recycling bins with tracking chips coming
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Im all for recycling,but this is fucking sick. :shock: What next are we giong to have computer chips in our cars so we don't drive to fast ? Regulators on our power meters because we can only keep our houses or apt at a certain temputure ? I mean hey, Why not we are already going to have to use certain kinds of light bulbs and BIO METRIC ID CARDS.
Baby steps people little baby steps.... THEN THE FEET GET BIGGER
AND BEFORE WE KNOW IT''LL BE BOOTS AND THEN BOOTS ON OUR THROATS.....
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local ... 19.htmlNew recycling bins with tracking chips coming to Alexandria
By: MARKHAM HEID
Examiner Staff Writer
May 6, 2010
(Andrew Harnik/Examiner)
Alexandria residents soon will have to pay for larger home recycling bins featuring built-in monitoring devices.
The City Council added a mandatory $9 charge to its residents' annual waste collection fee.
That cash -- roughly $180,000 collected from 19,000 residents-- will pay for new larger recycling carts equipped with computer microchips, which will allow the city to keep tabs on its bins and track resident participation in the city's recycling program.
"If you know who's participating in the programs, you can focus your education and outreach to those who are not participating," said Stacy Herring, Alexandria's recycling coordinator.
Rich Baier, Alexandria's environmental services program director, said the city will use direct mailing campaigns and public presentations to target neighborhoods -- not individuals -- that lag when it comes to recycling.
"We're just trying to get the biggest bang where we need it for the buck," Baier said. "We don't want to get into exactly what people are recycling."
The new carts will come in sizes ranging form 25 to 65 gallons, and will sport wheels and lids. While the $9 charge is mandatory, residents may keep their old 18-gallon bins if they so choose.
Councilman Frank Fannon, the lone City Council member to oppose the new recycling bins, said he was against increased government spending, not recycling.
A a glance
» Cost to Alexandria residents: Roughly $180,000, or about $9 per bin
» Bin size: Ranges from 25 to 65 gallons, replacing the old 18-gallon bins
» Time frame for implementation: August or September
» Alexandria's current recycling rate: About 29 percent
» Alexandria's target: 35 percent
» Expected recycling rate increase using new bins: At least 2 percent
Source: Alexandria Department of Transportation and Environmental Services
"I thought this was just another fee that we didn't have to pass on to the residents," he said.
Herring said the city conducted a survey among Old Town residents last May that found 60 percent wanted larger bins. She also said other jurisdictions had implemented bigger recycling bins and had seen recycling rates shoot up as a result.
"The larger the container, the more people recycle," Herring said, citing a study conducted by Eureka Recycling, a Minnesota nonprofit organization that promotes recycling.
Alexandria recently reported a 29 percent recycling rate to the state. Virginia requires most localities to recycle 25 percent of its waste, while the Environmental Protection Agency advocates a 35 percent target.
Baier said larger bins increase recycling rates because residents tend to throw their excess recyclables into regular trash cans once their recycling bins fill up.
He also said litter was a problem with the current bins, which don't have lids to prevent light materials from blowing out into area neighborhoods.
Venishka Hurdle, who coordinates recycling education programs in Arlington, said the county implemented larger, tracking-chip loaded recycling bins last year and saw the curbside recycling rate jump roughly 24 percent. The county's overall recycling rate is about 40 percent, she said.
"They've been a huge success," Hurdle said of the new bins. "Residents love them, and they recycle more materials as well."
Hurdle said Arlington County is collecting data from the bins' microchips, but had not yet used that data to improve recycling outreach and education programs.
Alexandria residents can expect to see their waste collection fees jump up in July, and likely will receive their new bins this summer.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local ... z0nG2YcifJ
Baby steps people little baby steps.... THEN THE FEET GET BIGGER
AND BEFORE WE KNOW IT''LL BE BOOTS AND THEN BOOTS ON OUR THROATS.....
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local ... 19.htmlNew recycling bins with tracking chips coming to Alexandria
By: MARKHAM HEID
Examiner Staff Writer
May 6, 2010
(Andrew Harnik/Examiner)
Alexandria residents soon will have to pay for larger home recycling bins featuring built-in monitoring devices.
