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Pearl Jam's No Binocular Policy

VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
edited May 2010 in The Porch
I think it was 2006 when 10c/PJ came out and said binoculars were not allowed. I found it interesting that Low-D video is ok, non-professional cameras are ok and binoculars are not ok. I never understood it. Back in 06, a few people have speculated that binoculars could be used as a weapon. But couldn't anything including cameras and the like? Back then, the response was simply "not ok" and no reason was stated. I've taken my binoculars to many other concerts. So this seems like a PJ specific thing. One question is whether that policy is still in effect. And I guess my other question is that if the no binocular policy is still in effect, why are binoculars singled out as not-ok. Really to satisfy my curiosity. I'm wondering what someone can do, or has done with binoculars, that made someone ban them. By the way, I'll respect and comply with the policy. But I think knowing why they are banned would nice. Just curious.

EDIT/UPDATE: NO-BINOCULAR POLICY HAS CHANGED AS PER 10C, "Ten Club does not have a binocular policy but the venue might. You’ll want to check with them to be sure. -10c" THANKS 10C!
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  • CantKeepMeHereCantKeepMeHere Posts: 2,177
    I hear mad crazy stuff happens at Opera's and binoculars are always the trigger
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  • VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
    It's funny, at the Hollywood Bowl, they rent binoculars. Right next to the place where they rent seat cushions. When I saw Rush at the Hollywood Bowl, I brought my own binoculars but could have rented them if I had wanted to. Cameras and recording devices were not allowed.
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  • GreenJam4482GreenJam4482 Posts: 19
    Eddie doesn't want anyone stealing signs
  • Pushin Forward BackPushin Forward Back Posts: 890
    GreenJam4482 wrote:
    Eddie doesn't want anyone stealing signs


    LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Posts: 12,553
    How about telescopes? Or the spyglass that came with my pirate costume?
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,840
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    I hear mad crazy stuff happens at Operas and binoculars are always the trigger


    :::falls out of chair laughing::::
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    when i joined here back in 06, this guy came on and was enraged that his binoculars were confiscated in santa barbara...at the time i couldn't believe someone could get so upset about nothing...4 years later that guy's complaint seems tame compared to what is being complained about nowadays :lol::lol:
  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    unlost dogs wrote:
    How about telescopes? Or the spyglass that came with my pirate costume?

    That's a costume???
  • guacamolejoeguacamolejoe Posts: 2,396
    I brought binoculars into the Tampa show in 08 :? . Won the lottery & sat in the 1st row in front of Mike :mrgreen:8-) . Didn't have my camera :oops: :evil: :cry: , thought I'd be too far away :lol: . Good thing my friend :ugeek: brought his. :mrgreen:8-)
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  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Posts: 12,553
    Dissidentman wrote:
    unlost dogs wrote:
    How about telescopes? Or the spyglass that came with my pirate costume?

    That's a costume???

    Arrg, now you'll know who I am. Hanging off the Bruins banners, waving my spyglass and shouting "Avast Ye Mateys!"

    I just hope they don't confiscate my monocle.
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  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    unlost dogs wrote:

    I just hope they don't confiscate my monocle.


    I've had mine confiscated, and let me tell you - it's NOT pleasant!
  • Cradles Broken GlassCradles Broken Glass Posts: 1,409
    It does seem silly, but I'm not going to complain. I'm just grateful they allow cameras, I don't want to bitch about the other and get the camera rule changed (besides, although it might not be over a 3X zoom on most cameras, zoom in on your camera). Also, I've did binocular's at concerts, I found them to be more cumbersome than helpful, I would eventually stop using them and just listen to the music, rather than trying to keep focus on a person a couple of hundred feet away). So, maybe it's not as bad as it sounds and as another post pointed out about some places renting them, it's probably more of a money making thing for the venues rather than a staunch PJ rule.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    Kat wrote:
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    I hear mad crazy stuff happens at Operas and binoculars are always the trigger


    :::falls out of chair laughing::::
    Kat,
    I mean this in the most respectful way, but if someone is inquiring about the purpose of a show policy, a legitimate question in my opinion, why would you opt to make this comment, and leave no reason as to why this policy is in place? It further suggests that there is either a weak, or nonexistent, purpose for this policy, and if I were the OP, I would feel like you were delivering a slap in the face - yes, I'm here, no, I won't answer you.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,549
    i think the only reason they dont allowed couse of the light,the lights hit on them,and go back on stage.the same policy we have in my work,couse glasses make problems with lights,and go back to canopys and other people working.
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  • CantKeepMeHereCantKeepMeHere Posts: 2,177
    benjs wrote:
    Kat wrote:
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    I hear mad crazy stuff happens at Operas and binoculars are always the trigger


    :::falls out of chair laughing::::
    Kat,
    I mean this in the most respectful way, but if someone is inquiring about the purpose of a show policy, a legitimate question in my opinion, why would you opt to make this comment, and leave no reason as to why this policy is in place? It further suggests that there is either a weak, or nonexistent, purpose for this policy, and if I were the OP, I would feel like you were delivering a slap in the face - yes, I'm here, no, I won't answer you.


