God I hope not. Call me an asshole and a music snob if you want to, but I have a right to my opinion. DMB is just too much of a jam band for me, and I'm not crazy about the whole hippy mentality, etc. either. I think at the core of it to I feel like they're a band that people try and ascribe TOO MUCH meaning to. Like saying the movie Gladiator is your favorite movie because it's so inspiring to you!
you do....and I get what you're saying.
that said, the dudes in DMB are good musicians.
If I had known then what I know now...
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But what if they did? Would you stop listening to Pearl Jam? God forbid they or anybody else might have differing musical tastes than you. There are a good amount of people on this board that have very little musical tolerance, and it's rather sickening. So often, on this forum, I see people throwing out negative comments in regards to acts that aren't Pearl Jam or Pearl Jam related. This is why I never bring up what other bands I like around here because I know I'll get flamed to hell. All the music snobbery around here needs to stop.
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God I hope not. Call me an asshole and a music snob if you want to, but I have a right to my opinion. DMB is just too much of a jam band for me, and I'm not crazy about the whole hippy mentality, etc. either. I think at the core of it to I feel like they're a band that people try and ascribe TOO MUCH meaning to. Like saying the movie Gladiator is your favorite movie because it's so inspiring to you!
Yeah, I hate jam bands. Porch is so much better when Mike doesn't get to solo.
Dude, you're on the message board for a band that for the first 10 years of its existence was a rock jam band. That's part of what made those live shows back in the day legendary - you might end up with a 10-minute-long version of Alive by the time Mike was done with it. It's part of what makes live music so awesome - you get to see the musicians really let loose and show off. I'd much rather hear Pearl Jam JAM than play a three-minute-long song that's just power chords played over a 4/4 beat. I loved Mike's solos in Even Flow and Alive on Saturday - that reminded me exactly why I fell in love with the band in the first place.
And if you hate hippies, you must have a love/hate relationship with Pearl Jam. The guys are in their 40s, yet two of them still have long hair. They're a bunch of tree huggers who love the environment. They ride skateboards and surfboards. They play in a jam band that even has the word "jam" in its name. They've covered songs by Don McLean, Pink Floyd, Sly & the Family Stone, CCR, Bob Dylan, Bob Marley, John Lennon, and the Doors, among many, many, others. They're publicly anti-war. They're not exactly strangers to herbal pharmaceuticals. If I gave you that description of a band, but no name, you'd tell me it was a band filled with hippies.
And I, for one, like DMB. I don't like their middle albums very much, but Before These Crowded Streets and Big Whiskey are great. I appreciate them for the very reason someone already stated in this thread - they tour constantly, and they change their setlist up every night. Their sound has matured and changed over the years. They're all outstanding musicians.
You can say people try and ascribe TOO MUCH (nice pun, btw, even if you didn't mean it) meaning to their lyrics, but at the end of the day there are songs on Backspacer that have all the depth of a puddle. Shake Me Like A Monkey may be one step away from being a Prince song lyrically, but it's not like "Lemme Know, c'mon let's go, yeah!" is a line Dylan would've written.
So yeah, I think you're an asshole and a music snob. But you're also a Pearl Jam fan, which makes you a pretty cool asshole and music snob
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
God I hope not. Call me an asshole and a music snob if you want to, but I have a right to my opinion. DMB is just too much of a jam band for me, and I'm not crazy about the whole hippy mentality, etc. either. I think at the core of it to I feel like they're a band that people try and ascribe TOO MUCH meaning to. Like saying the movie Gladiator is your favorite movie because it's so inspiring to you!
Yeah, I hate jam bands. Porch is so much better when Mike doesn't get to solo.
Dude, you're on the message board for a band that for the first 10 years of its existence was a rock jam band. That's part of what made those live shows back in the day legendary - you might end up with a 10-minute-long version of Alive by the time Mike was done with it. It's part of what makes live music so awesome - you get to see the musicians really let loose and show off. I'd much rather hear Pearl Jam JAM than play a three-minute-long song that's just power chords played over a 4/4 beat. I loved Mike's solos in Even Flow and Alive on Saturday - that reminded me exactly why I fell in love with the band in the first place.
And if you hate hippies, you must have a love/hate relationship with Pearl Jam. The guys are in their 40s, yet two of them still have long hair. They're a bunch of tree huggers who love the environment. They ride skateboards and surfboards. They play in a jam band that even has the word "jam" in its name. They've covered songs by Don McLean, Pink Floyd, Sly & the Family Stone, CCR, Bob Dylan, Bob Marley, John Lennon, and the Doors, among many, many, others. They're publicly anti-war. They're not exactly strangers to herbal pharmaceuticals. If I gave you that description of a band, but no name, you'd tell me it was a band filled with hippies.
