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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    tbergs said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    But the reality for the rest of baseball is far more grim, for the signing of Cole isn’t a blast from the past, but an embodiment of the game’s worst fears. The Yankees are well-run, well-heeled and well-schooled in the art of reeling in the big fish. And as a result, the best pitcher in the game joins a team that will be favored to win the World Series. It happened not because of impulse or short-sighted thinking, but because a calculated process rooted in data led the Yankees to a clear conclusion.

    https://theathletic.com/1451329/2019/12/11/carig-gerrit-cole-is-a-yankee-and-now-everyone-else-must-pay-the-price/?source=shared-article
    And here I thought 9yr contracts to older players was a thing of the past.

    Yankees front office said to me "hold my beer"...

    AND to a pitcher!

    Yanks better get at least 2 WS out of this.  They only got one out of A-rod and he was the reason they did get that one.
    I'd say 2 at minimum for that insane money. 
    I'll go out on a limb and say they make 3 appearances in a world series within the first 5 years and Cole is top 5 pitcher the first 3 years, but no CY. Then he basically becomes a journeyman who can still scrounge 10 -15 wins a year with a low 4 ERA and the Yankees don't get past ALCS. By 2025, he's dead weight.
    Sounds about right
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,844
    igotid88 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    How did they convince him!?
    He was a Yankees fan growing up. They drafted him. Cashman wanted him for a while.  
    I think it had more to do with 9 Years/$324 MILL.

    No-Brainer to me. I'd pitch anywhere in the world for that money.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,357
    cutz said:
    igotid88 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    How did they convince him!?
    He was a Yankees fan growing up. They drafted him. Cashman wanted him for a while.  
    I think it had more to do with 9 Years/$324 MILL.

    No-Brainer to me. I'd pitch anywhere in the world for that money.
    "All you'd be pitching would be Jack and Shit.  And Jack just left town..."
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,444
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cutz said:
    igotid88 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    How did they convince him!?
    He was a Yankees fan growing up. They drafted him. Cashman wanted him for a while.  
    I think it had more to do with 9 Years/$324 MILL.

    No-Brainer to me. I'd pitch anywhere in the world for that money.
    "All you'd be pitching would be Jack and Shit.  And Jack just left town..."
    :lol:
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,996
    cutz said:
    igotid88 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    How did they convince him!?
    He was a Yankees fan growing up. They drafted him. Cashman wanted him for a while.  
    I think it had more to do with 9 Years/$324 MILL.

    No-Brainer to me. I'd pitch anywhere in the world for that money.
    Angels and Dodgers were offering 8/over $300 million. So he would had made more per year with either of those teams
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,357
    igotid88 said:
    cutz said:
    igotid88 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    How did they convince him!?
    He was a Yankees fan growing up. They drafted him. Cashman wanted him for a while.  
    I think it had more to do with 9 Years/$324 MILL.

    No-Brainer to me. I'd pitch anywhere in the world for that money.
    Angels and Dodgers were offering 8/over $300 million. So he would had made more per year with either of those teams
    Angels Artie Moreno will spend the money but no one stays.  The ones they do land are the wroong ones.

    Think Mo Vaughn, Albert Pujols, Josh Hamilton.

    It would have been nice to have Cole on the Halos.

    Dammitt.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    This has been an amazing offseason
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,180
    Cliffy6745 said:
    This has been an amazing offseason

    all three days of it?
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Wobbie said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    This has been an amazing offseason

    all three days of it?
    Exactly, these contracts are better at the winter meetings than in spring training 
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,180
    so, the giants picked up some bum pitcher....3-9 with a 5.72 ERA last year....apparently, he was in line for $10M if he took the reds to arbitration. $10M? WTF? :tired_face:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,844
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cutz said:
    igotid88 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    How did they convince him!?
    He was a Yankees fan growing up. They drafted him. Cashman wanted him for a while.  
    I think it had more to do with 9 Years/$324 MILL.

