oil spill hits Louisiana coast

norm

he still stands

Get_Right wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

Get_Right wrote:

True
But the clean up is gonna cost them out of pocket bucks-And we all know how much they hate spending money to clean up the environment. I think I am going to invent a valve that can remotely open or shut a well below the surface/ocean bottom.

taxpayers will cover a lot of the cleanup ... whatever penalties they incur will just be written off somehow anyways ...

Im not talking about penalties. Exxon spent $4 billion to clean up Alaska.

well.. penalties can't be "written off" I'm sure. They don't reduce a company's taxable income.

And $4Billion... Exxon made $45 (FORTY FUCKING FIVE) BILLION DOLLARS just in 2008... 2009 I think was even better...

polaris_x

Get_Right wrote:

Im not talking about penalties. Exxon spent $4 billion to clean up Alaska.

how much of that was paying scientists to make up shit like they normally do? ... too bad they couldn't of spent some money to make sure the people who did the cleanup were safe ... :evil:

CJMST3K

I'm pissed about how this affects animals. It's a fucking disgrace.

polaris_x

watch this 3 part series ... this is part 2 as the first part is mostly the interviewer blowing smoke up palast's ass ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r5y7G9w ... re=related

Get_Right

all I was saying is that this will hurt the company profits, so you would think that they would come up with the technology to prevent this kind of thing-and it will cost them-take a look at the stock price for one.

To me, its ridiculous that oil is still spilling into the Gulf.

polaris_x

Get_Right wrote:

all I was saying is that this will hurt the company profits, so you would think that they would come up with the technology to prevent this kind of thing-and it will cost them-take a look at the stock price for one.

To me, its ridiculous that oil is still spilling into the Gulf.

watch the video and you will see why ... despite "by law" (which is real popular sentiment on the arizona threads) they were supposed to have certain technologies on their vessels - they chose not to comply because it was simply cheaper to have an oil spill and "clean" it up than to add all the safety requirements ...

and there stock isn't hurting too much these days so whatever valdez did - a good ole war in iraq fixed ...

Jason P

Get_Right wrote:

whatever the reason for the spill

Its a fucking shame and I find it hard to believe that a company with that kind of cash doesnt have a way to stop the flow of oil from its well AUTOMATICALLY when something like this happens

I'm not trying to justify anything, but they did have a state-of-the-art oil rig explode and sink 5 miles. It may take BP a while to track down Bruce Willis and his rough-necks to save the day.

That said, you are correct that BP should have measures ready for a worst-case scenario. Maybe a giant cork . . .

gimmesometruth27

CJMST3K wrote:

I'm pissed about how this affects animals. It's a fucking disgrace.

absolutely agreed. disgrace barely touches the significance of this event.

Jeanwah

norm wrote:

"Every a-hole who ever chanted 'Drill baby drill' should have to report to the Gulf coast today for cleanup duty" -- Bill Maher

This spill happened 1 week ago. They have had one week to do something about it, yet only got moving once it came near shore. They never ignited it, like they talked about, while it was out way off-shore. I've been watching this story as every one else for an entire week, but it was not big news until now. Who the fuck is in charge here?? The Coast Guard failed when they confirmed there was no leak shortly before the leak happened so who's fault is it and where are all the oil fans when it needs to be cleaned up??

Where the Hell is Palin now? Spill Baby Spill.

If there was ever a reason to switch to renewables on a national scale, the time would be now, with the coupling of this oil spill and the Massey Coal mine deaths and the corruption following it.

OnTheEdge

Jeanwah wrote:

norm wrote:

"Every a-hole who ever chanted 'Drill baby drill' should have to report to the Gulf coast today for cleanup duty" -- Bill Maher

This spill happened 1 week ago. They have had one week to do something about it, yet only got moving once it came near shore. They never ignited it, like they talked about, while it was out way off-shore. I've been watching this story as every one else for an entire week, but it was not big news until now. Who the fuck is in charge here?? The Coast Guard failed when they confirmed there was no leak shortly before the leak happened so who's fault is it and where are all the oil fans when it needs to be cleaned up??

Where the Hell is Palin now? Spill Baby Spill.

If there was ever a reason to switch to renewables on a national scale, the time would be now, with the coupling of this oil spill and the Massey Coal mine deaths and the corruption following it.

To think that they weren't doing anything about it until now in ridiculous. They have been working around the clock on this mess and they have been burning long before it reached shore. It is sad all the damage this is going to create, but while everybody is bitching about drilling and complaining about how much money is made in the oil business try living your life without it. We all use oil and would have a hard time surviving without it. I watched a show on TLC once where they showed what the world would be like if we ran out of oil....it wasn't pretty. With that said, I hope they come up with a solution to keep this from happening again. Something good can come out of every tragedy. When I was doing linework for a living every accident or error created another safety regulation that helped keep it from happening again.

Cosmo

mb262200 wrote:

To think that they weren't doing anything about it until now in ridiculous. They have been working around the clock on this mess and they have been burning long before it reached shore. It is sad all the damage this is going to create, but while everybody is bitching about drilling and complaining about how much money is made in the oil business try living your life without it. We all use oil and would have a hard time surviving without it. I watched a show on TLC once where they showed what the world would be like if we ran out of oil....it wasn't pretty. With that said, I hope they come up with a solution to keep this from happening again. Something good can come out of every tragedy. When I was doing linework for a living every accident or error created another safety regulation that helped keep it from happening again.

