Babysitting while following tour, or bring the cage??

justam

Markiemark70 wrote:

Well you're not going to like to hear this, but I think it is kind of immature and irresponsible to do what you are doing. You're actually planning a trip around the schedule of a rock band and looking for someone to leave your 4 year old with?

I love this band too but I would never do what you are proposing. My children are way more important, like not even on the same scale more important than Pearl Jam (even though they are the greatest band in the world). Why not just hit a few shows that you can get to in a couple of hours and either leave your son with someone he and you know?

My wife and I travelled from Toronto to both MSG shows in 2008, but ONLY because her parents agreed to come and watch our 1 year old daughter. If they hadn't come I never would have considered it.

Sorry but for me it sounds a bit selfish. Do you really HAVE to see the band ten times or whatever? Go to one or 2 shows then take your kid to Disneyland with the money you will save. Sorry if that is harsh but you asked.

I agree with this guy ^^^.

Even if most of the babysitters are fine, what if someone you leave your child with ISN'T okay? Why would you be willing to do this? Your child is too young to be left with a bunch of people your child doesn't know!

This seems like irresponsible parenting to me.

drsluggo

OffMeGoes wrote:

I am pretty sure I was seeking advice to see if what I hope to do would be at all possible....not sure where that is immature or irresponsible. I don't know your situation, so as much as I feel that you going two nights in a row to MSG was possibly unnecessary since you are Canadian, I wouldn't ever say anything to point that out, especially since I have no idea who you are, what you are capable of, what your passions are, what your character is.

You can't have it both ways. You come on here saying you need to find a way to have your 4 year old kid watched in cities around the country to go to PJ shows. First off I highly doubt anyone is going to know off the top of their head hotel policies on watching kids and, second, there's no way everyone is going to reply with 100% info and no opinion.

And come on -- if you're going to compare going from Canada to MSG with taking a 4 year old son around the country and leaving him with strangers at random hotels so you can go to shows... just don't.

OffMeGoes

Lowlight wrote:

OffMeGoes wrote:

Lowlight wrote:

Instead of asking us, try calling the hotels where you are staying.

And, bty.........in case you think I missed it, you have 3 posts since 2003. I must have really got you fired up to have you dust off the keyboard and fire out such remarkable advice after lurking low-pro for the past 5.33 years.... I want to go back and find your other two posts, but I want to get settled in and cozy before I delve into them. If they are anything like number 3, I am in for a night of great reading and life healing.... retract! You have 1788 calendar days until you need to type again.......see you in 2016!!

Instead of poor attempts at humor / searching for my old posts, try calling some hotels and asking about their babysitting services. Better yet, spend that time with your 4 year old.

I am totally humbled and honored that you have spent your fourth post on me!! I am now fifty percent of your board focus......I think I can up that, but I won't tell you how......nope, not gunna tell you.......

Oh, my son is right here, like clockwork.......I appreciate your advice, but, I don't remember telling you how to pick up trash, so I am not sure why you are telling me how to do my job.........he is here 22.5 hours a day, all of them in a day except for when the state takes him for examining or if I have to go down to the hotel by the port.....then he goes in the cage....

Again, it's nobody's fault, and if you want to just offer me two put-ups (they have to be genuine, nothing about my great taste in clothes or amazing eyes...well, that would work actually...) If you can do two put-ups, I will send you the same offer of every EV solo show on CD.......thoughts?

justam

This reminds of of things like parents who take their toddlers walking on the Golden Gate bridge and then the little kid slips through the cracks of the railing because no one is paying attention and then the parents cry "But, we didn't realize we'd have to hold her hand! We thought it was safe to walk on the bridge." :roll:

SarahLou

surely we leave our kids with people they dont know a lot of the time? if your at home and you get a baby-sitter, or hire a nanny, sure you may have met them before but this is just as much assurance you will get as trusting a reputable hotel chain to have interviewed the person.

When you take your kid to a nursery/day care/play area of restaurant! The kid is 4 so (uk anyway) he will have been to nursery school, or will be starting primary school. Do you know ALL the staff that work in these places that will be around your kid??

