If you can hear the person next to you clearly then the crowd isn't loud enough lol
Eddie did a call-and-response bit during the Daughter tag at Jazz Fest, but the crowd kept singing it back to him even after he'd finished and was winding it down - so he came back to the mic and kept the tag going for a while. It was pretty awesome.
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
Last night in Cleveland I sang along with every word of every song fairly loudly, my uncle and dad said they didn't mind but there is a time to stop and just listen, but I don't see why because you can still hear them over your own voice and it's fun.
I'll sing along until the day I die. Every word to every fucking song. In fact, I can't understand how people can not sing along.
Last night in Cleveland I sang along with every word of every song fairly loudly, my uncle and dad said they didn't mind but there is a time to stop and just listen, but I don't see why because you can still hear them over your own voice and it's fun.
I'll sing along until the day I die. Every word to every fucking song. In fact, I can't understand how people can not sing along.
ditto. and we aint the only ones.....
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Last night in Cleveland I sang along with every word of every song fairly loudly, my uncle and dad said they didn't mind but there is a time to stop and just listen, but I don't see why because you can still hear them over your own voice and it's fun.
I'll sing along until the day I die. Every word to every fucking song. In fact, I can't understand how people can not sing along.
It's actually really funny you mention this because something similar happened to me at Cleveland. I took my girlfriend to her first show, tried to prepare her for the die-hards the best to my ability. We were in section 125 which ROCKED. Everyone sang every word. Only on the slow songs did people sing to themselves (didn't scream). She mentioned after the show how she has never been to a show where everyone sang to the point where you could hardly hear the singer. She wasn't mad...she just never experienced that before. I replied that when a band has such raw energy and emotion in their music...like Pearl Jam, the completely involuntary response is to sing with all of your heart and soul.
Yeah, and if anybody tells me to stop singing, I'd tell them to kiss my ass. go get security and see if they will throw me out for singing. some of u people are crazy and need to lighten up.
It is as bad as second hand smoke, farting in an elevator full of people, standing in a doorway where people are trying to get through, coughing on a buffet, or partying too loud after midnight knowing you're disturbing your neighbors. It's about consideration for the people around you and making the experience good for everybody. I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. At LA3, there was a 300-400 lb Baby Huey looking individual who moaned like a grizzley bear when he sang. During "Just Breathe", he sang, moaned, it loud to the point that he was as loud as Ed. I was unable to listen to Just Breathe for about 6 months after the show because that walrus standing next to me popped into my head, and that noise. I'm sure he enjoyed himself but ruined it for me and possibly others. I've seen others sing and keep it reasonably well to themselves, not ruining it for others. They used better judgment.
then stay home. IT IS A ROCK CONCERT, A ROCK CONCERT. IF YOU WANT QUIET GO TO THE FUCKING OPERA. A FUCKING ROCK CONCERT
i am not responsible for my actions, which include jumping up and down and bumping into people on occasion (sorry, it happens). it for goddamned sure includes rocking out at the top of my lungs! after leaving a show i am hoarse for at least a week. granted, this doesn't include slower songs like just breathe, haha. but i have never had anyone turn around and tell me i was too loud. if anything most people around me are either amused, or don't notice because they are in as much of a zone as i am. without that kind of energy the shows would not be the same!
It is as bad as second hand smoke, farting in an elevator full of people, standing in a doorway where people are trying to get through, coughing on a buffet, or partying too loud after midnight knowing you're disturbing your neighbors. It's about consideration for the people around you and making the experience good for everybody. I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. At LA3, there was a 300-400 lb Baby Huey looking individual who moaned like a grizzley bear when he sang. During "Just Breathe", he sang, moaned, it loud to the point that he was as loud as Ed. I was unable to listen to Just Breathe for about 6 months after the show because that walrus standing next to me popped into my head, and that noise. I'm sure he enjoyed himself but ruined it for me and possibly others. I've seen others sing and keep it reasonably well to themselves, not ruining it for others. They used better judgment.
then stay home. IT IS A ROCK CONCERT, A ROCK CONCERT. IF YOU WANT QUIET GO TO THE FUCKING OPERA. A FUCKING ROCK CONCERT
What would you know about an opera? Let me quote myself, "I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. ". Is this unreasonable? I'm not saying not to sing. I am saying people should be considerate of others and a reasonable person with halfway decent judgment should know the line where if you cross over you're irritating others and wrecking their experience. If you're lucky enough to be surrounded by people who see it your way, all the best to you and congratulations. I have my limits. If someone sings so loud that it drowns out the band, at the levels their sound system is cranked up, then I'm pissed. I don't think it is unreasonable to be pissed in those circumstances. Maybe I'm uptight and most people would be happy until someone pee'd on them. I don't know what to say.
