Gay Marriage

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  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    unsung wrote:
    What's the difference between civil unions and marriage? If you get all the death benefits, insurance, equal rights, divorce fees, and whatever else goes into what a married man and woman get where's the gripe?

    Give gay people civil unions with all benefits and let the Catholics keep marriage. Everyone wins.

    Yes, for fuck's sake, coddle the catholics
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

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  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    FiveB247x wrote:
    You are absolutely correct, but in the real world, people's notion and idea of marriage is that of religion..

    If you're referring to the fact that most people in this country are religious, then I can probably agree. But to make my point more blunt, remember that the vast majority of the population also opposed mixed race marriages before the Supreme Court affirmed that marriage was a "basic civil right" in Loving v Virginia (1967), and subsequently struck down all miscegenation laws.

    In fact, notice how the same arguments used against mixed race marriages are being used against gay marriages too.
    polaris_x wrote:
    great post and happy birthday!

    Thank you... I may not be young and pretty but thank goodness money can buy lap dances. :lol:
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I completely agree with you in every aspect and think you're right - it's purely discrimination masked in one form or another. But my point is that others feel either right, entitled or justified to believe otherwise... and it's not something easily undone in people's thought processes.
    Starfall wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    You are absolutely correct, but in the real world, people's notion and idea of marriage is that of religion..

    If you're referring to the fact that most people in this country are religious, then I can probably agree. But to make my point more blunt, remember that the vast majority of the population also opposed mixed race marriages before the Supreme Court affirmed that marriage was a "basic civil right" in Loving v Virginia (1967), and subsequently struck down all miscegenation laws.

    In fact, notice how the same arguments used against mixed race marriages are being used against gay marriages too.
    polaris_x wrote:
    great post and happy birthday!

    Thank you... I may not be young and pretty but thank goodness money can buy lap dances. :lol:
    CONservative governMENt

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  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    Exactly - there's a Federal Court challenge currently going on against California's odious Proposition 8 (which reversed a CA Supreme Court ruling to allow gay marriages). Let's hope we meet as much success there as with the Loving v Virginia case.
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,898
    Starfall wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    You are absolutely correct, but in the real world, people's notion and idea of marriage is that of religion..

    If you're referring to the fact that most people in this country are religious, then I can probably agree. But to make my point more blunt, remember that the vast majority of the population also opposed mixed race marriages before the Supreme Court affirmed that marriage was a "basic civil right" in Loving v Virginia (1967), and subsequently struck down all miscegenation laws.

    In fact, notice how the same arguments used against mixed race marriages are being used against gay marriages too.
    polaris_x wrote:
    great post and happy birthday!

    Thank you... I may not be young and pretty but thank goodness money can buy lap dances. :lol:

    Some good points here. I don't really get why anyone would be against gay marriage.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,898
    Starfall wrote:
    Exactly - there's a Federal Court challenge currently going on against California's odious Proposition 8 (which reversed a CA Supreme Court ruling to allow gay marriages). Let's hope we meet as much success there as with the Loving v Virginia case.


    Wait a minute...you live in san fran...you are defending gay marriage...just who are you getting your birthday lap dances from? ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I don't really get why anyone would be against gay marriage.


    this is why

    Godfather. wrote:
    it just seems so wrong...gay sex just turns my insides around.
  • _Crazy_Mary_
    _Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    I don't really want to start a war here or anything, but just wondering why someone opposes to people who love each other getting married.

    It makes no sense to me and I am hoping someone on here can enlighten me as to why someone would be opposed to this...I cannot speak for all, but for any who reply and feel that way I will not flame you or call you names, just really have never had a discussion about it with anyone who feels differently


    I believe in separation of church & state. I also believe that a wedding or marriage is a religious ceremony & shouldn't have anything to do with the government. It should be up to the church & not a legal matter at all.
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Starfall wrote:
    Exactly - there's a Federal Court challenge currently going on against California's odious Proposition 8 (which reversed a CA Supreme Court ruling to allow gay marriages). Let's hope we meet as much success there as with the Loving v Virginia case.


    Wait a minute...you live in san fran...you are defending gay marriage...just who are you getting your birthday lap dances from? ;)

    "Don't ask... don't tell" naughty.gif
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,898
    norm wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I don't really get why anyone would be against gay marriage.


    this is why

    Godfather. wrote:
    it just seems so wrong...gay sex just turns my insides around.

    Well it makes me sick to think about it to, but it doesn't hurt me (or anyone else for that matter) so have at it!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    cincybearcat wrote:
    norm wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I don't really get why anyone would be against gay marriage.


    this is why

    Godfather. wrote:
    it just seems so wrong...gay sex just turns my insides around.

    Well it makes me sick to think about it to, but it doesn't hurt me (or anyone else for that matter) so have at it!


    well i've never looked at a guys hairy ass and thought 'love' but that doesn't mean others can't partake ;)
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    norm wrote:

    well i've never looked at a guys hairy ass and thought 'love' but that doesn't mean others can't partake ;)

    Apparently though, women do for some reason... ;)
    So it's down to point of view I s'pose.

    Peace
    Dan
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  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    norm wrote:
    well i've never looked at a guys hairy ass and thought 'love' but that doesn't mean others can't penetrate ;)

    Fixed

    /runs
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    i thought you guys would like that :P :lol:
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Godfather. wrote:
    it just seems so wrong...gay sex just turns my insides around.
    To be honest... So do two fat people having sex...
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • michelleelise
    michelleelise Posts: 346
    edited April 2010
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    Apparently though, women do for some reason... ;)
    So it's down to point of view I s'pose.

    Peace
    Dan

    How cool are we? We are so much more accepting of these things than you guys :D
    Post edited by michelleelise on
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    it just seems so wrong...gay sex just turns my insides around.
    To be honest... So do two fat people having sex...

    Lemon Party? :lol:
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    cincybearcat wrote:

    Some good points here. I don't really get why anyone would be against gay marriage.
    senseless and ridiculous religious hatred... is why
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  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    Godfather. wrote:
    there are a few reasons I do not agree with it, one is my religious believes and the other is it just seems so wrong...gay sex just turns my insides around.

    I doubt that anybody here wants to think about you banging away at your fat girlfriend.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    there are a few reasons I do not agree with it, one is my religious believes and the other is it just seems so wrong...gay sex just turns my insides around.

    I doubt that anybody here wants to think about you banging away at your fat girlfriend.
    I'm gonna stand up for Godfather... Don't take personal shots at people...
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
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