MLB 2024 Off Season

igotid88 · July 2016

i don't mind a player not getting a 100% of the vote. Only if that vote goes to another worthy player. Maybe someone who's on the line like a Jack Morris or Don Mattingly for example. Both are not eligible anymore though. I think they can only get in through the veterans commitee. (I think they changed the name)

igotid88 · July 2016

If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.

Degeneratefk · July 2016

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.

There are already several steroid guys in. But they played jn,a time when,steroids were "legal."

Here are a few that I believe have done steroids. Many of these guys are players that I idolized as a kid:

Rickey Henderson
Cal RipKen Jr
Dave Winfield
Dennis Eckersly
Craig Biggie
Mike Piazza

igotid88 · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.
There are already several steroid guys in. But they played jn,a time when,steroids were "legal."

Here are a few that I believe have done steroids. Many of these guys are players that I idolized as a kid:

Rickey Henderson
Cal RipKen Jr
Dave Winfield
Dennis Eckersly
Craig Biggie
Mike Piazza

Yea but they didn't fail a test. Although Bonds and Clemens never did either.

igotid88 · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.
There are already several steroid guys in. But they played jn,a time when,steroids were "legal."

Here are a few that I believe have done steroids. Many of these guys are players that I idolized as a kid:

Rickey Henderson
Cal RipKen Jr
Dave Winfield
Dennis Eckersly
Craig Biggie
Mike Piazza

Yea but they didn't fail a test. Although Bonds and Clemens never did either.

Wobbie · July 2016

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.

fuck big sloppi.

and he will get in

Degeneratefk · July 2016

igotid88 said:

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.
There are already several steroid guys in. But they played jn,a time when,steroids were "legal."

Here are a few that I believe have done steroids. Many of these guys are players that I idolized as a kid:

Rickey Henderson
Cal RipKen Jr
Dave Winfield
Dennis Eckersly
Craig Biggie
Mike Piazza

Yea but they didn't fail a test. Although Bonds and Clemens never did either.

Ok. That's my point. The steroid era in baseball is no different the different era that led to rule changes. Like the mound being lowered in the 60same because pitching flat out dominated. Or making the spit ball illegal. Of mandating where pine tar can and can't be on a bat. It's just part of the game.

Mark McGuire never tested positive either. A ROD didn't. I know they admitted their use, but their numbers make them hall of famers. I'm even ok with the museum having a steroid era section. The guys that tested positive or admitted to use can be put in that section.

Did sosa test positive?

Wobbie · July 2016

we don't know, because he couldn't speak english that day.

but I hear ya.

Wobbie · July 2016

and besides the steroid wing, we can have the:

never played against black players wing.
pitched off a high mound wing.
never traveled further west than st. louis wing.
got to see the same pitcher all game wing.
greenies wing.

etc.

Degeneratefk · July 2016

Wobbie said:
and besides the steroid wing, we can have the:

never played against black players wing.
pitched off a high mound wing.
never traveled further west than st. louis wing.
got to see the same pitcher all game wing.
greenies wing.

etc.

The never traveled west of St Louis wing? Na. Got to see one pitcher per game wing? Na. The rest of could go along with

Amongst the Ani · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:

Wobbie said:
and besides the steroid wing, we can have the:

never played against black players wing.
pitched off a high mound wing.
never traveled further west than st. louis wing.
got to see the same pitcher all game wing.
greenies wing.

etc.
The beverage traveled west of St Louis wing? Na. Got to see one pitcher per game wing? Name. The rest of could go along with

Are you drunk?

Degeneratefk · July 2016

Amongst the Ani said:

Degeneratefk said:

Wobbie said:
and besides the steroid wing, we can have the:

never played against black players wing.
pitched off a high mound wing.
never traveled further west than st. louis wing.
got to see the same pitcher all game wing.
greenies wing.

etc.
The never traveled west of St Louis wing? Na. Got to see one pitcher per game wing? Na. The rest of could go along with
Are you drunk?

One auto corrected word that I didn't proof read.fixed

cutz · July 2016

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.

Says one reporter from NY>LOL

Rumored list to boot, that has not been made public. And it's not going to be either, so no one knows for sure(except A-Rod because he did admit to doing steroids during that time).

You know, i smoked a joint in 2003, and got real high too, but i haven't smoked since. Am i still high today?>LOL

cutz · July 2016

igotid88 said:

Degeneratefk said:

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.
There are already several steroid guys in. But they played jn,a time when,steroids were "legal."