    I am not underrating Kat's position/authority at 10C but she doesn't know all the answers to all these questions - an analogy would be a parent to a child - "Mommy why doesn't Pearl Jam allow us to bring binoculars at their shows?" "Well son I don't know, other people make the rules and it is mommy's job to help everyone follow them."

    Besides isn't it great to hear from the Mods just being posters like the rest of us and not always have to be the authority all the time
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    Kat wrote:
    :::falls out of chair laughing::::
    Kat,
    I mean this in the most respectful way, but if someone is inquiring about the purpose of a show policy, a legitimate question in my opinion, why would you opt to make this comment, and leave no reason as to why this policy is in place? It further suggests that there is either a weak, or nonexistent, purpose for this policy, and if I were the OP, I would feel like you were delivering a slap in the face - yes, I'm here, no, I won't answer you.


    I am not underrating Kat's position/authority at 10C but she doesn't know all the answers to all these questions - an analogy would be a parent to a child - "Mommy why doesn't Pearl Jam allow us to bring binoculars at their shows?" "Well son I don't know, other people make the rules and it is mommy's job to help everyone follow them."

    Besides isn't it great to hear from the Mods just being posters like the rest of us and not always have to be the authority all the time
    I can appreciate that she perhaps doesn't know the answer, but stating that would be nice.

    That said, I do agree with you that it's nice to hear from Kat just acting like the rest of us. Minus the bitching :lol:
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,840
    benjs wrote:
    Kat wrote:
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    I hear mad crazy stuff happens at Operas and binoculars are always the trigger


    :::falls out of chair laughing::::
    Kat,
    I mean this in the most respectful way, but if someone is inquiring about the purpose of a show policy, a legitimate question in my opinion, why would you opt to make this comment, and leave no reason as to why this policy is in place? It further suggests that there is either a weak, or nonexistent, purpose for this policy, and if I were the OP, I would feel like you were delivering a slap in the face - yes, I'm here, no, I won't answer you.

    I apologize and will refrain from posting. I do not know the answer to the OP. Please contact <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with the question.

    On to other work. Have a nice weekend.
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  • joeybucketsjoeybuckets Posts: 511
    GreenJam4482 wrote:
    Eddie doesn't want anyone stealing signs

    classic. :lol:
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    Kat wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    Kat,
    I mean this in the most respectful way, but if someone is inquiring about the purpose of a show policy, a legitimate question in my opinion, why would you opt to make this comment, and leave no reason as to why this policy is in place? It further suggests that there is either a weak, or nonexistent, purpose for this policy, and if I were the OP, I would feel like you were delivering a slap in the face - yes, I'm here, no, I won't answer you.

    I apologize and will refrain from posting. I do not know the answer to the OP. Please contact <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with the question.

    On to other work. Have a nice weekend.
    PM sent
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  • theboxerorthebagtheboxerorthebag Posts: 1,774
    I apologize and will refrain from posting. I do not know the answer to the OP. Please contact <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with the question.

    On to other work. Have a nice weekend.


    We love your posts Kat. Don't stop!!!
  • VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
    It's an honor to have Kat post in one of my threads; a post which isn't a reference to the posting guidelines or an admonishment of someone's behavior. She's been about the best Mod I've encountered and I've been here since after Binaural on that old index-looking message pit where people were requesting a rarities album for 2 years. A real sweetheart. So a little fun at my expense is fine. And I appreciate the reference to the 10c info link. I'll try that and report back here. ("You have the right to free speech, unless of course you're dumb enough to actually try it")
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  • CantKeepMeHereCantKeepMeHere Posts: 2,177
    benjs wrote:
    Kat wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    Kat,
    I mean this in the most respectful way, but if someone is inquiring about the purpose of a show policy, a legitimate question in my opinion, why would you opt to make this comment, and leave no reason as to why this policy is in place? It further suggests that there is either a weak, or nonexistent, purpose for this policy, and if I were the OP, I would feel like you were delivering a slap in the face - yes, I'm here, no, I won't answer you.

    I apologize and will refrain from posting. I do not know the answer to the OP. Please contact <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with the question.

    On to other work. Have a nice weekend.
    PM sent


    Benjs I know that the above was not your intent and we seem to share the same view on the lovely Kat posting and I know your "PM sent" means "nice note about Kat's awesomeness sent" but I must ask Kat perhaps you "read" these post a little to fast and do not always get them 100% - trust me I am perfect and am qualified to give out this type of critique - NOT - Ben didn't mean it the way you seem to have taken it - please keep posting your funny comments - It's like having Santa Clause write back (and tell you your letter was funny but no you don't know when the elves will be finished with the holiday single!)
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,549
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    "read" these post a little to fast and do not always get them 100%
    are u talking about Kat or me?? :lol::lol:

    btw if anyone take an answer from 10c the reason of this policy please share
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    Kat wrote:
    I apologize and will refrain from posting. I do not know the answer to the OP. Please contact <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> with the question.

