Sry I don't believe in the Sound Garden hype

ScottandPearlJam

Although I am very happy about SG getting back together I don't think its going to be as big as everyone thinks.
I saw Alice in Chain a fews years ago at Jones Beach here in NY and the buzz about them was crazy....stadium was half empty.
STP same thing people were stoked and once again plenty of seats left.
Chris Cornell was doing Project Revolution 2 SUMMERS ago but when he was on stage crowd was very quiet except for BLACK HOLE SUN.
Yea you can put up the argument SG was bigger then all the above bands but unless they are playing festivals I don't see them selling out anyhting. Yes, I know selling out stadiums is not the point all I am saying the hype is good but will fizzle out fast.
Just my opinion

Scott

starmap3333

ka-poot

over bends

STP doesn't compare to Soundgarden, and "Alice n Chains a few years ago" quite frankly, isn't Alice N Chains. SG will do fine, imo.

Flagg

I could not care less about Soundgarden. I really couldn't. Not going to any of the shows. Not buying whatever new record they put out. Outside of a song or two, didn't like them in 1992. Don't like them now.

hopethatuchoke

over bends wrote:

STP doesn't compare to Soundgarden, and "Alice n Chains a few years ago" quite frankly, isn't Alice N Chains. SG will do fine, imo.

I disagree. At their peak, STP were playing arenas and selling them out. I don't think Soundgarden ever reached that status.

PJGARDEN

Cornell's voice sounds incredible right now. If his voice was in the shape it was 4-5 years ago I think a lot of people would be blowing off the whole thing. The way he sounds now these shows have the potential to be epic.

I don't think comparing them to STP or AIC is a fair comparison. AIC has a different singer. Scott Weiland is very hit or miss. I have a hard time believing the guys from Soundgarden are going to walk on stage with anything less than they're A game. So yeah, I'm pretty stoked.

Brisk.

This thread is full of fail.

Drum Machine89

Brisk. wrote:

This thread is full of fail.

Yes i agree Brisk! :x

scottstappsucks

It's Soundgarden not "Sound Garden." I'm pumped as hell about this reunion. Also STP's shows over the last 2 years have sold very well, I saw them in 2008 at the Hollywood Bowl and they sold it out, that holds 18,000 people. STP may have some shows that don't sell well but for the most part they're a hot touring act.

AIC don't play bigger venues because their original singer is dead and not with them. If Layne were alive I think they'd be playing bigger venues. Soundgarden I'd imagine playing venues that hold around 5-7k, I hope they do bigger ones and sell those out though.

Brisk.

scottstappsucks wrote:

It's Soundgarden not "Sound Garden." I'm pumped as hell about this reunion. Also STP's shows over the last 2 years have sold very well, I saw them in 2008 at the Hollywood Bowl and they sold it out, that holds 18,000 people. STP may have some shows that don't sell well but for the most part they're a hot touring act.

AIC don't play bigger venues because their original singer is dead and not with them. If Layne were alive I think they'd be playing bigger venues. Soundgarden I'd imagine playing venues that hold around 5-7k, I hope they do bigger ones and sell those out though.

thanks for typing what i couldn't be assed for!

Perfectly put.

DewieCox

Soundgarden is gonna bring it more on night to night basis than either of those band. I think they'd need another big name to sell arenas like they would need to. Maybe those SG/AIC rumors will happen.

I thought STP was playin mostly smaller places with solid attendance, and few sellouts. I saw a show in Louisville KY, less than 5k cap and not a sellout.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

only PJ can get the big crowds, but so what? i'd see Soundgarden if they came to town. not the biggest fan, but i like them ok.

rhcpjam1029

i could see soundgarden playing ampitheatres; especially if the rumoured tour is going to be in the late summer/fall.

DiRtyFranK38

this thread is asking for disaster.

i happen to love STP, AIC, and SG.
SG is EASILY my fav of the three though.

and first off, i saw stp twice when they first came back around and both times the shows were PACKED.
as far as your AIC comment, well remember, layne is dead. it's a different singer. that makes a HUGE difference in the size of the crowd.
SG will do perfectly fine.
i'm super stoked.

JOEJOEJOE

I'm not really an SG fan, but they broke up at the height of their popularity, and they never did anything to ruin their credibility. Of the bands mentioned (STP, AIC & SG), the SG reunion seems to be the most promising of the three. The new AIC isn't the old AIC, and STP were pretty much damaged goods when they fizzled-out.

Up Here In My Tree

hopethatuchoke wrote:

over bends wrote:

STP doesn't compare to Soundgarden, and "Alice n Chains a few years ago" quite frankly, isn't Alice N Chains. SG will do fine, imo.

I disagree. At their peak, STP were playing arenas and selling them out. I don't think Soundgarden ever reached that status.

And I disagree with you. I've seen Soundgarden at anywhere from 7-10 different sold out arenas. And not all in Seattle. Yea, STP sold more albums state side and world wide but not by much.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

seems like Soundgarden was the most forgotten of the Big 4 Seattle bands. maybe because they were a little harder (aka not chick friendly).

STP's albums got better with age. much better. too bad Scott had to fuck it all up.

i really think the name "Alice in Chains" will always be an albatross around that bands neck. they should have just changed it. or just call it The Jerry Cantrell Band, since thats basically what it is now.

Ricsard

Up Here In My Tree wrote:

hopethatuchoke wrote:

over bends wrote:

STP doesn't compare to Soundgarden, and "Alice n Chains a few years ago" quite frankly, isn't Alice N Chains. SG will do fine, imo.

I disagree. At their peak, STP were playing arenas and selling them out. I don't think Soundgarden ever reached that status.

