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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    igotid88 said:
    Beltran quits
    tbergs said:
    And Beltran is gone...
    Not a surprise.  I called this when Cora got fired, ahem, parted ways I mean.

    Who are they going to get?  Is David Wright available?

    How about Buck Showalter?  I'd like to see him coach the Mets.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    You know I am thinking more about this now and Beltran was the ONLY player mentioned in the report.  Coincidence?  He retired.  Did he become the scapegoat for the league?  The squeaky clean player that would most likely survive this in the long run became a martyr for the other players?

    The more I look at this the more I think the league did a great job at masterminding damage control.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You know I am thinking more about this now and Beltran was the ONLY player mentioned in the report.  Coincidence?  He retired.  Did he become the scapegoat for the league?  The squeaky clean player that would most likely survive this in the long run became a martyr for the other players?

    The more I look at this the more I think the league did a great job at masterminding damage control.
    Not covered by the MLBPA... that's a big deal.  Plus after the two other managers were gone, it's hard for him not to be. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    tempo_n_groove said:
    igotid88 said:
    Beltran quits
    tbergs said:
    And Beltran is gone...
    Not a surprise.  I called this when Cora got fired, ahem, parted ways I mean.

    Who are they going to get?  Is David Wright available?

    How about Buck Showalter?  I'd like to see him coach the Mets.
    I think I saw a mention of Showalter somewhere shortly after this announcement.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You know I am thinking more about this now and Beltran was the ONLY player mentioned in the report.  Coincidence?  He retired.  Did he become the scapegoat for the league?  The squeaky clean player that would most likely survive this in the long run became a martyr for the other players?

    The more I look at this the more I think the league did a great job at masterminding damage control.
    Not covered by the MLBPA... that's a big deal.  Plus after the two other managers were gone, it's hard for him not to be. 
    I get it.  I saw it coming right after Cora was gone.  

    My question was if he was a scapegoat for MLB.  Looking at what has happened I proposed the question with those facts.

    Is he a martyr?
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Fucking buzzers now? All these guys suck. No wonder their stats have been inflated the past few years. If they aren't taking away past titles, ban them from future playoffs.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. PLAYERS GOTTA GO.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    JK_Livin said:
    Fucking buzzers now? All these guys suck. No wonder their stats have been inflated the past few years. If they aren't taking away past titles, ban them from future playoffs.
    The clip of Altuve makes it pretty cut and dry.  He left the field immediately and came back on the field to celebrate too. 

    Does anybody think this is going to stop before the union hangs these guys?
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    Apparently that pic is actually confetti. There are other pics of that. The altuve shit tho!!
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,290
    Has it come out if the Astros pitchers had any idea this was going on?  
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,626
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2871769-alyssa-nakken-hired-by-giants-as-1st-full-time-female-coach-in-mlb-history
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,626
    Incarcerated Bob is behind the Beltran "niece" twitter account.
    I miss igotid88
  • Ernie Vedder
    Ernie Vedder Redlands, CA Posts: 2,269
    Cheaters 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    JK_Livin said:
    Fucking buzzers now? All these guys suck. No wonder their stats have been inflated the past few years. If they aren't taking away past titles, ban them from future playoffs.
    Unbelievable they have to be banned for at least a year.  Some of the pics on Twitter are pretty damning.  Hell even patriots fans couldn’t dismiss this as cheating
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    pjhawks said:
    JK_Livin said:
    Fucking buzzers now? All these guys suck. No wonder their stats have been inflated the past few years. If they aren't taking away past titles, ban them from future playoffs.
    Unbelievable they have to be banned for at least a year.  Some of the pics on Twitter are pretty damning.  Hell even patriots fans couldn’t dismiss this as cheating
    The pics on twitter?  You mean like the piece of confetti above?

    I saw a wrinkle in a jersey and someone thinks it  was a wire. I don't know.  I think I'll wait for the professionals to do the investigating and not someone w way too much time to look at photos for that "gotcha" moment.

    Basically I'm saying that I am not gathering my pitchforks just yet.  Even if this is true we all know they cheated already and this outrages you now compared to before?
    Image result for bregman jersey tear
    Not Beltrans niece.
    Trevor Bauer "heard" this too about the buzzers.
    https://clutchpoints.com/mlb-news-league-shoots-down-astros-buzzer-conspiracy-theories/
    No such buzzers.

    Can the witch hunt end now or y'all still looking for em?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    edited January 2020
    If they wore buzzers it obviously takes it to a whole new level 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Cliffy6745 said:
    If they wore buzzers it obviously takes it to a whole new level 
    For me, it matters not whether they were banging a gong or getting it buzzed in.  It's just a more subtle mechanism for the same 'crime'. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    mrussel1 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    If they wore buzzers it obviously takes it to a whole new level 
    For me, it matters not whether they were banging a gong or getting it buzzed in.  It's just a more subtle mechanism for the same 'crime'. 
    I agree w this.

    Taking outrage to another level over the same infraction is silly.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    If they wore buzzers it obviously takes it to a whole new level 
    For me, it matters not whether they were banging a gong or getting it buzzed in.  It's just a more subtle mechanism for the same 'crime'. 
    I agree w this.

    Taking outrage to another level over the same infraction is silly.
    I will say this... it definitely sounds worse with the buzzers, although I don't think it's actually worse.  What it is, is more effective.  You won't miss the bang because of the crowd, especially on the road.  

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