that can't be denied ...
    No it's not only about race.  It certainly is for some, but not all.  You can be for revamping the immigration process while strengthening security at borders without it being about race.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    unsung said:
    Why do you turn everything into race?
    Because this issue is totally about race ...if i offended you i apologize but this is all about race that can't be denied ...
    No it's not only about race.  It certainly is for some, but not all.  You can be for revamping the immigration process while strengthening security at borders without it being about race.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=miller%20white%20house
    This is who’s behind the immigration tactics from this administration ..
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    unsung said:
    Why do you turn everything into race?
    Because this issue is totally about race ...if i offended you i apologize but this is all about race that can't be denied ...
    No it's not only about race.  It certainly is for some, but not all.  You can be for revamping the immigration process while strengthening security at borders without it being about race.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=miller%20white%20house
    This is who’s behind the immigration tactics from this administration ..
    Right...but this has been a hot topic for a long time.  far before Trump even thought about running for president.  I'm just saying there are plenty of people out there that know the system is broken and needs fixed and it's not based on race at all.  Unfortunately it seems the only way anyone got any traction towards doing something is by using race....sucks.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    unsung said:
    Why do you turn everything into race?
    Because this issue is totally about race ...if i offended you i apologize but this is all about race that can't be denied ...
    No it's not only about race.  It certainly is for some, but not all.  You can be for revamping the immigration process while strengthening security at borders without it being about race.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=miller%20white%20house
    This is who’s behind the immigration tactics from this administration ..
    Right...but this has been a hot topic for a long time.  far before Trump even thought about running for president.  I'm just saying there are plenty of people out there that know the system is broken and needs fixed and it's not based on race at all.  Unfortunately it seems the only way anyone got any traction towards doing something is by using race....sucks.
    I agree the system needs fixing but the way they went about it is just criminal ..
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Mexico finally stepping up.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/10/17/mexican-government-sends-federal-police-stop-caravan-u-s-bound-migrants/1674954002/?fbclid=IwAR2V6JlmUbfA4FShxzKsmwidgnRYnh3o_qZ4jl44p6BFVmnVw9FLvr73N1c
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,646
    unsung said:
    Mexico finally stepping up.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/10/17/mexican-government-sends-federal-police-stop-caravan-u-s-bound-migrants/1674954002/?fbclid=IwAR2V6JlmUbfA4FShxzKsmwidgnRYnh3o_qZ4jl44p6BFVmnVw9FLvr73N1c
    They paid for the wall?
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,002
    Hey so I haven't been keeping up on this, but have all the kids that were separated from their families at the border returned to their families? I know it was a clusterfuck for a while there.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Hey so I haven't been keeping up on this, but have all the kids that were separated from their families at the border returned to their families? I know it was a clusterfuck for a while there.
    Oh, no; not even close. Predictably, now they can’t find all the parents that they deported without their kids. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited October 2018
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Hey so I haven't been keeping up on this, but have all the kids that were separated from their families at the border returned to their families? I know it was a clusterfuck for a while there.
    Nope. Many of the kidnapped children have still not been returned to their parents. And they appear to be planning to just give some of the kids who still haven't been returned to American strangers - putting them up for adoption - instead of finding their real parents.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,002
    Ugh...I figured that was the case. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited October 2018
    Canada Pension Plan Increases Investments Profiting Off Trump's Migrant Detention Centres

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10/16/canada-pension-plan-trump-detention-centres_a_23562812/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000001&fbclid=IwAR3sySYXXaXR1IdBmL0fqZcV_U7NYw7ME0OjvYByWxkqnzz8KbBmx1BbRRE
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited October 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    Canada Pension Plan Increases Investments Profiting Off Trump's Migrant Detention Centres

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/10/16/canada-pension-plan-trump-detention-centres_a_23562812/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000001&fbclid=IwAR3sySYXXaXR1IdBmL0fqZcV_U7NYw7ME0OjvYByWxkqnzz8KbBmx1BbRRE
    Chances are this was simply triggered automatically using plain old numbers, but that is still uncomfortable.... I'm not sure I'm more disturbed by the migrant part specifically or generally (although am when I think about these facilities being used for the kidnapped children, which I consider a crime against humanity). I'm very much against any private prison system at all, so I'm disappointed to know that the CPP is invested in it, period, migrants or no migrants. I would very much support those in charge of the CPP portfolio (that's not the feds) figuring out how to get out of any investments in that system... easier said than done though, since I'm sure nobody wants to damage the value of the fund while they're at it. It's also a pretty fucking slippery slope. I'm sure there are plenty more seedy connections via CPP investments.

    On another note, I hope the CPP has major investments in the cannabis industry now.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Hey so I haven't been keeping up on this, but have all the kids that were separated from their families at the border returned to their families? I know it was a clusterfuck for a while there.
    I appreciate your concern but it wasn’t a clusterfuck that caused the kidnapping of children it was this administrations policy led by Andrew racist Miller that speared headed this initiative.....
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,002
    josevolution said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Hey so I haven't been keeping up on this, but have all the kids that were separated from their families at the border returned to their families? I know it was a clusterfuck for a while there.
    I appreciate your concern but it wasn’t a clusterfuck that caused the kidnapping of children it was this administrations policy led by Andrew racist Miller that speared headed this initiative.....
    The "clusterfuck" aspect that I'm referring to isn't the idea of separating the families (which was bad in it's own right), but not using proper identifiers to be able to reunite the kids with the parents afterwards. Nobody should have been deported back until the child that was with them was identified and returned to them. 
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  • The Juggler
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    unsung said:
    You aren’t offending me but illegal immigration happens from all over the world.  It just happens that a group of thousands is in the news right now.
    This guy answers the dog whistle call EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Like clock work. Amazing. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    josevolution said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Hey so I haven't been keeping up on this, but have all the kids that were separated from their families at the border returned to their families? I know it was a clusterfuck for a while there.
    I appreciate your concern but it wasn’t a clusterfuck that caused the kidnapping of children it was this administrations policy led by Andrew racist Miller that speared headed this initiative.....
    The "clusterfuck" aspect that I'm referring to isn't the idea of separating the families (which was bad in it's own right), but not using proper identifiers to be able to reunite the kids with the parents afterwards. Nobody should have been deported back until the child that was with them was identified and returned to them. 
    Yes your correct I read it wrong ..
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The Juggler said:
    unsung said:
    You aren’t offending me but illegal immigration happens from all over the world.  It just happens that a group of thousands is in the news right now.
    This guy answers the dog whistle call EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Like clock work. Amazing. 
    Impending.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    unsung said:
    The Juggler said:
    unsung said:
    You aren’t offending me but illegal immigration happens from all over the world.  It just happens that a group of thousands is in the news right now.
    This guy answers the dog whistle call EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Like clock work. Amazing. 
    Impending.
     
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    "Asylum seekers"


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,646
    unsung said:
    "Asylum seekers"


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