And I disagree with you. I've seen Soundgarden at anywhere from 7-10 different sold out arenas. And not all in Seattle. Yea, STP sold more albums state side and world wide but not by much.

Well, I personally doubt that Stone Temple Pilots sold more albums worldwide, they have never had big popularity here in Europe (however I know not much about sales on other continents), if you ask me Soundgarden was always a bigger act in Europe and was considered a more authentic act.

mysticweed

I hinted at this once before, but especially with Kat and Sea monitering the sg forum combined with Matt's tenure w/ pj, ten club members should get first crack at sg tickets!!

mysticweed

MrSmith wrote:

seems like Soundgarden was the most forgotten of the Big 4 Seattle bands. maybe because they were a little harder (aka not chick friendly).

STP's albums got better with age. much better. too bad Scott had to fuck it all up.

i really think the name "Alice in Chains" will always be an albatross around that bands neck. they should have just changed it. or just call it The Jerry Cantrell Band, since thats basically what it is now.

I never understood that "not chick friendly" idea. I fucking love them, then and now. I am not, however, your average girly-girl chick.

Up Here In My Tree

I disagree. At their peak, STP were playing arenas and selling them out. I don't think Soundgarden ever reached that status.[/quote]

And I disagree with you. I've seen Soundgarden at anywhere from 7-10 different sold out arenas. And not all in Seattle. Yea, STP sold more albums state side and world wide but not by much.[/quote]

Well, I personally doubt that Stone Temple Pilots sold more albums worldwide, they have never had big popularity here in Europe (however I know not much about sales on other continents), if you ask me Soundgarden was always a bigger act in Europe and was considered a more authentic act.[/quote]

I actually looked it up before I posted. STP, while I've never been a fan, did sell more records both in the US and world wide than Soundgarden. Unfortunately. I've got all Soundgardens CD and none of STP's although I do have a Velvelt Revolver CD.

Ricsard

Up Here In My Tree wrote:

I actually looked it up before I posted. STP, while I've never been a fan, did sell more records both in the US and world wide than Soundgarden. Unfortunately. I've got all Soundgardens CD and none of STP's although I do have a Velvelt Revolver CD.

OK, I accept your research.
By the way I bought 6 Soundgarden cd-s/mc-s vs. 5 Stone Temple Pilots cd-s/mc-s (no VR though)
and as a matter of fact, yes, STP was more like a band with hits than SG!

dcfaithful

When PJ played SLC last September the E Center was nearly half empty... :?

ComeToTX

Yeah, I saw them on their last tour in '96. Good show. Always liked them but I never heard anyone wishing they would get back together. For those of you who are excited I am happy for you. If they come to Austin I wouldn't spend more than a few bucks to see them.

I always liked STP more too.

SomethingCreative

I can't believe this thread is on a Pearl Jam forum...seems like I should be looking at a fuckin Linkin Park forum or something

Lifted

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I'm not really an SG fan, but they broke up at the height of their popularity, and they never did anything to ruin their credibility. Of the bands mentioned (STP, AIC & SG), the SG reunion seems to be the most promising of the three. The new AIC isn't the old AIC, and STP were pretty much damaged goods when they fizzled-out.

while i agree with the jist of your analysis, one might argue that chris cornell ruined his own credibility with his solo work, especially that last album with timberland. i know it's not the bands fault, but he is the face of the band is he not?.......personally i've never really been a fan of soundgarden, although i'm not a hater either. i do think this is really cool for soundgarden fans though, and i don't understand the point in starting a thread to imply that the reunion will be a failure.

JaneNY

I'm delighted they're touring. We're seeing them at Lolla. In the 90's my kids were tiny and I couldn't go to any shows.

Poor Mad Sailor

ScottandPearlJam wrote:

Although I am very happy about SG getting back together I don't think its going to be as big as everyone thinks.
I saw Alice in Chain a fews years ago at Jones Beach here in NY and the buzz about them was crazy....stadium was half empty.
STP same thing people were stoked and once again plenty of seats left.
Chris Cornell was doing Project Revolution 2 SUMMERS ago but when he was on stage crowd was very quiet except for BLACK HOLE SUN.
Yea you can put up the argument SG was bigger then all the above bands but unless they are playing festivals I don't see them selling out anyhting. Yes, I know selling out stadiums is not the point all I am saying the hype is good but will fizzle out fast.
Just my opinion

Scott

I hear what you are saying BUT I went to see AIC in November 2009 at the HMV Forum (London) and the atmosphere was fantastic and the place was absolutely heaving; admittedly it is a smaller venue. Festivals or smaller venues are definitely the way to go when relaunching your career-IMO.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

i've been rediscovering Superunknown lately. awesome album. im not a huge fan, especially of the earlier stuff, but that album is a classic.

Brisk.

Superunknown gets so much hype, Badmotorfinger craps all over it, SU drags on a bit if you ask me.

RiotAct10

I guess I am someone else not that excited about the reunion. I mean, it would be cool to see them, and I would go if it was free or like $30 or less, but otherwise, probably not. I was actually a bigger Audioslave fan than I am of SG. Basically I only enjoy SG's singles. Part of it might be because I really didnt get into PJ until 1998 when I was in 7th grade, and by then SG had already broken up, which is too bad, because I enjoy their last two albums way more than their other stuff, so they might have been heading in a good direction.

I saw someone on Facebook reply to a friends status about Lollapalooza with something about how "Soundgarden hasn't headlined anything since like 1996" and he was not being sarcastic. I didnt say anything, but of course I wanted to say something like, "maybe thats because they broke up in 1997 you jackass."