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
It is as bad as second hand smoke, farting in an elevator full of people, standing in a doorway where people are trying to get through, coughing on a buffet, or partying too loud after midnight knowing you're disturbing your neighbors. It's about consideration for the people around you and making the experience good for everybody. I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. At LA3, there was a 300-400 lb Baby Huey looking individual who moaned like a grizzley bear when he sang. During "Just Breathe", he sang, moaned, it loud to the point that he was as loud as Ed. I was unable to listen to Just Breathe for about 6 months after the show because that walrus standing next to me popped into my head, and that noise. I'm sure he enjoyed himself but ruined it for me and possibly others. I've seen others sing and keep it reasonably well to themselves, not ruining it for others. They used better judgment.
then stay home. IT IS A ROCK CONCERT, A ROCK CONCERT. IF YOU WANT QUIET GO TO THE FUCKING OPERA. A FUCKING ROCK CONCERT
What would you know about an opera? Let me quote myself, "I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. ". Is this unreasonable? I'm not saying not to sing. I am saying people should be considerate of others and a reasonable person with halfway decent judgment should know the line where if you cross over you're irritating others and wrecking their experience. If you're lucky enough to be surrounded by people who see it your way, all the best to you and congratulations. I have my limits. If someone sings so loud that it drowns out the band, at the levels their sound system is cranked up, then I'm pissed. I don't think it is unreasonable to be pissed in those circumstances. Maybe I'm uptight and most people would be happy until someone pee'd on them. I don't know what to say.
I wouldn't know anything about an opera.....cause I like fucking rock concerts
there's so many OTHER things that can ruin a concert:
getting pissed on
getting vomited on
getting beer dumped on you
drunk people bumping to you again and again
getting stuck in traffic and missing pj
security throwing you out because you won't give up on getting a pic
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It is as bad as second hand smoke, farting in an elevator full of people, standing in a doorway where people are trying to get through, coughing on a buffet, or partying too loud after midnight knowing you're disturbing your neighbors. It's about consideration for the people around you and making the experience good for everybody. I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. At LA3, there was a 300-400 lb Baby Huey looking individual who moaned like a grizzley bear when he sang. During "Just Breathe", he sang, moaned, it loud to the point that he was as loud as Ed. I was unable to listen to Just Breathe for about 6 months after the show because that walrus standing next to me popped into my head, and that noise. I'm sure he enjoyed himself but ruined it for me and possibly others. I've seen others sing and keep it reasonably well to themselves, not ruining it for others. They used better judgment.
It is as bad as second hand smoke, farting in an elevator full of people, standing in a doorway where people are trying to get through, coughing on a buffet, or partying too loud after midnight knowing you're disturbing your neighbors. It's about consideration for the people around you and making the experience good for everybody. I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. At LA3, there was a 300-400 lb Baby Huey looking individual who moaned like a grizzley bear when he sang. During "Just Breathe", he sang, moaned, it loud to the point that he was as loud as Ed. I was unable to listen to Just Breathe for about 6 months after the show because that walrus standing next to me popped into my head, and that noise. I'm sure he enjoyed himself but ruined it for me and possibly others. I've seen others sing and keep it reasonably well to themselves, not ruining it for others. They used better judgment.
then stay home. IT IS A ROCK CONCERT, A ROCK CONCERT. IF YOU WANT QUIET GO TO THE FUCKING OPERA. A FUCKING ROCK CONCERT
What would you know about an opera? Let me quote myself, "I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. ". Is this unreasonable? I'm not saying not to sing. I am saying people should be considerate of others and a reasonable person with halfway decent judgment should know the line where if you cross over you're irritating others and wrecking their experience. If you're lucky enough to be surrounded by people who see it your way, all the best to you and congratulations. I have my limits. If someone sings so loud that it drowns out the band, at the levels their sound system is cranked up, then I'm pissed. I don't think it is unreasonable to be pissed in those circumstances. Maybe I'm uptight and most people would be happy until someone pee'd on them. I don't know what to say.
Seriously... how loud do you have to be to drown out the band?
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
Seriously... how loud do you have to be to drown out the band?