The City Council added a mandatory $9 charge to its residents' annual waste collection fee.
That cash -- roughly $180,000 collected from 19,000 residents-- will pay for new larger recycling carts equipped with computer microchips, which will allow the city to keep tabs on its bins and track resident participation in the city's recycling program.
"If you know who's participating in the programs, you can focus your education and outreach to those who are not participating," said Stacy Herring, Alexandria's recycling coordinator.
Rich Baier, Alexandria's environmental services program director, said the city will use direct mailing campaigns and public presentations to target neighborhoods -- not individuals -- that lag when it comes to recycling.
"We're just trying to get the biggest bang where we need it for the buck," Baier said. "We don't want to get into exactly what people are recycling."
The new carts will come in sizes ranging form 25 to 65 gallons, and will sport wheels and lids. While the $9 charge is mandatory, residents may keep their old 18-gallon bins if they so choose.
Councilman Frank Fannon, the lone City Council member to oppose the new recycling bins, said he was against increased government spending, not recycling.
A a glance
» Cost to Alexandria residents: Roughly $180,000, or about $9 per bin
» Bin size: Ranges from 25 to 65 gallons, replacing the old 18-gallon bins
» Time frame for implementation: August or September
» Alexandria's current recycling rate: About 29 percent
» Alexandria's target: 35 percent
» Expected recycling rate increase using new bins: At least 2 percent
Source: Alexandria Department of Transportation and Environmental Services
"I thought this was just another fee that we didn't have to pass on to the residents," he said.
Herring said the city conducted a survey among Old Town residents last May that found 60 percent wanted larger bins. She also said other jurisdictions had implemented bigger recycling bins and had seen recycling rates shoot up as a result.
"The larger the container, the more people recycle," Herring said, citing a study conducted by Eureka Recycling, a Minnesota nonprofit organization that promotes recycling.
Alexandria recently reported a 29 percent recycling rate to the state. Virginia requires most localities to recycle 25 percent of its waste, while the Environmental Protection Agency advocates a 35 percent target.
Baier said larger bins increase recycling rates because residents tend to throw their excess recyclables into regular trash cans once their recycling bins fill up.
He also said litter was a problem with the current bins, which don't have lids to prevent light materials from blowing out into area neighborhoods.
Venishka Hurdle, who coordinates recycling education programs in Arlington, said the county implemented larger, tracking-chip loaded recycling bins last year and saw the curbside recycling rate jump roughly 24 percent. The county's overall recycling rate is about 40 percent, she said.
"They've been a huge success," Hurdle said of the new bins. "Residents love them, and they recycle more materials as well."
Hurdle said Arlington County is collecting data from the bins' microchips, but had not yet used that data to improve recycling outreach and education programs.
Alexandria residents can expect to see their waste collection fees jump up in July, and likely will receive their new bins this summer.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local ... z0nG2YcifJ
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That chips are put into various devices, does not mean that we are next. Nor does it mean that it's the implementation of super-big brother or something.
But I guess it's not that surprising coming from the country that actually throws a fit about tamper-proof ID-cards for its citizens...
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I'm so scared...this is terrible...just turrable, I say... :crazy:
amen, that stuff is so hard to do...you know, separating bottles and cans from garbage can be super taxing on a person...
bureaucrats once again thinking they know what they're doing
I'd be willing to bet a for-profit company lobbied those bureaucrats to install these devices...
there is plenty of blame to go around...
well yeah but i'm still holding out hope that one day we will elect people with balls...a pipe dream i know but it could happen
I'm with you, my friend... :thumbup:
Seems like there are chips in more and more things these days. I'm a whole lot less worried about someone scanning my recycling bin when they empty it than all the info they get from my phone, internet and credit cards, though. The biometric ID cards really scare me. Recycling bins, not so much
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And I for one have always thought if people don't want people others to speed, simply adjust the cars and for the vast majority of that issue will be case closed. But I guess it's people's right to break the law? ha!