...
Regulation? Good? What?
I never thought you'd be a Liberal, Socialist, Commie... Fascist... anti-American... regulation... Islamist... Devil Worshipper.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

from what i read they initially didnt think it was leaking, then tried to use subs to turn it off, then tried to burn it.

hopefully the assholes responsible will have to pay tons of cash to fix it. and the weather will calm down and it wont as bad as the Valdez.

i worked out there for a summer and probably almost died 3 times. very dangerous work. another rig exploded while i was out there (but it didnt leak anything). i was glad to be off that that metal death trap.

OnTheEdge

Cosmo wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

To think that they weren't doing anything about it until now in ridiculous. They have been working around the clock on this mess and they have been burning long before it reached shore. It is sad all the damage this is going to create, but while everybody is bitching about drilling and complaining about how much money is made in the oil business try living your life without it. We all use oil and would have a hard time surviving without it. I watched a show on TLC once where they showed what the world would be like if we ran out of oil....it wasn't pretty. With that said, I hope they come up with a solution to keep this from happening again. Something good can come out of every tragedy. When I was doing linework for a living every accident or error created another safety regulation that helped keep it from happening again.

...
Regulation? Good? What?
I never thought you'd be a Liberal, Socialist, Commie... Fascist... anti-American... regulation... Islamist... Devil Worshipper.

um......ok

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

heh. Jazzfest is sponsored by Shell Oil.

gimmesometruth27

MrSmith wrote:

from what i read they initially didnt think it was leaking, then tried to use subs to turn it off, then tried to burn it.

hopefully the assholes responsible will have to pay tons of cash to fix it. and the weather will calm down and it wont as bad as the Valdez.

i worked out there for a summer and probably almost died 3 times. very dangerous work. another rig exploded while i was out there (but it didnt leak anything). i was glad to be off that that metal death trap.

exactly. the initial report was NO SPILL. i was very suspect of that no spill report at first. then its funny how it goes from no spill to worst oil spill in the last 30 years....i really believe they were lying. in this case, how can you have an explosion, which requires some sort of fuel, and expect there to be no oil spilling out?

PearlJam24

Get_Right wrote:

True
But the clean up is gonna cost them out of pocket bucks-And we all know how much they hate spending money to clean up the environment. I think I am going to invent a valve that can remotely open or shut a well below the surface/ocean bottom.

You're too late on the invention...the valves exist but are not used on a lot of platforms because it is not a requirement. BP is a company that chose to not use them.

WaveCameCrashin

Just so everyones knows I was only asking a simple ? regarding the swat teams. :roll: :geek: I have no intention on blaming Obama for any of this, but not saying anything for 8 days makes me wonder why his administration would wait so long cos let's be fair if this was the Bush administration the media would be going ape shit right now.If they would have been silent for 8 days.
But Im not going to focus on that right now, Does anyone else think that maybe that this could have been intentional ? Just asking ... :idea: since obama did say that they were going to start to allow more drillling ? This decision could have really pissed some environmentalist off, I mean hey you never know these days.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

prfctlefts wrote:

Just so everyones knows I was only asking a simple ? regarding the swat teams. :roll: :geek: I have no intention on blaming Obama for any of this, but not saying anything for 8 days makes me wonder why his administration would wait so long cos let's be fair if this was the Bush administration the media would be going ape shit right now.If they would have been silent for 8 days.
But Im not going to focus on that right now, Does anyone else think that maybe that this could have been intentional ? Just asking ... :idea: since obama did say that they were going to start to allow more drillling ? This decision could have really pissed some environmentalist off, I mean hey you never know these days.

i seriously doubt any environmentalists would have the ability to pull off something like that.

to be honest it does seem kind fluky to me. its not exactly common, but oil rigs do blow up from time to time. rarely does it result in a massive oil spill though. there are probably several different factors involved.

on the one i was working, the driller miscalculated something and the pressure spit a few big 30 foot steel pipes raining down on the deck and covered everything in "mud" (its not really mud). lucky it didnt blow up. it doesnt take much to screw up something i guess.

WaveCameCrashin

MrSmith wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Just so everyones knows I was only asking a simple ? regarding the swat teams. :roll: :geek: I have no intention on blaming Obama for any of this, but not saying anything for 8 days makes me wonder why his administration would wait so long cos let's be fair if this was the Bush administration the media would be going ape shit right now.If they would have been silent for 8 days.
But Im not going to focus on that right now, Does anyone else think that maybe that this could have been intentional ? Just asking ... :idea: since obama did say that they were going to start to allow more drillling ? This decision could have really pissed some environmentalist off, I mean hey you never know these days.

i seriously doubt any environmentalists would have the ability to pull off something like that.

to be honest it does seem kind fluky to me. its not exactly common, but oil rigs do blow up from time to time. rarely does it result in a massive oil spill though. there are probably several different factors involved.

on the one i was working, the driller miscalculated something and the pressure spit a few big 30 foot steel pipes raining down on the deck and covered everything in "mud" (its not really mud). lucky it didnt blow up. it doesnt take much to screw up something i guess.

Yeah you're probably right... But then again people probably said the same thing bringing down the WTC buildings to. just sayin....