Bomb In Times Square
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Times Square has been shut down and the NYPD bomb squad is investigating a suspicious package, reports WCBS.
Car and pedestrian traffic has been blocked off between 44th and 46th Streets, from Broadway to Seventh Avenue while police use a robot to inspect the package found in the backseat of a burning car.
[UPDATE: Officials tell the New York Times that authorities now believe the package was a bomb, but it did not explode, and they do not know whether it was related to terrorism.]
[UPDATE 2: The NYT has now pulled back on that claim, retreating to a Reuters report that a firefighter saw "a flash" and a "mini-explosion" from the back of the SUV.]
The square was evacuated around 8 pm.
No injuries were reported.
Glad it did not blow up.
Car and pedestrian traffic has been blocked off between 44th and 46th Streets, from Broadway to Seventh Avenue while police use a robot to inspect the package found in the backseat of a burning car.
[UPDATE: Officials tell the New York Times that authorities now believe the package was a bomb, but it did not explode, and they do not know whether it was related to terrorism.]
[UPDATE 2: The NYT has now pulled back on that claim, retreating to a Reuters report that a firefighter saw "a flash" and a "mini-explosion" from the back of the SUV.]
The square was evacuated around 8 pm.
No injuries were reported.
Glad it did not blow up.
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i read theyre looking for a white guy in his 40s. you dont fit that profile do you??? :P
New York police are investigating whether there is any link between an attempted car bombing at Times Square and recent threats made against the creators of South Park.
US media say that although authorities have not found a link between the car bomb and the satirical animated show — which depicted the Muslim prophet Mohammad in a bear suit during a recent episode — they are "aggressively looking for connections" between the two after threats were made by a New York Islamist Web site last month , the New York Daily News reports.
Police have announced several strong leads in their attempt to find out who left a Nissan Pathfinder SUV with a spluttering homemade bomb in the middle of the teeming entertainment and theatre district.
A claim of responsibility by a Pakistani group Tehreek-e-Taliban was quickly dismissed as speculation mounted that a US-based or "homegrown" terrorist may have been responsible for the scare late on Saturday.
"Although a Taliban bomb maker has claimed on the internet... we have no evidence to support this claim," police commissioner Raymond Kelly said.
Kelly said the crude bomb, had it gone off, would have created a "significant fireball" and that the car "would have at least have been cut in half".
However, it remained unclear why the improvised device - comprising fireworks, propane, petrol and possibly fertiliser - failed to detonate, despite smouldering after partly catching fire.
On a visit to the oil spill on Louisiana's coast, Obama said US security services and New York law enforcement would do "what's necessary" to find the culprit.
"My national security teams have been taking every step necessary to ensure that our state and local partners have the full support and cooperation of the federal government," Obama said.
Police were sifting through a mass of clues, starting with footage from 82 security cameras in Times Square and the car and bomb, which were hauled to police laboratories in New York.
One sequence of film showed a man that Kelly said was acting in a "furtive" manner and changing his clothes as he walked away from the area.
He was "a white male in his 40s" and "seen shedding a dark coloured shirt revealing a red one underneath", Kelly said.
There was no firm evidence that the man was linked to the car and the footage may be "innocent", Kelly stressed.
In addition to that footage, Kelly said a tourist passerby had contacted police to say he too "may have got a picture of the individual" caught in the frame while he was filming a nearby mounted policeman.
Another strong avenue was the car itself, which had had its identification marks removed and was carrying licence plates to a different vehicle.
The engine was still running and the emergency lights were blinking when the car, emitting smoke, attracted the attention of a nearby street vendor.
The vendor, a Vietnam War veteran, told police, who quickly realised it was not an ordinary car fire and brought in the bomb squad.
"I did a lap around the vehicle. The inside was smoking," the first officer on the scene, Wayne Rhatigan, told the New York Daily News. "I smelled gunpowder and knew it might blow. I thought it might blow any second."
As soon as a bomb was feared police evacuated thousands of people from the area, turning the usually crammed streets into a ghost town.
Many tourists were unable to reach theatres or hotels, but Broadway shows managed to go on and were running normally on Sunday, a trade group said.
"We are very lucky... (to) avoid what could have been a very deadly event," New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said.
Officials said the bomb was terrorism, but remained cautious, declining to say whether the culprit might be US-based or linked to al-Qaeda or another foreign group.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the FBI, the New York police and the government's Terrorism Task Force were probing a "potential terrorist attack".
