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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    pjhawks said:
    Yankees fans….retiring Paul O’Neil’s number? Really? Thoughts?
    Who's next? Chuck Knoblauch?
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,852
    Yeah, O'Neil is a pretty weak candidate for that kind of status.

    Give him a bobblehead night.  Maybe put him in the team Hall of Fame even.  But I dont think anyone can look at the Yankees and get upset if they see anyone wearing 21 (if that was his number, lol).  
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Yeah, dumb 
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Matsui, Teixeira, hell, even Arod. But O’Neill is a head-scratcher. 
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,435
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Yeah, dumb 
    it's a cash grab like virtually anything else in baseball. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,629
    It's basically been retired by the fans the last 21 years. They gave the number to Latroy Hawkins. And the fans booed him. No one's worn the number since.
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  • igotid88
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    Matsui, Teixeira, hell, even Arod. But O’Neill is a head-scratcher. 
    I wouldn't say head scratcher. He probably deserves it over Teixeira and Matsui. He was a big part of the Yankees getting back to their winning ways and the championships. Not that I'm saying it should be retired. But it's not like it's Alvaro Espinoza's number they're retiring 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    igotid88 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Matsui, Teixeira, hell, even Arod. But O’Neill is a head-scratcher. 
    I wouldn't say head scratcher. He probably deserves it over Teixeira and Matsui. He was a big part of the Yankees getting back to their winning ways and the championships. Not that I'm saying it should be retired. But it's not like it's Alvaro Espinoza's number they're retiring 
    It lowers the bar.

    Core 4 from that era get retired, no one else.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    edited February 2022
    They take a lot of liberties

    Posada
    Maris
    Jackson
    Bernie
    Pettitte
    O'Neill

    All probably shouldn't be retired, but they were all part of big moments/dynasties


  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,909
    So these assholes are really going to miss games it's looking like huh??  Great move for a league who's average fan is 57 years old.  Just unbelievable.  
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Indifference71 said:
    So these assholes are really going to miss games it's looking like huh??  Great move for a league who's average fan is 57 years old.  Just unbelievable.  
    I said that I'm done with them this year if they start missing games.

    The season should get a 1 year contract ext, same as before so they have all of this year for the reps to figure it out.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Cliffy6745 said:
    They take a lot of liberties

    Posada
    Maris
    Jackson
    Bernie
    Pettitte
    O'Neill

    All probably shouldn't be retired, but they were all part of big moments/dynasties


    Posada and Petite are w the Core Four.  They deserve it.

    Reggie brought them back prominence and to the WS and won back to back but missed in 81.

    Bernie I wouldn't have a problem with.  Spent his whole career there.  Fan favorite.

    Maris.  61 HR.  Big deal to have a record like that and not honor it.

    O'neill?  c'mon...

    I don't know if I agree w Rizzutto being retired.

    Fast forward the next 10 years.  Who are they retiring besides Judge?
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,852
    These are all team hall of fame players.  Not retired jersey worthy players.  That is like your team's Mt Rushmore.  Especially when dealing with a franchise with such a long a rich history like the Yankees.  The bar should be set several clicks above ONeill (or any of those other guys listed imo).

    Jeter and Rivera should be the only 2 retired jerseys from that dynasty IMO.  



     I have this same issue with the Buffalo Sabres.  In 50+ years they have had an OK history, only 6 Division titles, 2 Conference, yet have like 7 numbers retired.  The bar has been set pretty low, and who knows what happens if they ever realize a dynasty and will 'need' to retire like 6 numbers out of it (should only be Hasek and Perreault right now).
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    MayDay10 said:
    These are all team hall of fame players.  Not retired jersey worthy players.  That is like your team's Mt Rushmore.  Especially when dealing with a franchise with such a long a rich history like the Yankees.  The bar should be set several clicks above ONeill (or any of those other guys listed imo).

    Jeter and Rivera should be the only 2 retired jerseys from that dynasty IMO.  



     I have this same issue with the Buffalo Sabres.  In 50+ years they have had an OK history, only 6 Division titles, 2 Conference, yet have like 7 numbers retired.  The bar has been set pretty low, and who knows what happens if they ever realize a dynasty and will 'need' to retire like 6 numbers out of it (should only be Hasek and Perreault right now).
    Is one of them Mogilny or Turgeon?
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    They take a lot of liberties

    Posada
    Maris
    Jackson
    Bernie
    Pettitte
    O'Neill

    All probably shouldn't be retired, but they were all part of big moments/dynasties




    Fast forward the next 10 years.  Who are they retiring besides Judge?
    Torres, German, Chapman, Sanchez, Gardner and Rizzo by current metrics.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    They take a lot of liberties

    Posada
    Maris
    Jackson
    Bernie
    Pettitte
    O'Neill

    All probably shouldn't be retired, but they were all part of big moments/dynasties




    Fast forward the next 10 years.  Who are they retiring besides Judge?
    Torres, German, Chapman, Sanchez, Gardner and Rizzo by current metrics.
    LOL Chapman by current metrics.  All the others are on a decline and Rizzo might not be there long enough.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,852
    tempo_n_groove said:
    MayDay10 said:
    These are all team hall of fame players.  Not retired jersey worthy players.  That is like your team's Mt Rushmore.  Especially when dealing with a franchise with such a long a rich history like the Yankees.  The bar should be set several clicks above ONeill (or any of those other guys listed imo).

    Jeter and Rivera should be the only 2 retired jerseys from that dynasty IMO.  



     I have this same issue with the Buffalo Sabres.  In 50+ years they have had an OK history, only 6 Division titles, 2 Conference, yet have like 7 numbers retired.  The bar has been set pretty low, and who knows what happens if they ever realize a dynasty and will 'need' to retire like 6 numbers out of it (should only be Hasek and Perreault right now).
    Is one of them Mogilny or Turgeon?
    No, thankfully, but there are people who want Mogilny (as well as Ryan Miller).

    Its Tim Horton, Danny Gare, Pat LaFontaine, Dominik Hasek, Rene Robert, Gilbert Perreault, and Rick Martin
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    MayDay10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    MayDay10 said:
    These are all team hall of fame players.  Not retired jersey worthy players.  That is like your team's Mt Rushmore.  Especially when dealing with a franchise with such a long a rich history like the Yankees.  The bar should be set several clicks above ONeill (or any of those other guys listed imo).

    Jeter and Rivera should be the only 2 retired jerseys from that dynasty IMO.  



     I have this same issue with the Buffalo Sabres.  In 50+ years they have had an OK history, only 6 Division titles, 2 Conference, yet have like 7 numbers retired.  The bar has been set pretty low, and who knows what happens if they ever realize a dynasty and will 'need' to retire like 6 numbers out of it (should only be Hasek and Perreault right now).
    Is one of them Mogilny or Turgeon?
    No, thankfully, but there are people who want Mogilny (as well as Ryan Miller).

    Its Tim Horton, Danny Gare, Pat LaFontaine, Dominik Hasek, Rene Robert, Gilbert Perreault, and Rick Martin
    LaFontaine is deserving.  All three I mentioned I believed played for the Isles at one time or another, lol.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Bummer, looks like they will no Spring Training games to walk over and watch here in West Palm Beach. This is why the sport of baseball keeps waning in a distant abyss.

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    This is just unbelievably stupid of MLB. You do everything possible to make sure there isn't missed games or delayed season. Fucking morons. The NFL and NBA can have all the issues they want off the field because at least they keep the games going. MLB has off field player issues, continued controversies about rules and fair play (sign stealing, doping, juiced balls, etc.) and can't even get the contracts figured out. Worst run league of all the major sports.
    It's a hopeless situation...

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