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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,142
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
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    Columbus 10
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    Vancouver 11
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    Portland 13, Spokane 13
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    Denver 22
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,828
    Sounds like some brutal Josh Hamilton news is coming out soon
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881

    Sounds like some brutal Josh Hamilton news is coming out soon

    Is he boozing it up again?
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,828
    edited February 2015

    Sounds like some brutal Josh Hamilton news is coming out soon

    Is he boozing it up again?
    No clue...maybe drugs?

  • Sounds like some brutal Josh Hamilton news is coming out soon

    Is he boozing it up again?
    No clue...maybe drugs?

    Sucks for him. I rooted like crazy for him when he burst back onto the scene with the Reds. Seeing him slim down so much showed me that he clearly was a roider and I stopped rooting for him but I hope it is not too bad, whatever this news is.

    I imagine the Angels will be relieved if they dont have to pay his contract. He stunk it up last year.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,142
    per SB Nation, 80 games for "drugs of abuse"

    don't know what that means and don't know if it's credible.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,828
    imalive said:

    per SB Nation, 80 games for "drugs of abuse"

    don't know what that means and don't know if it's credible.

    Damn. I think they get some chances in recreational drugs so this might be multiple failed tests
  • Since Hamiltons reinstatement, he was subjected to drug and alcohol tests 3 times a week. We know of at least 2 relapses. So he's already failed drug tests in the past for recreational use.

    I feel bad for the guy. Someone that is a recovering heroin addict can't have any sort of pain killers. When recovering from surgeries, it's got to be difficult to not want something to kill the pain. The guy really needs his support system in a time like this.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Hear hamilton had relapse. Believe occurred a couple months back. Involved at least cocaine. Honorably, he confessed. -- Jon Heyman
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,881
    norm said:

    Hear hamilton had relapse. Believe occurred a couple months back. Involved at least cocaine. Honorably, he confessed. -- Jon Heyman

    thank you for putting that in italics
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,142
    people who would give Hamilton coke are low-lifes.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    imalive said:

    people who would give Hamilton coke are low-lifes.

    why was he around these people to begin with?
  • norm said:

    imalive said:

    people who would give Hamilton coke are low-lifes.

    why was he around these people to begin with?
    Because he is a drug addict.
    Damn shame.
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  • Can't blame the dealer. He knew where to get it. What self respecting drug dealer is going to turn down a client like Hamilton?
  • norm said:

    imalive said:

    people who would give Hamilton coke are low-lifes.

    why was he around these people to begin with?
    Doesn't he have a minder? The Rangers hired a staff person to keep him out of trouble, not that it always worked.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • Can't blame the dealer. He knew where to get it. What self respecting drug dealer is going to turn down a client like Hamilton?

    He is a drug addict.
    It is a disease...Right?
    Nobody to blame.

    Isnt that what I am to believe? Addiction is a disease. Therefore I find it strange that he would be banned from playing baseball. You certainly are not going to ban a player for having the measles. Right?

    Yeah, I just felt like going there. Hahahahaha

    Who is to blame?


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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146

    norm said:

    imalive said:

    people who would give Hamilton coke are low-lifes.

    why was he around these people to begin with?
    Doesn't he have a minder? The Rangers hired a staff person to keep him out of trouble, not that it always worked.
    i'm not even sure what rob is talking about but if he is around "old friends" i have to wonder why and how no one in his life knew
  • His former teammates here are expressing a lot of concern for him. They always gave him a lot of support. There were some rumors that the Angels wanted to unload him and talked with the Rangers GM about sending him back and paying most of his salary, which is mind boggling if it's true. Not a good idea.

    I think there have always been more problems with him relapsing than fans realized. You never seemed to hear about it until quite a while after the fact.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • Can't blame the dealer. He knew where to get it. What self respecting drug dealer is going to turn down a client like Hamilton?

    He is a drug addict.
    It is a disease...Right?
    Nobody to blame.

    Isnt that what I am to believe? Addiction is a disease. Therefore I find it strange that he would be banned from playing baseball. You certainly are not going to ban a player for having the measles. Right?

    Yeah, I just felt like going there. Hahahahaha

    Who is to blame?


    Would your employer keep you around if you failed at least 3 drug tests? Professional sports may be the only profession that allows multiple failed drug tests without being fired. Disease or not.

    I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,142
    norm said:

    norm said:

    imalive said:

    people who would give Hamilton coke are low-lifes.

    why was he around these people to begin with?
    Doesn't he have a minder? The Rangers hired a staff person to keep him out of trouble, not that it always worked.
    i'm not even sure what rob is talking about but if he is around "old friends" i have to wonder why and how no one in his life knew
    me? "rob"? did I mentioned old friends? :confused:

    and....last 12....isn't "self respecting drug dealer" an oxymoron?

    for whoprincess:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEnszZ6G0sQ

    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Can't blame the dealer. He knew where to get it. What self respecting drug dealer is going to turn down a client like Hamilton?

    He is a drug addict.
    It is a disease...Right?
    Nobody to blame.

    Isnt that what I am to believe? Addiction is a disease. Therefore I find it strange that he would be banned from playing baseball. You certainly are not going to ban a player for having the measles. Right?

    Yeah, I just felt like going there. Hahahahaha

    Who is to blame?


    Would your employer keep you around if you failed at least 3 drug tests? Professional sports may be the only profession that allows multiple failed drug tests without being fired. Disease or not.

    I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic.
    if I fail one drug test I would probably never be able to drive a semi again. No company would touch me for 5 years minimum.

    Actually I was just curious as to what everyone's belief was as far as drug addiction being a disease.

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,142
    For Josh.....disease.

    pretty damn sure he doesn't WANT to relapse.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • imalive said:

    For Josh.....disease.

    pretty damn sure he doesn't WANT to relapse.

    if it's truly a disease then how can the guy be fired?



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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,828
    Disease or not, addiction is the most fucked up thing I have ever seen in my life.
  • How can u suspend a guy because he has a disease?
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,828
    How much control can something have over you? Josh Hamilton has something like $90 million that could very easily go down the drain if goes back, and he does. 90 fucking million fucking dollars and all you have to do is stay sober and swing a bat. I can't imagine what that feels like
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,142

    How can u suspend a guy because he has a disease?

    and that is the question.....
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Even with a disease or disability, you can be fired if you can't do your job. One difference (among many! ) between his job and yours, Speedy, is the potential to harm others if he's high at work.

    Of course he's also very well paid! I understand his contract requires him to be tested 3 times a week.

    I'm kinda with Rob, I don't think he wants to relapse.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,142

    Even with a disease or disability, you can be fired if you can't do your job. One difference (among many! ) between his job and yours, Speedy, is the potential to harm others if he's high at work.

    Of course he's also very well paid! I understand his contract requires him to be tested 3 times a week.

    I'm kinda with Rob, I don't think he wants to relapse.

    yep, gotta have a way to insure your $125M investment as well.....I would imagine the Angels have an out clause.

    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
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