    On to other work. Have a nice weekend.
    PM sent


    Benjs I know that the above was not your intent and we seem to share the same view on the lovely Kat posting and I know your "PM sent" means "nice note about Kat's awesomeness sent" but I must ask Kat perhaps you "read" these post a little to fast and do not always get them 100% - trust me I am perfect and am qualified to give out this type of critique - NOT - Ben didn't mean it the way you seem to have taken it - please keep posting your funny comments - It's like having Santa Clause write back (and tell you your letter was funny but no you don't know when the elves will be finished with the holiday single!)
    Cheers
    Thanks for the support, CantKeepMeHere, but my PM was not so much a nice note about Kat's awesomeness, rather an attempt to explain to her that I did not mean to offend, and an explanation that what I tried to communicate to her was likely misconstrued. I don't feel what I wrote was wrong, but reading it over, I realize my tone was possibly inappropriate, and very easily could have lent itself to being misinterpreted.
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  • VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    "read" these post a little to fast and do not always get them 100%
    are u talking about Kat or me?? :lol::lol:

    btw if anyone take an answer from 10c the reason of this policy please share

    I sent a benign worded inquiry to the link Kat shared, let's see what comes in return.

    I have a real nice pair of binoculars which are made for marine use. I'm an avid boater. These have built-in stability, large cups that fit over your eyes, incredible light absorbtion, wide view. They're amazing. Weren't cheap but when on the water, out in the ocean, they're great to have. The secondary benefit being concerts. They really pull you in by 50 rows. Given my 10c number being 251,xxx, it would have been great to have them. If I won the lottery, I'd just run them back to the car.
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  • CardinalCardinal Posts: 479
    I used binoculars at Buffalo 2010. No issues. They turn into brass knuckles if I chant backpack backpack at them
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    Veddernarian wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    "read" these post a little to fast and do not always get them 100%
    are u talking about Kat or me?? :lol::lol:

    btw if anyone take an answer from 10c the reason of this policy please share

    I sent a benign worded inquiry to the link Kat shared, let's see what comes in return.

    I have a real nice pair of binoculars which are made for marine use. I'm an avid boater. These have built-in stability, large cups that fit over your eyes, incredible light absorbtion, wide view. They're amazing. Weren't cheap but when on the water, out in the ocean, they're great to have. The secondary benefit being concerts. They really pull you in by 50 rows. Given my 10c number being 251,xxx, it would have been great to have them. If I won the lottery, I'd just run them back to the car.
    I'm interested to see how they respond too... my dad owns some photography stores, so we've got a great pair of Canon binoculars with image stabilization as well, and would love to bring them to MSG.
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  • MB50486MB50486 Posts: 243
    Great now you've gone and pissed Kat off. Probably not a good idea. Kat we still love you. Please keep posting with the rest of us shmucks
  • NeilJamNeilJam Posts: 1,191
    Cradles Broken Glass wrote:
    It does seem silly, but I'm not going to complain. I'm just grateful they allow cameras, I don't want to bitch about the other and get the camera rule changed (besides, although it might not be over a 3X zoom on most cameras, zoom in on your camera). Also, I've did binocular's at concerts, I found them to be more cumbersome than helpful, I would eventually stop using them and just listen to the music, rather than trying to keep focus on a person a couple of hundred feet away). So, maybe it's not as bad as it sounds and as another post pointed out about some places renting them, it's probably more of a money making thing for the venues rather than a staunch PJ rule.


    The camera rule has changed so they are no longer allowed. This is a new band policy, not a standard rule for the venues I went to this year (Columbus and Cleveland). So now they do not allow video or still pictures.

    Unless you have an Iphone, then you can take pictures and record whatever you want.
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    NeilJam wrote:
    Cradles Broken Glass wrote:
    It does seem silly, but I'm not going to complain. I'm just grateful they allow cameras, I don't want to bitch about the other and get the camera rule changed (besides, although it might not be over a 3X zoom on most cameras, zoom in on your camera). Also, I've did binocular's at concerts, I found them to be more cumbersome than helpful, I would eventually stop using them and just listen to the music, rather than trying to keep focus on a person a couple of hundred feet away). So, maybe it's not as bad as it sounds and as another post pointed out about some places renting them, it's probably more of a money making thing for the venues rather than a staunch PJ rule.


    The camera rule has changed so they are no longer allowed. This is a new band policy, not a standard rule for the venues I went to this year (Columbus and Cleveland). So now they do not allow video or still pictures.

    Unless you have an Iphone, then you can take pictures and record whatever you want.
    I think you're wrong about that. http://www.pearljam.com/ten-club/tickets
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