I dont think that this Dad is acting irresponsibly, cause we trust people all the time to care for our kids, difference here, is that its the city that is unfamiliar. So all he had done is seek advice from people who may live in these city...

drsluggo

SarahLou wrote:

I dont think that this Dad is acting irresponsibly, cause we trust people all the time to care for our kids, difference here, is that its the city that is unfamiliar. So all he had done is seek advice from people who may live in these city...

That and when you look for babysitters/day care/preschool/etc locally you can check it out beforehand personally or know people who use it or be able to sit in on some of it before you commit to it for a long term plan.

You go to NYC and it doesnt look as good as the person on the phone says it did and you're screwed. You either leave your kid in a place you're not 100% comfortable with or you miss the show.

This isn't looking for kid-friendly hotels - this is looking for a place to drop your child off for the night while you travel the country going to concerts.... it just seems like a huge difference.

The Stugots

The annoyance level of someone asking around on a public message board for how to babysit their kid is far lower than the OP's severe ellipses abuse. Doesn't your pinky get tired?

SarahLou

drsluggo wrote:

SarahLou wrote:

I dont think that this Dad is acting irresponsibly, cause we trust people all the time to care for our kids, difference here, is that its the city that is unfamiliar. So all he had done is seek advice from people who may live in these city...

That and when you look for babysitters/day care/preschool/etc locally you can check it out beforehand personally or know people who use it or be able to sit in on some of it before you commit to it for a long term plan.

You go to NYC and it doesnt look as good as the person on the phone says it did and you're screwed. You either leave your kid in a place you're not 100% comfortable with or you miss the show.

This isn't looking for kid-friendly hotels - this is looking for a place to drop your child off for the night while you travel the country going to concerts.... it just seems like a huge difference.

Well thats why he was saying calling the hotels wouldn't work i think, cause on here he could advise about how good or bad it is from people who you are more inclined to be honest and to trust (common interest/sticking together and all that) The hotels will always say it is trustworthy etc, but a pit member can say, "nope, i've done it, its shit, maybe try this...."

They guy obv cares alot for his son, and although it is all good sharing opinion, and maybe making him think a different way, it is inevitably his choice, and one he is determined to make.

jamburger

justam wrote:

This reminds of of things like parents who take their toddlers walking on the Golden Gate bridge and then the little kid slips through the cracks of the railing because no one is paying attention and then the parents cry "But, we didn't realize we'd have to hold her hand! We thought it was safe to walk on the bridge." :roll:

Lowlight

OffMeGoes wrote:

I am not sure why you are telling me how to do my job.

Because you are asking people if they know of any reputable baby-sitting services at hotels. Clearly you need help, if not, you would already have your answer.

Why not go outside (with your son) and ask people on the street the same question?

zootown

OffMeGoes wrote:

Markiemark70 wrote:

Well you're not going to like to hear this, but I think it is kind of immature and irresponsible to do what you are doing. You're actually planning a trip around the schedule of a rock band and looking for someone to leave your 4 year old with?

I love this band too but I would never do what you are proposing. My children are way more important, like not even on the same scale more important than Pearl Jam (even though they are the greatest band in the world). Why not just hit a few shows that you can get to in a couple of hours and either leave your son with someone he and you know?

My wife and I travelled from Toronto to both MSG shows in 2008, but ONLY because her parents agreed to come and watch our 1 year old daughter. If they hadn't come I never would have considered it.

Sorry but for me it sounds a bit selfish. Do you really HAVE to see the band ten times or whatever? Go to one or 2 shows then take your kid to Disneyland with the money you will save. Sorry if that is harsh but you asked.

I don't mind your opinion at all. I really don't want this to sound harsh either, but I know I can write where it sounds way worse than it is meant to be, so forgive me in advance......Everyone has a right to their own opinion, just not their own facts......