And I, for one, like DMB. I don't like their middle albums very much, but Before These Crowded Streets and Big Whiskey are great. I appreciate them for the very reason someone already stated in this thread - they tour constantly, and they change their setlist up every night. Their sound has matured and changed over the years. They're all outstanding musicians.
You can say people try and ascribe TOO MUCH (nice pun, btw, even if you didn't mean it) meaning to their lyrics, but at the end of the day there are songs on Backspacer that have all the depth of a puddle. Shake Me Like A Monkey may be one step away from being a Prince song lyrically, but it's not like "Lemme Know, c'mon let's go, yeah!" is a line Dylan would've written.
So yeah, I think you're an asshole and a music snob. But you're also a Pearl Jam fan, which makes you a pretty cool asshole and music snob
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Man, I should have explained why I originally asked the question.... I have a friend that went with me to jazz fest this weekend.. She is a huuuge DMB fan. DMB is to her what Pearl Jam is to me...She has DMB tattoos and has seen them literally doezens of times... Jazz fest being her first PJ show, and her not being that familiar with the music, i thought she would appreciate Eddie and the guys more if she heard them doing a DMB much better than DMB... I'm not a big Dave fan at all.. I think he talks like a retarded bobby bouche (sp?) from the waterboy. I thought I had read about them being on stage together, and would be an easy way to prove who is better.
I really don't know enough about DMB to have much of an opinion of them. I've heard quite a bit of their stuff over the years but nothing has made me think "Wow, I need to hear more of this" - it's the kind of stuff that I won't turn off if it's on the radio but I won't go out of my way to listen to it.
I was just wondering if anyone here thinks there is a DMB song that PJ could/should cover? Let's face it, PJ are pretty damn good at covers (e.g. Crazy Mary is pretty much a PJ song now) so if anyone can think of one that would sound good then it may be interesting to hear it.
Great reply who ever wrote it. I'm a music snob more than most but I don't no why Matthews gets beat up on the board so much. Pearl jam is by far my favorite band of all time and I would rather see them live more than any other band but Matthews is musician wise one of the top bands of all time especially with tim Reynolds on guitar. Pearl jam wins for there live shows. Between the set lists and the energy nothing beats a pearl jam show but anyone on here that plays an instument or just loves great musians check out some mattews stuff. Get one of their live albums. Tim Reynolds is one of the best guitarist of all time. I know most people don't care but I play guitar and am just amazed at how good he is. Anyway, I'll see you in Hartford!
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Great reply who ever wrote it. I'm a music snob more than most but I don't no why Matthews gets beat up on the board so much. Pearl jam is by far my favorite band of all time and I would rather see them live more than any other band but Matthews is musician wise one of the top bands of all time especially with tim Reynolds on guitar. Pearl jam wins for there live shows. Between the set lists and the energy nothing beats a pearl jam show but anyone on here that plays an instument or just loves great musians check out some mattews stuff. Get one of their live albums. Tim Reynolds is one of the best guitarist of all time. I know most people don't care but I play guitar and am just amazed at how good he is. Anyway, I'll see you in Hartford!
you might have to wear a disguise! :shock:
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I am constantly amazed at these so called fans of music here on these boards.
I can understand if you don't like DMB because it's not your kind of music...that's fine, but the level of stupidity and sheer ignorance about a band that in many ways is (from a musical standpoint) technically superior to Pearl Jam never ceases to amaze me.
The constant flow of truly dumb comments from Pearl Jam fans is actually quite amazing. Not sure at what point some of you decided that the whole "holier than thou" music snob would come crawling out.
I used to be in the boat where I was a big DMB fan, but was never really a fan...of their fans.
Much like Dave Matthews, Pearl Jam puts on a great live show, however Pearl Jam fans are often no more different than those annoying people in DMB crowds.
Maybe just a bit more full of themselves...
Most PJ and DMB fans are very open-minded people who respect all kinds of music. Then you get those on the outer fringes who have so little in their lives BUT a band. It's pretty sad really.
Anyways, back to the OP.
No, I don't see PJ covering DMB and I don't see DMB covering PJ. I honestly do think both bands have mutual respect for each other though.
Both bands are going to be around for a long time to come, and I'm pretty sure we'll see collaborative arrangements in the future, just not covers of the other band that came out at the same time as each other (+/- a year or so).