Exactly my point. This guy managed to do exactly that. I think it took quite a lot of effort. I'm not sure his throat felt so well the next day. So to your point, and a couple of others, you can actually sing quite a bit without even being noticed by others. I think that if one crosses the line where it drowns out the band, or impacts other people's experiences, they have lost courtesy and respect for others and put one's own pleasure at the number 1 position regardless of others. My main point is not to stop singing, it is to know when you're wrecking other people's experiences.
Unrelated but sort of the same thing. I went hiking up a 11,500 foot mountain in Southern California. It is in a designated wilderness area. At the summit, you can imagine the clean air, expansive views. A small group of people was at the summit taking it all in. Someone arrived at the summit and lit a cigar. The smoke was in everybody's face. I don't mind a good cigar. But I think common judgment would say that these people didn't hike 8 miles to a mountaintop in a wilderness to smell a cigar. If nobody was there, it might be different. That cigar is probably the first memory of that trip. Is that right? My first memory of LA3 was that Walrus drowning out Ed. My first memory should be the great show, Cornell/Cantrell appearances, but it is not.
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
It is as bad as second hand smoke, farting in an elevator full of people, standing in a doorway where people are trying to get through, coughing on a buffet, or partying too loud after midnight knowing you're disturbing your neighbors. It's about consideration for the people around you and making the experience good for everybody. I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. At LA3, there was a 300-400 lb Baby Huey looking individual who moaned like a grizzley bear when he sang. During "Just Breathe", he sang, moaned, it loud to the point that he was as loud as Ed. I was unable to listen to Just Breathe for about 6 months after the show because that walrus standing next to me popped into my head, and that noise. I'm sure he enjoyed himself but ruined it for me and possibly others. I've seen others sing and keep it reasonably well to themselves, not ruining it for others. They used better judgment.
then stay home. IT IS A ROCK CONCERT, A ROCK CONCERT. IF YOU WANT QUIET GO TO THE FUCKING OPERA. A FUCKING ROCK CONCERT
I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. ". Is this unreasonable? I am saying people should be considerate of others and a reasonable person with halfway decent judgment should know the line where if you cross over you're irritating others and wrecking their experience. If you're lucky enough to be surrounded by people who see it your way, all the best to you and congratulations.
The day I go to a PJ show thinking those thoughts is the day I stop going. I'll ask myself those questions the next time I go to the library or I'm sitting in a doctors waiting room. I go to shows to rock out and if the people in front of me that paid the same price I did to see the band happen to hear me too bad for them, its a fucking rock concert!
Hmmm, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe I sang a few songs too loud. I couldn't really hear myself and heard the band just fine, but at one point my friend switched seats with me because she thought maybe I would be able to see better. ( only 5' short!) Now I'm wondering if I was singing loudly in her ear! But how can you not sing loud to Leash!! Oh well, we both had a great time and that's all that matters
Last night in Cleveland I sang along with every word of every song fairly loudly, my uncle and dad said they didn't mind but there is a time to stop and just listen, but I don't see why because you can still hear them over your own voice and it's fun.
sometimes people just can't sing and its annoying to hear right next to you especially if you are screaming. I think that was a polite way of telling you that your voice is horrible, especially at high levels.
HAHAHHA! So right now.......im there to hear the band sing. If you get caught up and jam for a line of a verse, thats fine, however, none of us are Ed, so lets let him be the pro.
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Last night in Cleveland I sang along with every word of every song fairly loudly, my uncle and dad said they didn't mind but there is a time to stop and just listen, but I don't see why because you can still hear them over your own voice and it's fun.
sometimes people just can't sing and its annoying to hear right next to you especially if you are screaming. I think that was a polite way of telling you that your voice is horrible, especially at high levels.
At Bristow, there was a guy behind me that started to loudly sing, well, awful. I had read this bunch of posts before the show, inhibitions were running low, and so I turned around and said sincerely (as I was being sincere) "I think you're singing a little out of tune". He cracked up and laughed and said "oh, I didn't know".
He was then able to get better control of his vocal chords and continued singing more in tune and thus, much less noticeable to those around.
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Eddie did a call-and-response bit during the Daughter tag at Jazz Fest, but the crowd kept singing it back to him even after he'd finished and was winding it down - so he came back to the mic and kept the tag going for a while. It was pretty awesome.
I'll sing along until the day I die. Every word to every fucking song. In fact, I can't understand how people can not sing along.
ditto. and we aint the only ones.....
