MLB 2025 Season

DewieCox

HesCalledDyer said:

Cubs wasted no time being fucking cheap asses. 

tempo_n_groove

Tatis out for 3 months w arm fracture...

DewieCox

Braves moving on from Freeman and somehow breaking even and maybe even a slight upgrade, on paper at least.

igotid88

https://twitter.com/JesseRogersESPN/status/1503445745499660294?t=4HC27NLD9mGNG8g-KuSXzQ&s=19

Jearlpam0925

Reds really getting shrewd and blowing it up. 

F Me In The Brain

They fucking kill me.  They did get a good pitcher, allegedly, but still....being a reds fan hurts, these days!

cp3iverson

tempo_n_groove said:

Tatis out for 3 months w arm fracture...

Hope SD somehow (somehow!) trades Hosmer’s contract away and lands Freeman.  

I think Freddie’s going to Toronto tho

SVRDhand13

DewieCox said:

Braves moving on from Freeman and somehow breaking even and maybe even a slight upgrade, on paper at least.

As a Braves fan, my heart is broken but I know this move makes sense for them. 

Freeman’s last at bat for Atl was a home run and his last fielding play was catching the WS clinching ball. 

markymark550

SVRDhand13 said:

DewieCox said:

Braves moving on from Freeman and somehow breaking even and maybe even a slight upgrade, on paper at least.

As a Braves fan, my heart is broken but I know this move makes sense for them. 

Freeman’s last at bat for Atl was a home run and his last fielding play was catching the WS clinching ball. 

Same here. I hate it, but I understand it.

HesCalledDyer

Gone are the days of playing for one team your entire career.  It sucks.  No one gives a shit about anything but money in this world.

tempo_n_groove

HesCalledDyer said:

Gone are the days of playing for one team your entire career.  It sucks.  No one gives a shit about anything but money in this world.

People say you wouldn't understand the position that these sports people are in.  Bullshit.  I can leave my company right now to go make more money but I am happy where I am.

MayDay10

HesCalledDyer said:

Gone are the days of playing for one team your entire career.  It sucks.  No one gives a shit about anything but money in this world.

This is what I hate most about MLB right now, with a close second the eradication of the minor leagues and competitive baseball in communities across the USA.

I really wish they tied players salaries to revenue with a minimum and maximum cap like the NHL and NFL have.  This allows teams to budget and keep their most iconic players if they want (sometimes with help via rules like the franchise tag).   Many teams are never going to be able to keep their star players past the age of 25 or 26.  

A big allure of MLB is the familiarity of big names with their teams.  Ripken/Orioles, Banks/Cubs, Aaron/Braves, Kaline/Tigers, etc.  They move team to team and it erodes their iconic status as well as the overall historical identity of the franchise.  Fred McGriff.  Great player, but nobody gives a shit about him because he played for like 6 teams.

tempo_n_groove

MayDay10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Gone are the days of playing for one team your entire career.  It sucks.  No one gives a shit about anything but money in this world.

This is what I hate most about MLB right now, with a close second the eradication of the minor leagues and competitive baseball in communities across the USA.

I really wish they tied players salaries to revenue with a minimum and maximum cap like the NHL and NFL have.  This allows teams to budget and keep their most iconic players if they want (sometimes with help via rules like the franchise tag).   Many teams are never going to be able to keep their star players past the age of 25 or 26.  

A big allure of MLB is the familiarity of big names with their teams.  Ripken/Orioles, Banks/Cubs, Aaron/Braves, Kaline/Tigers, etc.  They move team to team and it erodes their iconic status as well as the overall historical identity of the franchise.  Fred McGriff.  Great player, but nobody gives a shit about him because he played for like 6 teams.

I stopped buying player jerseys because of this.  I bought a Jose Reyes jersey when he was on the Mets.  Next year he goes to the Blue Jays...

DewieCox

Olson 8 year extension not gonna get many hometown discounts but that’s probably moot at this stage in the game. 

tbergs

tempo_n_groove said:

MayDay10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Gone are the days of playing for one team your entire career.  It sucks.  No one gives a shit about anything but money in this world.

This is what I hate most about MLB right now, with a close second the eradication of the minor leagues and competitive baseball in communities across the USA.

I really wish they tied players salaries to revenue with a minimum and maximum cap like the NHL and NFL have.  This allows teams to budget and keep their most iconic players if they want (sometimes with help via rules like the franchise tag).   Many teams are never going to be able to keep their star players past the age of 25 or 26.  

A big allure of MLB is the familiarity of big names with their teams.  Ripken/Orioles, Banks/Cubs, Aaron/Braves, Kaline/Tigers, etc.  They move team to team and it erodes their iconic status as well as the overall historical identity of the franchise.  Fred McGriff.  Great player, but nobody gives a shit about him because he played for like 6 teams.

I stopped buying player jerseys because of this.  I bought a Jose Reyes jersey when he was on the Mets.  Next year he goes to the Blue Jays...

