Candlebox
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So Candlebox is swinging through my burb next weekend and I'm getting ramped up for it, revisiting mostly their first two albums. Each time I go back to the first one I still think it is incredibly strong. Those songs pack a wallop and are very solid track for track. Kevin Martin is a great aggressive rock singer. I saw them live several times back in the day from a pretty big arena to the small clubs. Peter Klett, the guitarist, is a pretty basic hard blues riffy kinda player with a Les Paul, and yeah, they have plenty of reverb, but it sounds great and fills the room and the CD. If you get a chance go back and listen to You, Cover Me, and Arrow. Even their big hit, Far Behind, is pretty cool looking back on it "didn't mean to treat you bad, but I did it any way" That's gold Jerry.
I've always considered the fact that they are from Seattle to be a blessing and a curse. A blessing because obviously bands from up there after the explosion were much more likely to get looked at by a major lable, radio, and MTV, but a curse because it seems they were often written off for riding the coattails of the bigger (and granted, better) Seattle bands before them. I bet that even if their 3rd or 4th albums would have been spectacular (which they weren't) that they wouldn't have even gotten a second look because they have already been written off. I hate the feeling of telling people that I like Candlebox sounds like I might as well say I like Limp Bizkit or Godsmack or something like that. Is there a perception out there that they were fakes or trendy or something? I'd like to hear not only from people that like them but also from their detractors. And if you think negative of them is it because of perception or because you've actually listened to their stuff? Just curious.
I've always considered the fact that they are from Seattle to be a blessing and a curse. A blessing because obviously bands from up there after the explosion were much more likely to get looked at by a major lable, radio, and MTV, but a curse because it seems they were often written off for riding the coattails of the bigger (and granted, better) Seattle bands before them. I bet that even if their 3rd or 4th albums would have been spectacular (which they weren't) that they wouldn't have even gotten a second look because they have already been written off. I hate the feeling of telling people that I like Candlebox sounds like I might as well say I like Limp Bizkit or Godsmack or something like that. Is there a perception out there that they were fakes or trendy or something? I'd like to hear not only from people that like them but also from their detractors. And if you think negative of them is it because of perception or because you've actually listened to their stuff? Just curious.
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It is dissapointing that Candlebox got overshadowed cause they are extremely talented and write amazing songs. I think Peter left for awhile, and came back. Scott Macado is playing drums (original drummer), although Dave Krusen did do some drum tracks on the "into the sun" album. I think Candlebox put this last record out themselves, so not sure if they are on a label or have gone independent.
In my opinion, I don't really think many people who listen to modern rock like Godsmack are going to pay attention to Candlebox. They probably know "far behind" or "you" and that's it. Candlebox is one of the bands that have the die hard fans to keep them going and the band can do what they want musically. Even though they are a true "Grunge" band especially being from Seattle, sadly the major label didn't promote their material strongly enough, and it took 10 years between the 3rd and 4rth album. So unless people introduce the bands catalog to friends or music lovers looking for obscure or new stuff, yeah they will be known for 2-3 hits to the general public. I had a friend thank me for showing him that they have more great songs than just "far behind."
If the venue they are playing at allows video cams (Yes, video cams) and/or audio taping equipment Candlebox allows their shows to be taped and traded on their website. However, if the venue does not allow it, the policy is voided for the show. That's what happened at House of Blues in Houston. Bummer. :(
If you want an early idea (spoiler) of what songs they have been playing recent setlists are on their site.
Have a great time. Please let me know about your show and how it was.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n71XbRgC_A0
okay so far behind is awesome too. maybe I should check out some of their new stuff sometime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4QL0L9fgbg
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Check these out as well for starters:
cover me, blossom, It's alright, blinders,10,000 horses, sometimes, lucy, into the sun, a stones throw away
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I would like to hear his take on the whole thing. We've heard the perspectives of the big players of the Seattle scene, like the guys from the bigger bands, but I'd like to hear his whole experience of it. He comes off like he has a lot of attitude, not sure if he has a chip on his shoulder or if he's sort of a jerk or what. I wonder if they ever had to defend themselves from people accusing them of riding coattails since they didn't break out until later.
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yes. Kevin and Sean also formed a band with the guys from LIVE minus Ed. They are called the Gracious few. From what I have heard of the album, I like it. "Crying time" is a great song, sounds very candlebox like, but that really is no surprise. My understanding, is that Kevin Martin will divide time and touring for both bands.
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From what I've heard, Candlebox are a good hard rock band worth a listen, but if you want something a bit more mellow/blues-inspired, give A Gracious Few a listen. I got to meet them at the show and they are pretty humble and cool despite the sometimes imposing vibe that Candlebox/Live may give off.
PS: Just read via Wikipedia that the guys in LIVE are planning on reuniting under the name LIVE without Ed. If this happens, Bad bad Move IMHO. Although the Gracious few do plan on releasing new material. They should just stick with GF, and embark in solo, film stuff when Kevin Martin does a Candlebox run of recording/ touring. I understand why LIVE split, and totally respect that decision under the circumstances, but LIVE without Ed?? Better off doing solo projects, and doing Gracious Few stuff. I also heard Ed K solo album, and it was ok, but GF is so much better.
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I totally agree. To me, Live IS Ed Kowalczyk (sp?). I'll have to check out Gracious Few!
what to do...
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
If you listen to that and don't rock out to at least one song... something is terribly wrong with you.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
I couldn't agree more!! I still only have it on tape, but that tape is responsible for keeping me sane throughout many a family road trip!!
Candlebox or gf...tough call especially since she's so cute and sweet!!!
+2 - I totally agree with that. One of my favorite albums from back then, never understood all the criticism they got. I know Far Behind was played to death but that's not their fault.
and it's STILL a great song. Apparently Kevin himself said that he wrote that for Andrew Wood. Puts a nice new meaning to a song I thought was just a cheesy love song.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
It's a tough one... but Candlebox doesn't sleep with me or cook amazing meals.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Candlebox won't go on until at least 9:30- 10 pm. Could your girl get on an earlier flight? Not too familiar with how airlines do standby transfers ect, if they do.
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I don't think so... she's flying in from the Caribbean so it might be a little hard given all of the transfers and layovers, I think she has two.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
I've loved Candlebox ever since a crazy girlfriend bought me their first cd in high school. I sort of forgot about them after their first couple albums, but now I am going to catch up. I'm also a huge fan of Live, so to hear this news is pretty freakin sweet. I like the band name, too. I heard that the band was not getting along with Ed and that they are broken up indefinitely. He apparently became too demanding and money hungry, apparently demanding a $200,000 lead singer bonus at a festival they did a couple years ago. The other band members are involved in a lawsuit against him.
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Yeah, let us know how the show is!
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2