Here are a few that I believe have done steroids. Many of these guys are players that I idolized as a kid:

Rickey Henderson
Cal RipKen Jr
Dave Winfield
Dennis Eckersly
Craig Biggie
Mike Piazza

Yea but they didn't fail a test. Although Bonds and Clemens never did either.

HAHAHA>That's because they didn't have testing during thier careers.

cutz · July 2016

Wobbie said:

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.
fuck big sloppi.

and he will get in

You wouldn't be saying that if he played for the Giants.

cutz · July 2016

Wobbie said:
and besides the steroid wing, we can have the:

never played against black players wing.
pitched off a high mound wing.
never traveled further west than st. louis wing.
got to see the same pitcher all game wing.
greenies wing.

etc.

Exactly.

An argument could be made during every era of baseball.

igotid88 · July 2016

cutz said:

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.
Says one reporter from NY>LOL

Rumored list to boot, that has not been made public. And it's not going to be either, so no one knows for sure(except A-Rod because he did admit to doing steroids during that time).

You know, i smoked a joint in 2003, and got real high too, but i haven't smoked since. Am i still high today?>LOL

You overuse LOL a lot.There was a leaked list. So if ARod didn't admit after his name was leaked. Would he be given the same treatment? I wouldn't be surprised if Ortiz was using now. But he is liked.

Wobbie · July 2016

cutz said:

Wobbie said:

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.
fuck big sloppi.

and he will get in
You wouldn't be saying that if he played for the Giants.

true!

but no way in fucking hell is he "worthy" if Bonds isn't. Because Barry, you know, actually played in the games.

Wobbie · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:

Wobbie said:
and besides the steroid wing, we can have the:

never played against black players wing.
pitched off a high mound wing.
never traveled further west than st. louis wing.
got to see the same pitcher all game wing.
greenies wing.

etc.
The never traveled west of St Louis wing? Na. Got to see one pitcher per game wing? Na. The rest of could go along with

seeing one pitcher for four or five consecutive AB's is a pretty big deal. or would you rather see KC's 7-8-9 guys?

cutz · July 2016

igotid88 said:

cutz said:

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.
Says one reporter from NY>LOL

Rumored list to boot, that has not been made public. And it's not going to be either, so no one knows for sure(except A-Rod because he did admit to doing steroids during that time).

You know, i smoked a joint in 2003, and got real high too, but i haven't smoked since. Am i still high today?>LOL
You overuse LOL a lot.There was a leaked list. So if ARod didn't admit after his name was leaked. Would he be given the same treatment? I wouldn't be surprised if Ortiz was using now. But he is liked.

I'll stick to the present topic.

Who knows if A-Rod would've been given the same treatment. As it turns out it wouldn't have mattered as he was suspended for the 2014 season.

Yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if Ortiz was using now. Though, i wouldn't be surprised if any player was using.

Degeneratefk · July 2016

Wobbie said:

Degeneratefk said:

Wobbie said:
and besides the steroid wing, we can have the:

never played against black players wing.
pitched off a high mound wing.
never traveled further west than st. louis wing.
got to see the same pitcher all game wing.
greenies wing.

etc.
The never traveled west of St Louis wing? Na. Got to see one pitcher per game wing? Na. The rest of could go along with
seeing one pitcher for four or five consecutive AB's is a pretty big deal. or would you rather see KC's 7-8-9 guys?

How is that even an argument? Middle reliever wasn't even a term used in baseball until the 70s. And how can you fault a player that played in an Era that didn't have any teams west of St Louis?

Amongst the Ani · July 2016

Wobbie said:

cutz said:

Wobbie said:

igotid88 said:
If David Ortiz gets in after failing a test. And everyone thinks he will. Then all the steroid guys should get in. Because there's no excuse.
fuck big sloppi.

and he will get in
You wouldn't be saying that if he played for the Giants.
true!

but no way in fucking hell is he "worthy" if Bonds isn't. Because Barry, you know, actually played in the games.

Barry failed the same test that was supposed to be confidential as Sloppi did. Barry was convicted only of obstruction of justice for not answering a question after the Balco scandal. That conviction was later over turned on appeal. Sloppi should not get into HOF until after Bonds does. Sloppi has had a great career, Bonds had a top 5 player ever career.