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I agree. I'm all for keeping Big Brother out of our lives and all but this doesn't seem applicable to me.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
No, that's not fearmongering.... more like coo-cooness. Are Black Helicopters spraying Contrails of Doom part of the equation?
Hail, Hail!!!
"If you know who's participating in the programs, you can focus your education and outreach to those who are not participating," said Stacy Herring, Alexandria's recycling coordinator.
soundsy cunty to me
i used to use the red and blue bottles/paper buckets at my old house. then i saw they just got put in with the trash. this is dumb. didn't we alraedy have this movement 20 years ago witht he reduce reuse recycle. now being green is hip. i'm annoyed
Dude... what the hell are you talking about?? :? A town is providing its residents with better recycling opportunities, which has been proven to work and which only one council person has opposed - and that was because of costs, not microchips. Do the think the microchips are going to reprogram their brains or something? No one is even being required to participate. This is no different than any other type of monitoring of usage of services that is done all the time with all types of services. Maybe they should just do like my friend's town in England and charge us for trash removal by weight. I swear, you should just put Chicken Little as your avatar.
I don't exactly understand the microchips either, though I do see the benefit of knowing recycling rates in your communities. Maybe they just somehow provide more accurate, quantitative data. Regardless, it sounds like these bureaucrats do know what they're doing since this system has proven to work extremely well in other communities.
So let me get this straight... providing people with greater opportunities and education is "cunty" and efforts to not destroy our planet are annoying? Sometimes this board is like the Twilight Zone.
Let me refer you, please, to my thread about how our society is regressing in large part due to lack of critical thinking skills.
I don't have a big issue with this one, really. I can't see how the info can be used maliciously by anyone.
They chipped all the library books in my city a while back; that bugs me...
I don't think it's a contradiction because the difference is the fine. Plus, they are going to target communities, not individuals, for education.
What's the problem with microchipping library books? Do they get tracked by GPS or some such thing? If it's just to keep track of who has checked out what book, what's the difference between that and the old way or tracking this?
yup. pretty sure everyone knows what recycling is. do you want me to knock on your doors and tell you that you have too many lights on? or to switch to a hybrid?
Just because most people know what recycling is, doesn't mean they all have equally convenient opportunities to do it. I, for one, would love to have one of these bins at my house! And I think you've shown from your post that better education is needed. Or are you suggesting that there should never be outreach and education? I thought you liked education and outreach, anyway, since you complimented these things by referring to them as the most magnificent body part any human could hope to have.
I can recall some years ago in Palm Beach, Florida where I worked. The very exclusive PB Biltmore condo did not recycle, I would take all the plastics or newspaper I collected each day and take it back to where I lived and had it picked up there. I petitioned the building to start recycling and by the end of that first season the board implemented recycling for the next season and they have been recycling ever since.
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I hope you were this up in arms when they started putting microchips in pets... if not then this thread is just you seeking attention
chips in recycling bins.... big fucking deal, the have cameras on every corner of every street in America, if they want to know what you are doing or not doing, they don't need to bug your garbage.
pets have been microchipped for years now, in Chicago almost all no kill shelters put chips in them as protocol.
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I don't think the microchips are even meant to change anything. I think they're just meant to provide information, so the city assess whether or not things change.
right, they are there to see who isn't recycling, not to see who isn't recycling and fine them for it. Tracking them for marketing purposes isn't a problem, what I was meaning was that if they fine you for not recycling it would be a bit different. Don't really see any contradiction.
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scb - my problem with chips in general is that the information they contain is not secure. I don't know if the technology is still developing, but I have a tech-wizard friend who claims to have built, MacGyver-style, a chip-scanner out of a webcam...claims he is able to skim CC or security card info with it...the last facebook update he wrote about his progress said his range was over one meter, but he was shooting for six feet or so. I have no reason to doubt this guy - he's not a liar and has been a friend since childhood....not to mention that his peers would have called BS to his FB status updates if he were lying or exaggerating.
I have no problem with recycling info being readily available to whomever wants it...but....the potential for big brother-like warrantless information gathering is there with library books...the implications, when you consider recent history regarding terror suspects and what defines them, are a bit concerning.