Great reply who ever wrote it. I'm a music snob more than most but I don't no why Matthews gets beat up on the board so much. Pearl jam is by far my favorite band of all time and I would rather see them live more than any other band but Matthews is musician wise one of the top bands of all time especially with tim Reynolds on guitar. Pearl jam wins for there live shows. Between the set lists and the energy nothing beats a pearl jam show but anyone on here that plays an instument or just loves great musians check out some mattews stuff. Get one of their live albums. Tim Reynolds is one of the best guitarist of all time. I know most people don't care but I play guitar and am just amazed at how good he is. Anyway, I'll see you in Hartford!
Yep, DMB is insanely talented.
Truly incredible musicians. As a fan, I do think they tour far to damn much and need to take some time off and let the creative juices flow.
And yeah...Tim Reynolds is beyond ridiculous on guitar.
I agree, PJ puts on a better show. Sooooo much more energy. Not to take anything away from Dave, who also puts on a great show...but the level of energy just isn't quite there.
That said, from a musician standpoint...DMB is still more technical and more talented IMO.
They both cover the same songs and bands. They both do watchtower and although I am a bigger PJ fan than DMB fan, I like Dave's version better as he slows it down. They both also do Neil Young. I have actually seen DMB more than PJ just because he tours more and my goal is to see a concert in every state and with Dave this is much easier. I have seen DMB in about seven different states and every where you go he sells out and everyone sings along with his songs. I think Dave rules and this is coming from somone who named his both daughters Emily Pearl and Grace Pearl.
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Has led zeppelin (or robert plant) ever done a kings of leon cover?
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But what if they did? Would you stop listening to Pearl Jam? God forbid they or anybody else might have differing musical tastes than you. There are a good amount of people on this board that have very little musical tolerance, and it's rather sickening. So often, on this forum, I see people throwing out negative comments in regards to acts that aren't Pearl Jam or Pearl Jam related. This is why I never bring up what other bands I like around here because I know I'll get flamed to hell. All the music snobbery around here needs to stop.
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But I would bet large sums of money that this will NEVER EVER happen.
Pearl Jam doesn't need to cover DMB...and DMB doesn't ever have to cover Pearl Jam.
These are 2 very different bands with very different styles...Oddly enough, both bands seem to have similar influences...but so do many other bands.
So other than a shared love of 60's and 70's rock neither band seems to be influenced by one another...
Dave and Eddie have shared the stage a few times
-Bridge School, and that "Artists Who Hate George W. Bush Tour" from 2004-
I guess, that would have been the only chance of either Dave or Eddie participating in a cover of one anothers songs...but instead you got the typical and predictable All Star Kumbaya sing along of "People Have The Power", "Rocking in the Free World", or some Bob Dylan cover that fit the occasion.
I wouldn't rule out that maybe some members of Pearl Jam listen to DMB -Stone and Mike seem likely- But as for a full band version of a DMB song...I wouldn't hold my breath.
I remember a few years back reading an article about how Stone and Dave would hang out and Dave would let Stone use he recording studio...or something along those lines.
yet their concerts continuously sell-out for the most part year after year. just because you don't like them, doesn't mean they suck.
Hitler was a huge success in Germany. Would you agree he sucked? That's the logic you just used in your first sentence.
Your second sentence kind of makes sense. Everyone has their opinions on which bands are good, and which are bad. Personally, I think they have talent, but the way they put their music together is highly annoying. Hence, they suck.
I heard a boot of Dave covering Jeremy once.. I think I recorded it somewhere - back in the day when you could do that and not get arrested by the feds.
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that said, the dudes in DMB are good musicians.
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Yeah, I hate jam bands. Porch is so much better when Mike doesn't get to solo.
Dude, you're on the message board for a band that for the first 10 years of its existence was a rock jam band. That's part of what made those live shows back in the day legendary - you might end up with a 10-minute-long version of Alive by the time Mike was done with it. It's part of what makes live music so awesome - you get to see the musicians really let loose and show off. I'd much rather hear Pearl Jam JAM than play a three-minute-long song that's just power chords played over a 4/4 beat. I loved Mike's solos in Even Flow and Alive on Saturday - that reminded me exactly why I fell in love with the band in the first place.
And if you hate hippies, you must have a love/hate relationship with Pearl Jam. The guys are in their 40s, yet two of them still have long hair. They're a bunch of tree huggers who love the environment. They ride skateboards and surfboards. They play in a jam band that even has the word "jam" in its name. They've covered songs by Don McLean, Pink Floyd, Sly & the Family Stone, CCR, Bob Dylan, Bob Marley, John Lennon, and the Doors, among many, many, others. They're publicly anti-war. They're not exactly strangers to herbal pharmaceuticals. If I gave you that description of a band, but no name, you'd tell me it was a band filled with hippies.