So far there was no evidence of a broader plot, but law enforcement authorities had been alerted to "stay on their toes", she said.
Police were checking other cameras that may have captured the vehicle, and more importantly, "people seen driving or leaving the vehicle", Kelly said.
The bomb, while threatening "mayhem", according to Kelly, was made of the kind of materials available from regular stores. Bloomberg called it "amateurish".
Kelly described a multi-layered device consisting of two alarm clocks as timers, a pot of fireworks as a detonator, two canisters of petrol, three propane gas tanks and a large box containing what was believed to be fertiliser.
"If this had detonated, in my judgment, it would have caused casualties," he said. "You have a large number of pedestrians in that area."
The scare raised tensions across the United States where security forces have been on edge since a young Nigerian allegedly attempted to set off a bomb on a US airliner as it came in to land in Detroit, Michigan.
New York City police are on constant alert after a string of terrorist plots and alleged plots in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks.
In December they closed Times Square while inspecting a van at first feared to contain a bomb, but which turned out to be carrying nothing dangerous.
In February, Afghan immigrant and self-confessed al-Qaeda agent Najibullah Zazi, 25, pleaded guilty to a plot to set off bombs in New York's subway system. He could be sentenced to life in prison.
Last year, four New Yorkers went on trial in an alleged plot to bomb a synagogue in the city and shoot down military planes.
Nearly 3000 people died in the 9/11 attacks when airliners hijacked by Islamist suicide squads slammed into the twin towers of the World Trade Centre in Manhattan, demolishing both skyscrapers.
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oh he was a terrorist alright. anyone who is willing to make their point by blowing up innocents is a terrorist.
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(A wink AND rolling eyes this time, in case anyone else misses the sarcasm )
well... duh :P
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
im not quite understanding your point.
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Hit again with what? Another act of violence in an American city?
Hail, Hail!!!
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well unfortunately recent history has proven that terrorist actions in your country are divided between these two demographics. and im not even taking into account those crazy nuts who just open fire on innocent folks.
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so you think that drowned out and myself have differing takes on this cause he was more lighthearted about it than i. is that it??? ill think youll find more than a few people see the situation as both amusing and alarming.
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well then would you prefer we start targetting blokes with our comments cause i would bet the farm that a guy planted this bomb.
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and what do you see as the problem here???
the US government is so militarised that their first response is usually to attack with overwhelming force. when impressionable minds see such a response of course theyre going to see violence as the answer, no matter what the question.
and thats the same for any government who sees violence as the answer.
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Violence begets violence.
When you are a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail.
Life is change. Growth is optional. Choose wisely.
The rich and powerful have every right to demand that they be left in peace to enjoy what they have gained, often by violence and terror; the rest can be ignored as long as they suffer in silence, but if they interfere with the lives of those who rule the world by right, the 'terrors of the earth' will be visited upon them with righteous wrath, unless power is constrained from within.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
trite quotes dont answer my question.
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It kinda all goes back to "teach a man to fish".. we don't have policy which is beneficial to not only us, but others. It's how we treat international development of poor nations, foreign policy or similar issues. We prefer things be on our terms, in our way, so we're "in control", even if in fact our way isn't productive or beneficial (this case being an example). If you feel like reading, I wrote this a little over a year ago and it goes more into detail about global economics, the spider-web in which they work and in sum, how they are set up with the idea of incorporation. http://political-illusions.blogspot.com/2009/04/big-picture.html
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
im talkingabout the times square bomb and similiar responses...what the hell are you talking about??? you sure youre in the right thread??
oh.. and i read your blog the other week.
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Anyways, regarding the times square bomb issue, I don't think there is an answer to it. I'm sure there are certain ways we can attempt to try and track or find these sort of people before it gets to that point, but in all honestly, we then become so overly sensitive to words, actions and behaviors and we rarely find the people beforehand. In terms of terrorism, we'll always be one step behind the eight-ball on how to stop it from occurring. If people want to cause chaos, you can accomplish it.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Ummm yeah, not sure if you are being condescending or what. What I mean is it's only a matter of when not if we are victim of another terrorist attack and it looks to me we almost were.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
oh thats just horseshit. we are all born innocent. its on the journey to death that we are corrupted if thats the case.
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