I do really have to see this band ten times. In fact, I have seen them 71 times, almost all in new cities....it is what I do and what I love doing...I get to travel to new places and combine it with a sure fire event that never fails and is never the same.....I am pretty sure I was seeking advice to see if what I hope to do would be at all possible....not sure where that is immature or irresponsible. I don't know your situation, so as much as I feel that you going two nights in a row to MSG was possibly unnecessary since you are Canadian, I wouldn't ever say anything to point that out, especially since I have no idea who you are, what you are capable of, what your passions are, what your character is. I'm a single dad that just sold his business, that loves nothing more on earth than just being with my son, that would take a huge road trip right now and that had planned on it anyway, it just got pushed forward by the tour, and that appreciates your concern but that didn't even register why you wrote to me....I was asking people if they knew about the service....I am looking for that info, not your presumptions or what you would do. And i am not one of those parents that thinks I know what is best and that nobody needs to interfere...fuck, half the time I have no clue....but I would never put my kid in a dangerous situation,...but if you think the Hyatt regency's baby sitting service is totally unsafe for three hours of watching my son when he would probably sleep anyway, maybe you are correct, and that is why I am asking.....?? I don't know.....I still need to know what it is like at the centers, and the only real reason I placed this on the boards is because I know that I am not the only one that has wondered these things....yes, some things I write may barely spark an interest with anyone, but some are pretty good....and I do this for fun....sometimes I dont even know if I am asking serious questions or playing around.....this one, I am not fooling around....well, with the actual purpose....I need information from people that may have experienced this...it may seem like a bad idea to anyone that doesn't know about it, (like me, I dont know...) but be a single father and come back to me and tell me that it is ridiculous and immature for you to look at options. I'm the goose, and trust me, I have worked hard and have earned what I want.....part of the reason, if not the main reason, that I sold my business was to spend more time with my son....which is nearly 24 hours a day.......havent killed him yet, pretty sure it isnt one of my goals......


I will say, if I cannot go, you looking for some tickets??? Hahahahahahahahahah...............just joking.....I am going...I will find a way, a friend, that stupid sister of mine, an undocumented korean kid,....your wife's parents aren't free are they???

And, at the end of it all,...you are right in a lot of ways.......I know that......I tell you what,...it's nobody's fault.....if you just agree with me and give me two put ups, I will send you either photos of me with my shirt off or every EV solo show on CD...........

Im not gonna question your love or commitment to your child, not my place! But, I do think you are on a slippery slope as a parent. You have clearly made many sacrifices for your son, but I always get sketched out when parents justify expansive and expensive "rewards" for themselves to somehow balance out their parenting duties. This sounds like fodder for resentment towards your son and your parenting duties. Yeah, you "have" to see these shows. No you don't. I think both you and your son might be better served if you could find some self-care activities (because yes you need an outlet and some fun in your life too!), that dont involve dragging your 4 year old son across the country to see multiple shows of your fav rock band. Stressful and disruptive with a little bit of fun would likely be how your son would characterize these trips if he honestly could.

URthekey

Whenever I have to shlep the kids along I bring a "nanny". Usually my niece to chill at the hotel with my daughter while I go to the show. It costs more to have another mouth to feed, but for the piece of mind you have while at the show its worth it.

OffMeGoes

The Stugots wrote:

The annoyance level of someone asking around on a public message board for how to babysit their kid is far lower than the OP's severe ellipses abuse. Doesn't your pinky get tired?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......(that's funny) i really did laugh out loud.....nice one...

covered in bliss

You would have to contact every hotel and speak to the concierge. Have him/her email you their list of babysitting services. Other than those 'all inclusive' places, I don't think hotel chains have an in-house service that they are responsible for. We thought about getting a sitter in Atlanta a few years ago (Hyatt). They had a list, nothing right there, in-house. It was last minute and I couldn't check as thoroughly as I wanted to so I stayed behind.

After getting the info on local services, you should call each place and ask for a list of references and then check the references. Check the internet for reviews or negative feedback, etc.

OffMeGoes

[/quote]Im not gonna question your love or commitment to your child, not my place! But, I do think you are on a slippery slope as a parent. You have clearly made many sacrifices for your son, but I always get sketched out when parents justify expansive and expensive "rewards" for themselves to somehow balance out their parenting duties. This sounds like fodder for resentment towards your son and your parenting duties. Yeah, you "have" to see these shows. No you don't. I think both you and your son might be better served if you could find some self-care activities (because yes you need an outlet and some fun in your life too!), that dont involve dragging your 4 year old son across the country to see multiple shows of your fav rock band. Stressful and disruptive with a little bit of fun would likely be how your son would characterize these trips if he honestly could.[/quote]


Wow.....you knew about half your place..... Listen, when I have to explain to him why his mom was killed by a drunk driver I will come asking you for some more "It's not my place, but let me tell you how to handle this" advice.......





