Newark is a pain in the ass to get to from NYC isn't it? Is there a train that goes directly there? I know there is no train from Philly. And be prepared to get raped for parking at Prudential Center. I think it was about $30 last january for Metallica.
piece of cake from NYC and there are a decent number of trains from Philly to Newark-Amtrack.
true about the parking though-its just gotten way out of hand at the sports arenas/stadiums in the NYC area
I dont think its that big of deal for the crew to make a stop in Newark before setting up shop in NYC. Its more work, but hey they are professionals.
I would think at this stage of their careers when they are all multi-millionaires there would be some consideration given to what would be easier as opposed to what would be slightly more profitable. But obviously not. Newark is a pain in the ass to get to from NYC isn't it? Is there a train that goes directly there? I know there is no train from Philly. And be prepared to get raped for parking at Prudential Center. I think it was about $30 last january for Metallica.
njtransit and path trains both stop very close to the arena.
I would think at this stage of their careers when they are all multi-millionaires there would be some consideration given to what would be easier as opposed to what would be slightly more profitable. But obviously not. Newark is a pain in the ass to get to from NYC isn't it? Is there a train that goes directly there? I know there is no train from Philly. And be prepared to get raped for parking at Prudential Center. I think it was about $30 last january for Metallica.
uhhh ... what about people who don't live in NYC? ... it's clear there are already 2 shows for those people but for those who are traveling - is it possible that Newark is actually moer convenient? ... like say people from Philly?
I would think at this stage of their careers when they are all multi-millionaires there would be some consideration given to what would be easier as opposed to what would be slightly more profitable. But obviously not. Newark is a pain in the ass to get to from NYC isn't it? Is there a train that goes directly there? I know there is no train from Philly. And be prepared to get raped for parking at Prudential Center. I think it was about $30 last january for Metallica.
uhhh ... what about people who don't live in NYC? ... it's clear there are already 2 shows for those people but for those who are traveling - is it possible that Newark is actually moer convenient? ... like say people from Philly?
nyc is way closer to newark
its a 10 min trainride from the WTC
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maybe they were trying to make it easier for others in the area (philly) to get too ... beyond just getting into manhattan, there is parking, hotels and such that are more expensive as well ...
That's what I was thinking too - having one at Newark is spreading it around a little more - one or the other place will be easier for various people coming from a variety of places. I do love NYC and MSG is where I"m going, but sometimes the logistics of getting into the city quickly can be challenging if your time is short and you get stuck in traffic on 95 or 17 or something.
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I´m glad they didn´t have a 3rd concert at MSG, didn´t want to go through hell with the tix again ... got our tix for Newark nice and easy ( like it´s always should be :roll: ) we did get tix for MSG but the 2nd night only 2 singel tix so my wife and I want be abel to stand together :( it´s not that bad like I always say as long as you get a ticket and get in
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the spectrum was a dump as well, but man, what a show that was back in october
The Spectrum is renowned for having excellent acoustics. As is the Tower Theater in Upper Darby. It is no coincidence that good bands sound even better in these venues.
The Spectrum may have been getting older and had poor sight lines and limited amenities, but the venue itself is a measuring stick for great sound properties.
The Garden isn't known for anything positive. It's ugly and it stinks. The sound there is sub-par.
That being said, Pearl Jam tears the fucking roof off of it every time, so it doesn't matter how bad/good the venue is - you're in for a great sonic experience.
I thought the sound at the spectrum seriously sucked, esp hearing all the hype
msg has great sound, esp with bands that make it a priority
as to why newark over msg 3, having witnessed the beauty that was ed's solo show, newark def showed him the love and this is payback
Not sure who is the promoter for Madison Square Garden if its Metropolitian or LiveNation. I know AEG is doing Newark and the venue is surrounded by a Giant Toilet Bowl thanks to Conan O'Brien.
MSG is the best on a great night. It's called "MSG Magic". Labeled back in the day when the Dead played there. The sound is amazing if you are in the half of the arena closest to band, And behind stage- even in the 300's. The back corners of arena, yes the sound sucks. Overall MSG is one of my favorite venues of all time. Not crazy about having to go out to Jersey, but you do what you gotta do,.
ive never been to a concert at msg but from what im told the sound isnt the greatest. that being said ive been to numerous rangers and knicks games there and to say the building is dead or old and decrepid is very ignorant. the place gets a buzz to it when the crowd and there are no bad seats. the concourses i like a lot more than prudential and most of the bathrooms have 2 sides. so imo its a great place to have concerts. i mean watching msg 03 is enough to realize these 2 shows are the "hot tickets."
Beacon '08
Philly 2-4 '09
Newark '10
MSG 1+2 '10
E.V. Beacon 1+2 '11
Made in America Festival '12
Worcester 1+2 '13
Brooklyn 1+2 '13
Global Citizens Festival '15
MSG 1+2 '16
Fenway Park 1+2 '16 Ohana '17 Home Shows 1+2 '18 Ohana '18 Ohana '19 Sea Hear Now '21 Ohana '21 LA 1+2 '22 Austin 1+2 '23 Ohana '23 Vegas 1+2 '24 LA 1+2 '24 MSG 1+2 '24
Not sure who is the promoter for Madison Square Garden if its Metropolitian or LiveNation. I know AEG is doing Newark and the venue is surrounded by a Giant Toilet Bowl thanks to Conan O'Brien.