The main problem with Baseball is that it's a really hard sport for 1 specific player to lead a team to a championship. A great pitcher still only pitches for about 20% of his team's games, and even then, only about 3/4 of those games at best. A great hitter, can get on base 40 - 50% of the time and still be the only few runs that team generates. In football, Tom Brady can dominate for years and be responsible for almost all of his teams scoring because he plays every games, the whole game. Basketball is similar, but star players do at least sit for a few minutes a game, but ultimately can dominate the whole game every second they play. Hockey strays a little more than basketball because they have different lines, but an all-star goalie can bring a team to a title with a few decent scorers and defenders.

As a Twins fan, the Joe Mauer commitment was both a boost to the fanbase and a boon because investing that much money in one guy in baseball isn't very conventional. Watching a young Johan Santana pitch was amazing, but he had nothing around him for most of his years here so what do you do? The small markets don't have the money to hold on to these guys and add AS caliber pitchers and support hitters in the middle of the line-up. We can see that even spending tons of money (cough-cough Yankees) doesn't translate to titles that often. 

tempo_n_groove

tbergs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

MayDay10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Gone are the days of playing for one team your entire career.  It sucks.  No one gives a shit about anything but money in this world.

This is what I hate most about MLB right now, with a close second the eradication of the minor leagues and competitive baseball in communities across the USA.

I really wish they tied players salaries to revenue with a minimum and maximum cap like the NHL and NFL have.  This allows teams to budget and keep their most iconic players if they want (sometimes with help via rules like the franchise tag).   Many teams are never going to be able to keep their star players past the age of 25 or 26.  

A big allure of MLB is the familiarity of big names with their teams.  Ripken/Orioles, Banks/Cubs, Aaron/Braves, Kaline/Tigers, etc.  They move team to team and it erodes their iconic status as well as the overall historical identity of the franchise.  Fred McGriff.  Great player, but nobody gives a shit about him because he played for like 6 teams.

I stopped buying player jerseys because of this.  I bought a Jose Reyes jersey when he was on the Mets.  Next year he goes to the Blue Jays...

The main problem with Baseball is that it's a really hard sport for 1 specific player to lead a team to a championship. A great pitcher still only pitches for about 20% of his team's games, and even then, only about 3/4 of those games at best. A great hitter, can get on base 40 - 50% of the time and still be the only few runs that team generates. In football, Tom Brady can dominate for years and be responsible for almost all of his teams scoring because he plays every games, the whole game. Basketball is similar, but star players do at least sit for a few minutes a game, but ultimately can dominate the whole game every second they play. Hockey strays a little more than basketball because they have different lines, but an all-star goalie can bring a team to a title with a few decent scorers and defenders.

As a Twins fan, the Joe Mauer commitment was both a boost to the fanbase and a boon because investing that much money in one guy in baseball isn't very conventional. Watching a young Johan Santana pitch was amazing, but he had nothing around him for most of his years here so what do you do? The small markets don't have the money to hold on to these guys and add AS caliber pitchers and support hitters in the middle of the line-up. We can see that even spending tons of money (cough-cough Yankees) doesn't translate to titles that often. 

Farm system.  Angels learned that their pitching sucks.  So, they went and drafted a pitcher in all 22 rds of the draft.

Yankees are famous for developing talent and trading it off too.

My Halos are holding on to Ohtani, Trout Rendon and Syndegard.  This is big time spending for them.  Let's hope it pays off and the pitchers they drafted can come up soon to cash in on these players.

igotid88

Braves have been lucky to sign players for "cheap". 

apirk72

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Gone are the days of playing for one team your entire career.  It sucks.  No one gives a shit about anything but money in this world.

People say you wouldn't understand the position that these sports people are in.  Bullshit.  I can leave my company right now to go make more money but I am happy where I am.

I get it but you chose to work for that company, they didn't draft you.  Sports loyalty only exists with fans, not players and definitely not owners.  Players are pretty much stuck on a team for a certain period of years just because they were drafted, to think a player should be loyal to a team just because they had a certain pick one year is pretty absurd.  Players don't have a choice for their best years and owners manipulate their service time to screw them out of money, especially small market teams so I find it hard to blame a player to want to explore their options.

Wobbie

F Me In The Brain said:

They fucking kill me.  They did get a good pitcher, allegedly, but still....being a reds fan hurts, these days!

It’s hurt for awhile, hasn’t it? Their owner needs to go.

tempo_n_groove

apirk72 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Gone are the days of playing for one team your entire career.  It sucks.  No one gives a shit about anything but money in this world.

People say you wouldn't understand the position that these sports people are in.  Bullshit.  I can leave my company right now to go make more money but I am happy where I am.

I get it but you chose to work for that company, they didn't draft you.  Sports loyalty only exists with fans, not players and definitely not owners.  Players are pretty much stuck on a team for a certain period of years just because they were drafted, to think a player should be loyal to a team just because they had a certain pick one year is pretty absurd.  Players don't have a choice for their best years and owners manipulate their service time to screw them out of money, especially small market teams so I find it hard to blame a player to want to explore their options.

I'll use Atlanta as an example.

They won a WS last year.  Atlanta isn't Milwaukee.  Freeman signed a contract extension of 8 years w the Braves so he was there a few years before extending so it couldn't have been all that bad.  Hell Chipper even donned him the next to carry the Braves torch...

So using him as an example is it about money or is he not happy?