    No-Brainer to me. I'd pitch anywhere in the world for that money.
    "All you'd be pitching would be Jack and Shit.  And Jack just left town..."
    HAHA
  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,844
    Rendon to the Angels: 7 yr.s/ $245
  • MissPennyLaneMissPennyLane Posts: 687
    cutz said:
    Rendon to the Angels: 7 yr.s/ $245
    For reals?
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,180
    MissPennyLane said:
    cutz said:
    Rendon to the Angels: 7 yr.s/ $245
    For reals?

    yes. they’ll be better but won’t win anything.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • MissPennyLaneMissPennyLane Posts: 687
    edited December 2019
    Wobbie said:
    MissPennyLane said:
    cutz said:
    Rendon to the Angels: 7 yr.s/ $245
    For reals?

    yes. they’ll be better but won’t win anything.
    You just read my mind. Damn. I grew up an angels fan and going to angels game, not no more as I can't keep up who is on the team anymore over the past years.
  • MissPennyLaneMissPennyLane Posts: 687
    edited December 2019


    How times have changed. Lol. Sigh.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,043
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,933
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
    They have no pitching.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,043
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
    They have no pitching.
    Still has the best player in the world. Reason alone to watch if you're an Angels fan.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,180
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
    They have no pitching.
    Still has the best player in the world. Reason alone to watch if you're an Angels fan.

    like when the giants had Bonds. :wink:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,933
    Wobbie said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
    They have no pitching.
    Still has the best player in the world. Reason alone to watch if you're an Angels fan.

    like when the giants had Bonds. :wink:
    Bobby was a heck of a player, not the best in the world at the time though.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,043
    Wobbie said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
    They have no pitching.
    Still has the best player in the world. Reason alone to watch if you're an Angels fan.

    like when the giants had Bonds. :wink:
    Kinda like Bonds in the sense of, "he didn't need to be all 'roided up to be in the Hall of Fame". Yes, in that way, yes. Also, I give you a ton of credit for not living in the past, very impressive.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,180
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
    They have no pitching.
    Still has the best player in the world. Reason alone to watch if you're an Angels fan.

    like when the giants had Bonds. :wink:
    Bobby was a heck of a player, not the best in the world at the time though.

    bobby was a stud but his career was derailed by the alkyhol.

    oh, wait, I see you’re fucking with me again. both bonds were studs. bobby’s wife/barry’s mom was an olympic sprinter.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,043
    edited December 2019
    And I'll add Bonds is the greatest hitter of my lifetime.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,357
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
    They have no pitching.
    Still has the best player in the world. Reason alone to watch if you're an Angels fan.
    One of the better unknown SS in the league too in a player named Andrelton Simmons.

    Watch him boys and girls!!!

    So Halos w an aging Pujols, healthy Simmons, Trout and Rendon?

    Have a Joe Adell in the pipes along with a Jahmai Jones?

    This team will have some pop!

    Not a damn pitcher but some pop!
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,444
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
    They have no pitching.
    Still has the best player in the world. Reason alone to watch if you're an Angels fan.
    One of the better unknown SS in the league too in a player named Andrelton Simmons.

    Watch him boys and girls!!!

    So Halos w an aging Pujols, healthy Simmons, Trout and Rendon?

    Have a Joe Adell in the pipes along with a Jahmai Jones?

    This team will have some pop!

    Not a damn pitcher but some pop!
    Don't forget Shohei!
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,357
    HesCalledDyer said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Poncier said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Your team has the best player in the world. You should watch the Angels.
    They have no pitching.
    Still has the best player in the world. Reason alone to watch if you're an Angels fan.
    One of the better unknown SS in the league too in a player named Andrelton Simmons.

    Watch him boys and girls!!!

    So Halos w an aging Pujols, healthy Simmons, Trout and Rendon?

    Have a Joe Adell in the pipes along with a Jahmai Jones?

    This team will have some pop!

    Not a damn pitcher but some pop!
    Don't forget Shohei!
    If he is 100% I'll count him.  If he is 100%, dude should be raking hard too.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    And I'll add Bonds is the greatest hitter of my lifetime.
    i don't know about that. Griffey Jr.? Tony Gwynn?

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,357
    eeriepadave said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    And I'll add Bonds is the greatest hitter of my lifetime.
    i don't know about that. Griffey Jr.? Tony Gwynn?

    Greatest hitters that I've seen are Pujols 2001-2010, Barry Bonds, and Arod.

    Trout is approaching that status.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    edited December 2019
    Pujols... sweet swing, hit for real average and power, absolutely clutch
    Post edited by DewieCox on
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