An honest question regarding the Tea Party and voting
FiveB247x
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I have a question regarding the Tea Bag Party. Please note this is not a thread to argue their beliefs or some generalizations some may have for them, but merely an honest question. In the next election, who will they be voting for and why? It's unlikely they'd vote for any Democrat. Will they simply vote Republican or will they vote 3rd party? At the heart of their commentary, which they do make some valid points (even if they backed the same policies years back), how will they use the vote and election to change things? If they vote Republican, will they merely change by holding them to higher standards and continue this movement or will they merely check out once "their side" got back power? Will they vote 3rd party as a sign of disgust for what the two major parties have done and where they've led us? How will this play itself out?
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
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That being said, since their protests are aimed at a Democratic president & party, it stands to reason that they're not going to be voting Democrat either. Maybe this means third parties are about to get a ton of votes.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
But since you asked, These are a few candidates that I support.
Marco Rubio( Fla.)
J.D. Hayworth (Arizona)
Sharon Angle (Nevada )
Pat Toomey (Penn.)
Marlin Stutzman (Indiana)
Mike lee( Utah)
Chuck Devore (Cali)
IMHO These are the most solid conservative and constitutionalist. No more Rhino's
The reason why I wouldn't support a 3rd party cadidate as of right now is because they always ends up splitting up the conservatives vote just like Ross perot did.
The TEA PARTY MOVEMENT Is here to stay. I find it verry funny that so many on here thought that we wouldn't amount to anything and that our first protest would be our last.
Secondly, there's no guarantee this political group is here to stay. Fringe groups and 3rd party groups come and go, that doesn't mean this one can't stay long term, but it also doesn't guarantee it will be long term either.
Lastly and this brings us full circle, many if not most of the major problems in government is not solely who's in power, but it's thing that have zero to do with the constitution. Things like lobbying, pork barreling, gerrymandering, campaign financing and the long list of similar. These are systematic problems enabled by both parties and now a main-stay in our system. Even at best case scenario and the tea party movement got power and control, how would that be any different from what we see now - mere watered down policy as a result of industry's influence for their own benefit? Mind you, this is not a partisan discussion as both sides have to deal with the same exact problems.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
re-elect NO ONE! :idea:
Hopefully that will bring the Change the people are looking for....
But to re-elect no one, you must elect someone in their place. Who will the Tea Party folks vote for if their only options are more of the same?
What a great excuse “the media say’s it”
....Hopefully you can stop the name calling.......
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I agree that the term "Teabagger" is fairly insulting, but it's also worth pointing out that the saying originated with the Tea Party protesters themselves:
http://community.tasteofhome.com/forums/t/777281.aspx
"Olbermann said, “It is as useful to remind them anew of how the term originated and with whom. A TV news report aired last March 14 in which a correspondent described the original protest act, ‘take a teabag, put it in an envelope, and mail it to the White House.’ He added, ‘reteaparty.com has a headline Teabag the Fools in D.C. on tax day.’ Thus the verb to teabag was invented by the teabaggers themselves, and the correspondent who put it on TV was a Griff Jenkins of Fox News. Send your complaints to him.”
Also, the photo that "doesn't link" now links, though if you don't want to click on it, it's of a Tea Party supporter holding up a button that says "Proud to be a Teabagger." Not included: the bizarre photo of the elderly woman standing on the side of the road holding up a sign saying "I'm teabagging for Jesus" that does the rounds in the emails that get sent around highlighting the more "interesting" signs you'll see at a Tea Party protest.
If a movement picks an embarrassing name for itself, then supporters of the movement are on shaky ground when they get offended at people using their own name to make fun of them. They may prefer "Tea Party" now, but "Tea Party supporter" and "Teabagger" were used interchangably at the start.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Here is a start for anyone wanting to learn the true inception and direction of this in your face bagging movement :
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/09/lob ... eaparties/
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/ ... ick-armey/
http://www.alternet.org/economy/136688/ ... ca/?page=1
http://debatebothsides.com/showthread.p ... oratocracy
The Tea Party is not as organized as the media seems to portray....which is what makes it so fascinating....The Tea Party has many members...All in all we are a large group of people that felt our elected officials were not listening to anyone other than lobbyist or special interest....we wanted to be heard .... we are a new and inExperienced at politics.......... without using a lawyer, an agent, and with out a publicist, all there is, is the media to give you the information that they WANT you to believe..... we are all parties, all races, all ethnicity and all Americans that want to Defending Liberty, Private Property, The Constitution, and Limited Government...to do that they feel it can be done by voting...
I challenge people to go to the Tea Party sites and inform there selves about the Tea Party.....then form an opinion........
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Maybe it started so simple as to think that if Washington saw Americans in numbers gather being peaceful not breaking laws but not happy with the way they were running the country they would say to themselves “my voters are not happy with what we are doing (or some would say “shit I’m busted I better stop lining my pockets with special interest or cooperate money) they are now paying attention I better listening to them...
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
The people in the Tea Party know the movement does not support any party and anyone can join....I think that is one of the reasons it is snowballing now .....but the problem starts with the media spinning it to look like there are political partisan overtones in the movement . One side wants to ridicule the Tea Party and the other side wants to jump on the train.....Maybe it’s the media that needs cleaning up...boycott the Media?
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
The biggest issue and that either a Democrat or Republican will still find themselves in office after the dust settles. But maybe some new blood will help lead to overall political reform.
The term "teabagger", while unintendedly hilarious, is a self inflicted wound:
Now, as to how the so called Tea Party movement will vote - this group is fundamentally indistinguishable from the Republican base. When push comes to shove, they will decidedly support the right wing fringe in DC - the same ones that gave us Sarah Palin, Jim DeMint, Michele Bachmann, and Joe Wilson. And given the current Republican party's push to purge "moderates" (see Charlie Crist) and "heretics" (see Ron Paul) from their ranks, I don't see how the so called Tea Party will support any other candidates. Plus, their biggest supporters are part of the same gang of right wing financiers that supported Republican candidates and causes.
Furthermore, while Ron Paul is often credited as the father of the modern Tea Party movement, these are not even the same people that supported Ron Paul back in 2006 - else why would Paul rate so low with them?
And speaking of Paul, if he's such a revered figure among the insurgent right,why is he facing challengers from the tea party ranks? Is it because he's been critical of the right wing fringe in the GOP?
Go to the Tea Party site and read
Why don't you refute the polls instead of just slamming it as bullshit?
Besides, there's several so called "Tea Party" groups - which one are you talking about?