Yea, during Mike's solos...
Yeah... singing along is a few degrees cooler than playing air guitar, I guess haha
Yes this is exactly what I thought
Verizon Center-Washington, DC--June 22, 2008
Lyric Opera House-Baltimore, MD--June 14, 2009(Eddie Vedder Solo)
Wachovia Spectrum-Philadelphia, PA--Oct 31, 2009
I Only Own My Mind...
Verizon Center-Washington, DC--June 22, 2008
Lyric Opera House-Baltimore, MD--June 14, 2009(Eddie Vedder Solo)
Wachovia Spectrum-Philadelphia, PA--Oct 31, 2009
I Only Own My Mind...
What would you know about an opera? Let me quote myself, "I'm not saying don't sing at all. But I think there is a certain level where it annoys others and cuts into their experience. I don't think it requires a survey of the people around you. You just have to use some judgment. ". Is this unreasonable? I'm not saying not to sing. I am saying people should be considerate of others and a reasonable person with halfway decent judgment should know the line where if you cross over you're irritating others and wrecking their experience. If you're lucky enough to be surrounded by people who see it your way, all the best to you and congratulations. I have my limits. If someone sings so loud that it drowns out the band, at the levels their sound system is cranked up, then I'm pissed. I don't think it is unreasonable to be pissed in those circumstances. Maybe I'm uptight and most people would be happy until someone pee'd on them. I don't know what to say.
Verizon Center-Washington, DC--June 22, 2008
Lyric Opera House-Baltimore, MD--June 14, 2009(Eddie Vedder Solo)
Wachovia Spectrum-Philadelphia, PA--Oct 31, 2009
I Only Own My Mind...
there's so many OTHER things that can ruin a concert:
getting pissed on
getting vomited on
getting beer dumped on you
drunk people bumping to you again and again
getting stuck in traffic and missing pj
security throwing you out because you won't give up on getting a pic
Seriously... how loud do you have to be to drown out the band?
that song popped into my head when I read thread title.
all those paperplates....
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
Exactly my point. This guy managed to do exactly that. I think it took quite a lot of effort. I'm not sure his throat felt so well the next day. So to your point, and a couple of others, you can actually sing quite a bit without even being noticed by others. I think that if one crosses the line where it drowns out the band, or impacts other people's experiences, they have lost courtesy and respect for others and put one's own pleasure at the number 1 position regardless of others. My main point is not to stop singing, it is to know when you're wrecking other people's experiences.
Unrelated but sort of the same thing. I went hiking up a 11,500 foot mountain in Southern California. It is in a designated wilderness area. At the summit, you can imagine the clean air, expansive views. A small group of people was at the summit taking it all in. Someone arrived at the summit and lit a cigar. The smoke was in everybody's face. I don't mind a good cigar. But I think common judgment would say that these people didn't hike 8 miles to a mountaintop in a wilderness to smell a cigar. If nobody was there, it might be different. That cigar is probably the first memory of that trip. Is that right? My first memory of LA3 was that Walrus drowning out Ed. My first memory should be the great show, Cornell/Cantrell appearances, but it is not.
The day I go to a PJ show thinking those thoughts is the day I stop going. I'll ask myself those questions the next time I go to the library or I'm sitting in a doctors waiting room. I go to shows to rock out and if the people in front of me that paid the same price I did to see the band happen to hear me too bad for them, its a fucking rock concert!
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in fact i've had people tell me how great it was to watch me rock out ( air guitar and all) at numerous shows
Verizon Center-Washington, DC--June 22, 2008
Lyric Opera House-Baltimore, MD--June 14, 2009(Eddie Vedder Solo)
Wachovia Spectrum-Philadelphia, PA--Oct 31, 2009
I Only Own My Mind...
HAHAHHA! So right now.......im there to hear the band sing. If you get caught up and jam for a line of a verse, thats fine, however, none of us are Ed, so lets let him be the pro.
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At Bristow, there was a guy behind me that started to loudly sing, well, awful. I had read this bunch of posts before the show, inhibitions were running low, and so I turned around and said sincerely (as I was being sincere) "I think you're singing a little out of tune". He cracked up and laughed and said "oh, I didn't know".
He was then able to get better control of his vocal chords and continued singing more in tune and thus, much less noticeable to those around.
Thank you Pearl Jam Forum for making the world a better-sounding, peaceful, happy--and jolly--place