Or if you could advise me whether or not it is uncool to make up stories like the one above, I obviously am unsure and shouldnt be left alone to make those calls.......


I know I am right. And again, it is nobody's fault.

I bet you all think it is bad that I spank out of the blue and bring out the belt to feel empowered and because I think it is actually wanted......but that is my personal life with my girlfriend.....so it shouldnt bother you...but with this crowd, who knows......


Maybe someone would volunteer to be a handler for me? I am thinking of taking my son outside, getting nervous that I may trade him again for something shiny......

zootown

Wow.....you knew about half your place..... Listen, when I have to explain to him why his mom was killed by a drunk driver I will come asking you for some more "It's not my place, but let me tell you how to handle this" advice.......





Or if you could advise me whether or not it is uncool to make up stories like the one above, I obviously am unsure and shouldnt be left alone to make those calls.......


I know I am right. And again, it is nobody's fault.

I bet you all think it is bad that I spank out of the blue and bring out the belt to feel empowered and because I think it is actually wanted......but that is my personal life with my girlfriend.....so it shouldnt bother you...but with this crowd, who knows......


Maybe someone would volunteer to be a handler for me? I am thinking of taking my son outside, getting nervous that I may trade him again for something shiny......[/qu


Yep, you are right. You are always right. One thing you are clearly clueless about though is that many parents would never do what you are doing. Did you really think that you were only going to get advice on babysitting with a thread like this?

OffMeGoes

Lowlight wrote:

OffMeGoes wrote:

I am not sure why you are telling me how to do my job.

Because you are asking people if they know of any reputable baby-sitting services at hotels. Clearly you need help, if not, you would already have your answer.

Why not go outside (with your son) and ask people on the street the same question?

Dude, I told you I was gunna make you post about me again.........you haven't seen Dumb and Dumber???? I am now 3/5ths of your posts.....

Markiemark70

OffMeGoes wrote:

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Wow.....you knew about half your place..... Listen, when I have to explain to him why his mom was killed by a drunk driver I will come asking you for some more "It's not my place, but let me tell you how to handle this" advice.......





Or if you could advise me whether or not it is uncool to make up stories like the one above, I obviously am unsure and shouldnt be left alone to make those calls.......


I know I am right. And again, it is nobody's fault.

I bet you all think it is bad that I spank out of the blue and bring out the belt to feel empowered and because I think it is actually wanted......but that is my personal life with my girlfriend.....so it shouldnt bother you...but with this crowd, who knows......


Maybe someone would volunteer to be a handler for me? I am thinking of taking my son outside, getting nervous that I may trade him again for something shiny......

OK so from your first response to my posting of my opinion, you actually seemed pretty normal, and I could tell that you care for your child and had some good points, but I have to say that your recent posts are kind of sounding like you are off your meds or something. Either that or you have that kind of sense of humour, you know the one that noone else but you gets?

Anyways, I guess to each their own (and in fairness I am sometimes seen as overly cautious with my children, so I am not discounting your justifications completely). All I know is that I could not imagine leaving my kids, at night, with strangers, no matter what a hotel concierge says about them. A few points to consider:

-What kind of people do you think will take this kind of work? Last minute, late at night, for probably minimum wage?

-What if you get there and then the reality sets in with your son and he is scared? Will you not go?

All I know is that at one time I would have been right there with you. Pearl Jam is no 1, I have to go. But that all changed when I started a family. Now going to a PJ show is not even in my top 10 in terms of what really matters in life. Of course I will go see them when they are near or in my home town, and nothing else has to suffer for my indulgence, but leaving my kids or dragging them around the country to spends thousands on a rock show is not even in the realm of reality for me today.

To each there own.

OffMeGoes

Yep, you are right. You are always right. One thing you are clearly clueless about though is that many parents would never do what you are doing. Did you really think that you were only going to get advice on babysitting with a thread like this?/quote]

I thought I could get some advice about babysitting on this thread because it is a thread about Babysitting....

next question.....

Lowlight

OffMeGoes wrote:

I thought I could get some advice about babysitting on this thread because it is a thread about Babysitting....
next question.....

And who better to give advice about hotel baby sitting services, than us?