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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    all class!

    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi ... --mlb.html

    LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. — Roy Halladay, a two-time Cy Young winner who pitched a perfect game and a postseason no-hitter for the Philadelphia Phillies in 2010, announced he is retiring Monday after signing a one-day contract with the Toronto Blue Jays. A news conference is scheduled this afternoon for Halladay, who for his career went 203-105 with a 3.38 ERA, 2,117 strikeouts, 67 complete games and 20 shutouts for the Phillies and Jays.

    His chances for the Hall of Fame probably should be described as "possible," if not likely.

    Halladay, who has suffered from shoulder injuries the past two years, had a 6.82 ERA in 13 starts for the Phillies in 2013. Able to throw fastballs only in the low 80s in his final start, Halladay sought medical solutions but was prescribed only rest. He was finishing up a three-year, $20 million deal with Philly.

    Halladay's signature moment came in the National League Division Series against the Cincinnati Reds in '10 when he pitched a no-hitter. It was his first career postseason appearance after 11 seasons with the Blue Jays. Halladay had pitched a perfect game earlier in the regular season. He won the NL Cy Young that season, also winning in '03 with the Jays.

    Reporter Shi Davidi of Sportsnet in Canada writes that all of Halladay's successes might not have happened if the Blue Jays hadn't reconstructed Halladay's physical and mental approach earlier in his career:

    His ascension to stardom was derailed by struggles so severe in 2000 and early 2001 that the Blue Jays sent him all the way down to single-A, where pitching guru Mel Queen rebuilt his delivery and mental approach to the game.

    Halladay returned midway through the 2001 season and never looked back, throwing at least 220 innings in eight of the next 10 seasons (forearm problems cut his season short in 2004 while a fractured leg ruined a brilliant 2005).
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,398
    so....a couple of managers (torre, la russa) who rode to titles on big juiced up shoulders waltz right into the HOF but the juicing players are blackballed. totally fucked up.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • FenwayFaithful
    FenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    imalive wrote:
    saltalamacchia.....penthouse to the shit house :lol:

    $21M ought to soften the shittiness of miami.
    He didn't like being benched in the playoffs for David Ross. It didn't make sense for the Sox to throw that kind of money at someone who's a liability in big games. More power to him.
    "FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
  • vant0037
    vant0037 Posts: 6,170
    Bronson Arroyo to the Twins would be a nice addition.

    Not sure what to make of the their moves so far. They probably gave an extra year to both Hughes and Nolasco than they should have, but it's also nice to see some FA moves by them, especially considering that their investment window with Mauer is quickly closing (he's already no longer a catcher).
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Even after the arbitration is over, MLB's witch hunt on arod doesn't stop. Trying to reopen the case. Methinks they are nervous
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    tanaka being posted

    $20 million ...

    gonna be huge bidding war on him ...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    polaris_x wrote:
    tanaka being posted

    $20 million ...

    gonna be huge bidding war on him ...

    I haven't see that he was posted yet but needless to say...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyadp4yKrOQ
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    tanaka being posted

    $20 million ...

    gonna be huge bidding war on him ...

    I haven't see that he was posted yet but needless to say...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyadp4yKrOQ

    mlb and npb have reached a deal ... 3 years so they might as well let him go now as they won't get more money for him ...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Sammy Sosa. Yes, I'm the real Sammy Sosa, and this is my Pinterest.

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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,398
    The Juggler wrote:
    Sammy Sosa. Yes, I'm the real Sammy Sosa, and this is my Pinterest.

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    what
    the
    fuck
    ?

    the comments are great

    "lighten up" :lol::lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    The Juggler wrote:
    Sammy Sosa. Yes, I'm the real Sammy Sosa, and this is my Pinterest.

    https://www.pinterest.com/sammysosamr60 ... pinterest/

    what
    the
    fuck
    ?

    and people say steroids aren't bad for ya ... :shock:
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,398
    obviously, I agree with this guy:

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/101 ... ame-ballot
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    imalive wrote:
    obviously, I agree with this guy:

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/101 ... ame-ballot

    Yeah, I couldn't agree more with Keri on this, aside from a couple of his 10.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    obviously, I agree with this guy:

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/101 ... ame-ballot

    Yeah, I couldn't agree more with Keri on this, aside from a couple of his 10.

    soo ... is it your guys belief that during the "steroid era" everyone was on the juice like when lance was cycling?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    polaris_x wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    obviously, I agree with this guy:

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/101 ... ame-ballot

    Yeah, I couldn't agree more with Keri on this, aside from a couple of his 10.

    soo ... is it your guys belief that during the "steroid era" everyone was on the juice like when lance was cycling?

    I have no idea how many people were on the juice and frankly, don't really care. The best players should be in.

    I don't know anything about cycling, all I know is that Armstrong is a scumbag, regardless of steroids.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,959
    polaris_x wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    obviously, I agree with this guy:

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/101 ... ame-ballot

    Yeah, I couldn't agree more with Keri on this, aside from a couple of his 10.

    soo ... is it your guys belief that during the "steroid era" everyone was on the juice like when lance was cycling?

    it's kind of hard to have a respectable Hall of Fame for baseball when the all time hits leader, all time home run leader and the pitcher with the most Cy Young awards aren't included.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    well ... i think the issue is would these people have the all time records if not for using PEDs ... and did they accomplish this vs other athletes who chose to not use PEDs ...

    for my part - the thing that bugs me most about all these guys is that they are generally assholes ... i have a particular disdain for assholes ... so, if they are being denied entry ... i don't feel too bad for them ... i know the HOF doesn't base entry on character ... but that it definitely factors in if I were to vote ...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    polaris_x wrote:
    well ... i think the issue is would these people have the all time records if not for using PEDs ... and did they accomplish this vs other athletes who chose to not use PEDs ...

    for my part - the thing that bugs me most about all these guys is that they are generally assholes ... i have a particular disdain for assholes ... so, if they are being denied entry ... i don't feel too bad for them ... i know the HOF doesn't base entry on character ... but that it definitely factors in if I were to vote ...

    Would Babe Ruth have put up the same numbers if the league were integrated?

    Would Hank Aaron have put up the numbers without Greenies? Schmidt?

    Would Gaylord Perry be in the HOF without the spitball?

    Was Ty Cobb a racist asshole?

    What about the 154 game season?

    The best players in a game shouldn't get in a Hall Of Fame because of their personality?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    pjhawks wrote:

    it's kind of hard to have a respectable Hall of Fame for baseball when the all time hits leader, all time home run leader and the pitcher with the most Cy Young awards aren't included.

    Exactly, although I fall on the wrong side of the Pete Rose argument.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Would Babe Ruth have put up the same numbers if the league were integrated?

    Would Hank Aaron have put up the numbers without Greenies? Schmidt?

    Would Gaylord Perry be in the HOF without the spitball?

    Was Ty Cobb a racist asshole?

    What about the 154 game season?

    The best players in a game shouldn't get in a Hall Of Fame because of their personality?

    i don't even know what greenies is ... :lol:

    i would say all those guys played within the context of the game at the time ... i am pretty sure taking PEDs was not considered acceptable ...

    and again - I didn't say being an asshole should prevent someone from getting in ... only that because of that - i am happy they aren't in ... by admitting them into the HOF, it basically says that it's ok to cheat and to lie and to bully and to basically disrespect the sport, it's players and the fans ... but hey - put up numbers and that's all that matters ... but that's just me ...

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