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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited March 2019
    But. It's. The. Postseason.

    You guys can "think of it" or "count it" as what you like.  It doesn't change the fact that Wild Card teams are playoff teams. Win or lose, they made the postseason.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    HesCalledDyer said:
    But. It's. The. Postseason.

    You guys can "think of it" or "count it" as what you like.  It doesn't change the fact that Wild Card teams are playoff teams. Win or lose, they made the postseason.
    Yeah, this.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    And when 6 teams per league make the playoffs in the future, further devaluing what that means, you both will still be correct. My beef is reward the teams with the best record, in a game based solely around being a marathon, should be rewarded accordingly. Making teams use up their ace in a one-game playoff is a start.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    A 3 game series would have to be 3 games with no break before the first ALDS game, for timing sake.  It would be like every other series during the year.  Also, a huuuge disadvantage.  Maybe more so? 
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Cliffy6745 said:
    A 3 game series would have to be 3 games with no break before the first ALDS game, for timing sake.  It would be like every other series during the year.  Also, a huuuge disadvantage.  Maybe more so? 
    For who? The wildcard team? And if so I'd go back to one of my original arguments - tough shit, win your division. Also, I don't know how much of a disadvantage that would be if you can rotate back to your #1 to start a LDS whereas a one game playoff takes your ace out of the equation and seems like a decent benefit for being the #1 team in the league. Almost makes up for a lack of a seven game series.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    A 3 game series would have to be 3 games with no break before the first ALDS game, for timing sake.  It would be like every other series during the year.  Also, a huuuge disadvantage.  Maybe more so? 
    For who? The wildcard team? And if so I'd go back to one of my original arguments - tough shit, win your division. Also, I don't know how much of a disadvantage that would be if you can rotate back to your #1 to start a LDS whereas a one game playoff takes your ace out of the equation and seems like a decent benefit for being the #1 team in the league. Almost makes up for a lack of a seven game series.
    Yeah, having to play a 3 game series, then not have a day off to go into the DS, seems like a huge disadvantage.  Can't imagine an ace would be available in the first couple games of the DS.

    Nothing in baseball is done in 1 game. Do a 3 game series like almost every other series.  Take a bit of the random factor out of it and still a huge advantage for the best team in the league
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited March 2019
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    A 3 game series would have to be 3 games with no break before the first ALDS game, for timing sake.  It would be like every other series during the year.  Also, a huuuge disadvantage.  Maybe more so? 
    For who? The wildcard team? And if so I'd go back to one of my original arguments - tough shit, win your division. 
    This is a very common argument but I don't agree with it. A lot of times, a wildcard from a great division can be way, way, way better than the champion of a crappy division. 2010 in the NFL is the best example. The Bucs were 10-6, and missed the playoffs because they were the third best team in their division (Falcons 13-3, Saints 11-5). The Seahawks won their division with a record of 7-9. Not only did the Bucs have a better record than Seattle, they swept Seattle's division in the regular season, and managed 10 wins playing a much tougher in-division schedule. meaning they were way better than Seattle that year. But, like you and many others feel, tough shit, win you division. 

    Same goes for this wildcard system in baseball. Last year, the Yankees won 100 games playing in a much tougher division, but Boston was better so they have to play the one-game playoff against Oakland, while the Indians cruise to the ALDS behind 91 wins in an inferior division.  

    For football, situations like in 2010 are kinda rare, though I'd love to see reseeding for the playoffs so we don't have, as we almost always do (not last year though, surprisingly) a #5 seed with a better record from a tougher division going on the road to play the #4 seed who won their crappy division with a record of 9-7. As for baseball, I would have preferred they kept it as it was with the three division champs and one wildcard....with the wildcard being treated pretty much like the division champions. 

    The funniest was when the NBA went to three divisions per conference and tried to guarantee the top three seeds for each. The only problem was that one of those three division champions would be so bad because the NBA East is such a joke. So they then changed it to all three are guaranteed playoff spots, but they'll be seeded by record. That worked for like a year before one of the Eastern Conference division champions had a losing record. Now, they've abolished that system and just seed the teams 1-8, rendering the divisions and division champions meaningless. Part of me would prefer they did that in MLB and NFL to avoid situations like 2010 in the NFL, but I like divisional rivalries and the like so I guess keep it how it is. 
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    5 game series are garbage when there is little reward for being a 100-game winner in your league. And it still wouldn't extend the playoffs beyond a month. 

    I'd rather add two games to the LDS than add two games to the wildcard series.
    You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think they’d schedule an extra week of rest into the playoffs when they add 2 games. 

    There won’t be any more 100 game winners advance just by adding 2 games. Some great teams just aren’t built for the playoffs.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    DewieCox said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    5 game series are garbage when there is little reward for being a 100-game winner in your league. And it still wouldn't extend the playoffs beyond a month. 

    I'd rather add two games to the LDS than add two games to the wildcard series.
    You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think they’d schedule an extra week of rest into the playoffs when they add 2 games. 

    There won’t be any more 100 game winners advance just by adding 2 games. Some great teams just aren’t built for the playoffs.
    Sounds like a bunch of basketball teams.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    tempo_n_groove said:
    DewieCox said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    5 game series are garbage when there is little reward for being a 100-game winner in your league. And it still wouldn't extend the playoffs beyond a month. 

    I'd rather add two games to the LDS than add two games to the wildcard series.
    You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think they’d schedule an extra week of rest into the playoffs when they add 2 games. 

    There won’t be any more 100 game winners advance just by adding 2 games. Some great teams just aren’t built for the playoffs.
    Sounds like a bunch of basketball teams.
    Exactly, and everybody says the real NBA season doesn’t start until the conference finals.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    DewieCox said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    DewieCox said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    5 game series are garbage when there is little reward for being a 100-game winner in your league. And it still wouldn't extend the playoffs beyond a month. 

    I'd rather add two games to the LDS than add two games to the wildcard series.
    You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think they’d schedule an extra week of rest into the playoffs when they add 2 games. 

    There won’t be any more 100 game winners advance just by adding 2 games. Some great teams just aren’t built for the playoffs.
    Sounds like a bunch of basketball teams.
    Exactly, and everybody says the real NBA season doesn’t start until the conference finals.
    I completely agree with this.
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,235
    I'm a no for the Wild Card best of 3.  

    Win the Division. 
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    cutz said:
    I'm a no for the Wild Card best of 3.  

    Win the Division. 
    I'm not following the logic here. What does winning the division have to do with whether the WC is 1 or 3 games, or vice versa?
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    I think the Wild Card is great as is. One game to actually earn a spot in the playoffs. 3 games would make the division series completely unwinnable. 
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    DewieCox said:
    I think the Wild Card is great as is. One game to actually earn a spot in the playoffs. 3 games would make the division series completely unwinnable. 
    It's not to earn a spot in the playoffs.  The WC is the playoffs.  Jesus Christ!
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    SWEET JESUS!!!!!!
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,217
    ESPN reporting that Mike Trout and the Angels are nearing a 12 year, $430M extension. Report stated it would be the largest professional sports contract. Trout is 27, so this deal could keep him with the Angels for the entirety of his career. 
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,193
    Well so much for him playing for the Phil’s. Hopefully the angels start winning.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    HesCalledDyer said:
    DewieCox said:
    I think the Wild Card is great as is. One game to actually earn a spot in the playoffs. 3 games would make the division series completely unwinnable. 
    It's not to earn a spot in the playoffs.  The WC is the playoffs.  Jesus Christ!



    Still doesn’t change my point. That’s the most exciting day or 2 in baseball besides opening day and if there’re a game 7. 
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Dare I say it's a reasonable contract?

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