Delsener/Slater and Metropolitan were the big two, and both rivals. D/S was pretty much pj's exclusive in the NY/NJ area. Delsener/Slater was bought and is now part of Live Nation, and Ron Delsener still is a bigwig within the company. Mitch Slater then became a competitor to LN by working for Metropolitan, and then quickly sold Metropolitan to LN.
Some of Metropolitan's people went to AEG
PJ has not (as far as I know) used Metropolitan. I believe any show within D/S old territory is handled by LN.
EDIT - Delsener/Slater handled the '98 shows at MSG, and Live Nation (formerly D/S) handled the 2008 and is handling the 2010 shows. I wasn't at the 2003 shows, but my money is on LN for those shows.
(I'm simplifying it by saying "Live Nation", since Live Nation was Clear Channel was SFX)
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*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
MSG is the best on a great night. It's called "MSG Magic". Labeled back in the day when the Dead played there. The sound is amazing if you are in the half of the arena closest to band, And behind stage- even in the 300's. The back corners of arena, yes the sound sucks. Overall MSG is one of my favorite venues of all time. Not crazy about having to go out to Jersey, but you do what you gotta do,.
No question MSG does have some magic-and when there is a good crowd-man there is nothing like it.
but the sound at MSG is unfortunately nowhere near "amazing" even by the sound board-the spectrum, Izod, pru center, PNC, hartford-all have MUCH better sound unfortunately
in 08, PJ's sound was not as good as it has been in the past-perhaps it will be better this time around.
Just my opinion and Ive seen quite a few shows at the garden.
MSG is the best on a great night. It's called "MSG Magic". Labeled back in the day when the Dead played there. The sound is amazing if you are in the half of the arena closest to band, And behind stage- even in the 300's. The back corners of arena, yes the sound sucks. Overall MSG is one of my favorite venues of all time. Not crazy about having to go out to Jersey, but you do what you gotta do,.
No question MSG does have some magic-and when there is a good crowd-man there is nothing like it.
but the sound at MSG is unfortunately nowhere near "amazing" even by the sound board-the spectrum, Izod, pru center, PNC, hartford-all have MUCH better sound unfortunately
in 08, PJ's sound was not as good as it has been in the past-perhaps it will be better this time around.
Just my opinion and Ive seen quite a few shows at the garden.
i can only hear myself anyway
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true about the parking though-its just gotten way out of hand at the sports arenas/stadiums in the NYC area
I dont think its that big of deal for the crew to make a stop in Newark before setting up shop in NYC. Its more work, but hey they are professionals.
njtransit and path trains both stop very close to the arena.
uhhh ... what about people who don't live in NYC? ... it's clear there are already 2 shows for those people but for those who are traveling - is it possible that Newark is actually moer convenient? ... like say people from Philly?
nyc is way closer to newark
its a 10 min trainride from the WTC
That's what I was thinking too - having one at Newark is spreading it around a little more - one or the other place will be easier for various people coming from a variety of places. I do love NYC and MSG is where I"m going, but sometimes the logistics of getting into the city quickly can be challenging if your time is short and you get stuck in traffic on 95 or 17 or something.
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*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
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Where is the WTC?
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We are so exited and can´t wait to see them again
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I thought the sound at the spectrum seriously sucked, esp hearing all the hype
msg has great sound, esp with bands that make it a priority
as to why newark over msg 3, having witnessed the beauty that was ed's solo show, newark def showed him the love and this is payback
'00 12 shows / '03 4 shows / '06 6 shows
'08 3 shows / '09 5 shows / '10 6 shows
Philly 2-4 '09
Newark '10
MSG 1+2 '10
E.V. Beacon 1+2 '11
Made in America Festival '12
Worcester 1+2 '13
Brooklyn 1+2 '13
Global Citizens Festival '15
MSG 1+2 '16
Fenway Park 1+2 '16
Ohana '17
Home Shows 1+2 '18
Ohana '18
Ohana '19
Sea Hear Now '21
Ohana '21
LA 1+2 '22
Austin 1+2 '23
Ohana '23
Vegas 1+2 '24
LA 1+2 '24
MSG 1+2 '24
Delsener/Slater and Metropolitan were the big two, and both rivals. D/S was pretty much pj's exclusive in the NY/NJ area. Delsener/Slater was bought and is now part of Live Nation, and Ron Delsener still is a bigwig within the company. Mitch Slater then became a competitor to LN by working for Metropolitan, and then quickly sold Metropolitan to LN.
Some of Metropolitan's people went to AEG
PJ has not (as far as I know) used Metropolitan. I believe any show within D/S old territory is handled by LN.
EDIT - Delsener/Slater handled the '98 shows at MSG, and Live Nation (formerly D/S) handled the 2008 and is handling the 2010 shows. I wasn't at the 2003 shows, but my money is on LN for those shows.
(I'm simplifying it by saying "Live Nation", since Live Nation was Clear Channel was SFX)
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
but the sound at MSG is unfortunately nowhere near "amazing" even by the sound board-the spectrum, Izod, pru center, PNC, hartford-all have MUCH better sound unfortunately
in 08, PJ's sound was not as good as it has been in the past-perhaps it will be better this time around.
Just my opinion and Ive seen quite a few shows at the garden.
i can only hear myself anyway