MLB 2025 Season

tempo_n_groove

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Can we put out a list of HOFers that shouldn't be there?

I question Joe Dimaggio, yeah I'm prepared for this one.
Kirby Puckett
Ted Simmons
Ron Santo
Allan Trammel
And pretty much anyone the veterans committee puts in.

I loved Larry Walker but yeah, him too.

Harold fucking Baines.  What. The. Actual. Fuck?????

Oh definitely!

DewieCox

Yep, if it’s only one, it’s Harold Baines.

tempo_n_groove

DewieCox said:

Yep, if it’s only one, it’s Harold Baines.

Go look at his stats.  He didn't even have a "great" year during his career.

The Veterans committee also voted in Lees Smith which I agree with, Baines though?  No clue why...

HesCalledDyer

Best season of his career was '84 and he finished in a 3-way tie for 13th in MVP voting.

I mean, I look at his career and think "Man, I'd be pretty damn happy if I played and had a career like that," but in no way would I ever think I belong in the same honor as Honus Wagner or Babe Ruth.

mfc2006

DewieCox said:

Yep, if it’s only one, it’s Harold Baines.

No doubt about it.

F Me In The Brain

I've shared stats on it....we have discussed....still nice to see it pop up on the phone 
 http://espn.com/video/clip?id=29137719 via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

Eric Davis was the shit!
(For a brief time)

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

I've shared stats on it....we have discussed....still nice to see it pop up on the phone 
 http://espn.com/video/clip?id=29137719 via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

Eric Davis was the shit!
(For a brief time)

Just imagine if the game actually worked liked this.  It would still mean nothing, lol.

This is another one of those meaningless stats that people come up with.

But with all that said the whole world knew who Eric Davis was.

xavier mcdaniel

Willie Mays turns 89 today:  https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29103986/tim-kurkjian-baseball-fix-all-knew-willie-make-catch-hard-willie-mays

The Juggler

I bet we don't get a season at all this year. 

Cliffy6745

The Juggler said:

I bet we don't get a season at all this year. 

Why do you say that? Sounds like they’re moving towards a plan. Probably Not a great idea but sounds like they’re planning in playing in July 

The Juggler

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

I bet we don't get a season at all this year. 

Why do you say that? Sounds like they’re moving towards a plan. Probably Not a great idea but sounds like they’re planning in playing in July 

I know they are. I am just thinking that if the models are correct and we're gonna hit 3,000 deaths a day by June because we re-opened too quickly and we're over 100,000 deaths in total around that time....just seems illogical to put all these players and other people together in close quarters to play a game. My guess is they reconsider in a month or so. We shall see. Hope I'm wrong..

F Me In The Brain

Agree but also hope I'm wrong 

cutz

Should MLB do this ? 

 KBO demotes 5 umps to minors for 'retraining' after criticism from player

KBO demotes 5 umps to minors for 'retraining' after criticism from player

Simon Sharkey-Gotlieb

22m ago

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South Korea apparently takes umpiring very seriously.

After a player openly criticized the umpiring in a Korea Baseball Organization game, the KBO announced that the entire five-umpire crew from that game is being demoted to the minors for "retraining," according to Yoo Jee-ho of Yonhap News.

The game in question was between the Hanwha Eagles and SK Wyverns on Thursday. After their 8-4 win, Eagles outfielder Lee Yong-kyu sounded off on the umps' performance during a live postgame interview.

"Even though it's only been three games this season, a lot of players are really unhappy with the lack of consistency on ball-strike calls," Lee said. "I'd like to ask all the umpires to please be more considerate of the players. We're all very confused (with the inconsistent zone). I know the umpires are doing their best out there, but I just hope they should start seeing things from the players' perspective, too."

The KBO said that the five-man umpiring crew in question will begin working games in the Futures League - South Korea's equivalent to Triple-A - on Saturday. However, the league also asked players to stop openly criticizing officials.

Although Major League Baseball's umpires are often the subject of intense criticism from fans and players alike, the league does not punish poor performance with demotions to the minors.

The KBO began its season this week after originally delaying Opening Day due to the coronavirus pandemic. Select games from the 10-team league are being broadcast in the United States on ESPN due to MLB's ongoing COVID-19 shutdown.

xavier mcdaniel

I'd like to think this is posturing by both sides, but players are not necessarily in the wrong here, especially after agreeing to the deal in March when this fiasco first began:

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/05/10/source-there-is-going-to-be-a-war-if-owners-seek-further-player-salary-reductions/

F Me In The Brain

Owner are greedy bastards, as usual.

cutz

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1973704

BOTH players and OWNERS should be ashamed of themselves. Fighting over money, in the PUBLIC, during these times? Really?

 MLBPA won't agree to league's revenue plan, labels it a 'salary cap'

MLBPA won't agree to league's revenue plan, labels it a 'salary cap'

Simon Sharkey-Gotlieb

17h ago

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The Major League Baseball Players Association has an issue with the league's proposal to start the 2020 season.

Union officials told The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich that players won't sign off on MLB's proposal if salaries in 2020 come from 50% of revenues during the abbreviated season.

"A system that restricts player pay based on revenues is a salary cap, period," MLBPA executive director Tony Clark told Rosenthal and Drellich. "This is not the first salary cap proposal our union has received. It probably won’t be the last.

"That the league is trying to take advantage of a global health crisis to get what they’ve failed to achieve in the past - and to anonymously negotiate through the media for the last several days - suggests they know exactly how this will be received.

"None of this is beneficial to the process of finding a way for us to safely get back on the field and resume the 2020 season - which continues to be our sole focus."

Clark received support from noted super-agent Scott Boras, who told Sports Illustrated's Stephanie Apstein that he will urge the MLBPA to reject the union's proposal.

"The players I represent are unified in that they reached an agreement and they sacrificed anywhere from 30 to 40% of their salaries so that the games could amicably continue," Boras said. "The owners represented during that negotiation that they could operate without fans in the ballpark. Based on that, we reached an agreement and there will not be a renegotiation of that agreement."

However, MLB disputes the union's view that the proposal is a salary cap.

"We lose money on every single game (without fans)," a league official told Rosenthal and Drellich. "We have to propose that they take something less than they already negotiated. We thought the most persuasive way to make that proposal was to explain: 'Here's what we’re going to make in revenue and we'll split it with you, and here's how it turns into player salaries.'"

Owners ratified their proposal for a shortened 2020 season on Monday. That proposal reportedly includes a regular season of about 82 games and 30-man rosters with taxi squads for depth. It would also see television revenue split 50-50 between owners and players.

The league will officially present its proposal to the MLBPA on Tuesday.

MLB is the lone major North American sports league without some kind of salary cap.

F Me In The Brain

I support the players in this one....the owners want to have their cake and to eat it.  
I hope they get back to playing when they can make it safe but the owners crying about money being lost doesn't make me sad.  They are overwhelming long term owners and have made an absolute killing on their teams, players, and fans.  

cutz

I'm taking no sides on this one. Not during these Times.

Billionaires and Millionaires bitching about money in Public is not ideal right now.

Do the negotiations behind closed door and when, or if, they come to an agreement then announce it. 

Cliffy6745

Always on Team Players.

F Me In The Brain

cutz said:

I'm taking no sides on this one. Not during these Times.

Billionaires and Millionaires bitching about money in Public is not ideal right now.

Do the negotiations behind closed door and when, or if, they come to an agreement then announce it. 

Have you looked at how they screwed the kids with the draft changes?
If it were just billionaires and millionaires arguing, I would tend to agree more.  It is not.  
These are not the most important things to focus on, agree there, but the owners always turn the screw on everyone.  Screw them!  ✓