And I, for one, like DMB. I don't like their middle albums very much, but Before These Crowded Streets and Big Whiskey are great. I appreciate them for the very reason someone already stated in this thread - they tour constantly, and they change their setlist up every night. Their sound has matured and changed over the years. They're all outstanding musicians.
You can say people try and ascribe TOO MUCH (nice pun, btw, even if you didn't mean it) meaning to their lyrics, but at the end of the day there are songs on Backspacer that have all the depth of a puddle. Shake Me Like A Monkey may be one step away from being a Prince song lyrically, but it's not like "Lemme Know, c'mon let's go, yeah!" is a line Dylan would've written.
So yeah, I think you're an asshole and a music snob. But you're also a Pearl Jam fan, which makes you a pretty cool asshole and music snob
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I was just wondering if anyone here thinks there is a DMB song that PJ could/should cover? Let's face it, PJ are pretty damn good at covers (e.g. Crazy Mary is pretty much a PJ song now) so if anyone can think of one that would sound good then it may be interesting to hear it.
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the OP doesn't even like DMB. and here we are agruing over if it's ok or a sin to like anybody besides pj.
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you might have to wear a disguise! :shock:
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I can understand if you don't like DMB because it's not your kind of music...that's fine, but the level of stupidity and sheer ignorance about a band that in many ways is (from a musical standpoint) technically superior to Pearl Jam never ceases to amaze me.
The constant flow of truly dumb comments from Pearl Jam fans is actually quite amazing. Not sure at what point some of you decided that the whole "holier than thou" music snob would come crawling out.
I used to be in the boat where I was a big DMB fan, but was never really a fan...of their fans.
Much like Dave Matthews, Pearl Jam puts on a great live show, however Pearl Jam fans are often no more different than those annoying people in DMB crowds.
Maybe just a bit more full of themselves...
Most PJ and DMB fans are very open-minded people who respect all kinds of music. Then you get those on the outer fringes who have so little in their lives BUT a band. It's pretty sad really.
Anyways, back to the OP.
No, I don't see PJ covering DMB and I don't see DMB covering PJ. I honestly do think both bands have mutual respect for each other though.
Both bands are going to be around for a long time to come, and I'm pretty sure we'll see collaborative arrangements in the future, just not covers of the other band that came out at the same time as each other (+/- a year or so).
Yep, DMB is insanely talented.
Truly incredible musicians. As a fan, I do think they tour far to damn much and need to take some time off and let the creative juices flow.
And yeah...Tim Reynolds is beyond ridiculous on guitar.
I agree, PJ puts on a better show. Sooooo much more energy. Not to take anything away from Dave, who also puts on a great show...but the level of energy just isn't quite there.
That said, from a musician standpoint...DMB is still more technical and more talented IMO.
yes bridge school...on the finale songs..not sure on the exact years...'99,...
I'm with Blondie on that one this person has an EXCELLENT and undeniable point. :-)
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You're correct on the Bridge School, not 1999 though. 2001, 2006.
Glad this is what you got from my post..
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very cool. bridge school holds a special place in my heart.
some of you know why.
now that answers the OPs question in a big way.
(unless pearl is a family name)
But I would bet large sums of money that this will NEVER EVER happen.
Pearl Jam doesn't need to cover DMB...and DMB doesn't ever have to cover Pearl Jam.
These are 2 very different bands with very different styles...Oddly enough, both bands seem to have similar influences...but so do many other bands.
So other than a shared love of 60's and 70's rock neither band seems to be influenced by one another...
Dave and Eddie have shared the stage a few times
-Bridge School, and that "Artists Who Hate George W. Bush Tour" from 2004-
I guess, that would have been the only chance of either Dave or Eddie participating in a cover of one anothers songs...but instead you got the typical and predictable All Star Kumbaya sing along of "People Have The Power", "Rocking in the Free World", or some Bob Dylan cover that fit the occasion.
I wouldn't rule out that maybe some members of Pearl Jam listen to DMB -Stone and Mike seem likely- But as for a full band version of a DMB song...I wouldn't hold my breath.
I remember a few years back reading an article about how Stone and Dave would hang out and Dave would let Stone use he recording studio...or something along those lines.
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Hitler was a huge success in Germany. Would you agree he sucked? That's the logic you just used in your first sentence.
Your second sentence kind of makes sense. Everyone has their opinions on which bands are good, and which are bad. Personally, I think they have talent, but the way they put their music together is highly annoying. Hence, they suck.
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Yea yea let me just join the parade and hate a band over their fans, that sure makes alot of sense!
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dmb is awesome and are ridiculously talented.
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