because there is like 30 million people in the metro area....more people means more pj fans
also means bigger odds for different bands to become ultra popular
im looking for the deeper connection
What's your take on it?
I FIRST HEARD jeremy in the back seat of my brother's car when it first broke and was mesmerized by the words
i guess i was at that stage in my life where the album just struck a nerve in numerous ways
my friends were into them for a few years but slowly swung over to the cRAP world ( kinda funny because they are all calling me up asking for MSG tickets )
honestly i really think my obsession stems from the fact that i didn't have many chances to see them till 96
i wasn't a member of the fanclub when they did the paramount in 94.. 2 weeks later i was
my hunger built and built until that faithful randalls island weekend and then THE SHIT HIT THE FAN
HOW CAN ONE NOT BE OBSESSED WITH A BAND THAT PUTS ON A SHOW LIKE THAT
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
All of the above, and we're a more concentrated area in terms of population density. Love breeds love - you love Pearl Jam, and if you're in the Northeast you're probably going to get to see your band relatively frequently if you make some effort, without having to fly. The more you see them, the more you love them, sweep up other people in your wake, drag them along with you and it just cascades. The less lucky people that live in less population dense areas don't have as easy time to see PJ as we do, so they might love the band, but over time it might erode due to lack of being able to see them without much more effort. (Not speaking for anyone here, this is just speculation)
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All of the above, and we're a more concentrated area in terms of population density. Love breeds love - you love Pearl Jam, and if you're in the Northeast you're probably going to get to see your band relatively frequently if you make some effort, without having to fly. The more you see them, the more you love them, sweep up other people in your wake, drag them along with you and it just cascades. The less lucky people that live in less population dense areas don't have as easy time to see PJ as we do, so they might love the band, but over time it might erode due to lack of being able to see them without much more effort. (Not speaking for anyone here, this is just speculation)
I AGREE WITH making others obsessed because i'am obsessed
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
All of the above, and we're a more concentrated area in terms of population density. Love breeds love - you love Pearl Jam, and if you're in the Northeast you're probably going to get to see your band relatively frequently if you make some effort, without having to fly. The more you see them, the more you love them, sweep up other people in your wake, drag them along with you and it just cascades. The less lucky people that live in less population dense areas don't have as easy time to see PJ as we do, so they might love the band, but over time it might erode due to lack of being able to see them without much more effort. (Not speaking for anyone here, this is just speculation)
And big PJ fans breed little PJ fans. My six year old is asking when he can come to a show with his father and me. I was 7 months pregnant for him in '03 when we saw them in Mansfield. It's in his blood.
i also hate to say it buts its also about RELIGION ..........
people now are numb to it but back in thelate 80's early 90's IN THE MIDWEST you couldnt play anything on the radio unless the churches said it was ok ... HELL WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CHANGED THE JEREMY VIDEO???? its sad but its true .. the middle of the country is very religious and they forced it onto there kids ..the kids had no say in life back in the 80's-90's .. NOW PLACE YOURSELF IN NYC in the 80'-90's nobody gave a shit about anything ... black brown white gay straight .....alot more room FOR PERSONAL EXPRESSION ..famlies didnt push there kids into churches etc etc .. hell the ones that did came out laughing at what they learned .. i myself went to a public school in the late 80's early 90's but i have about 6 friends and a girlfriend who went to catholic school there entire life and now joke about the church ......
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just stating what have noticed in my 33 years of living on the earth
i also hate to say it buts its also about RELIGION ..........
people now are numb to it but back in thelate 80's early 90's IN THE MIDWEST you couldnt play anything on the radio unless the churches said it was ok ... HELL WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CHANGED THE JEREMY VIDEO???? its sad but its true .. the middle of the country is very religious and they forced it onto there kids ..the kids had no say in life back in the 80's-90's .. NOW PLACE YOURSELF IN NYC in the 80'-90's nobody gave a shit about anything ... black brown white gay straight .....alot more room FOR PERSONAL EXPRESSION ..famlies didnt push there kids into churches etc etc .. hell the ones that did came out laughing at what they learned .. i myself went to a public school in the late 80's early 90's but i have about 6 friends and a girlfriend who went to catholic school there entire life and now joke about the church ......
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just stating what have noticed in my 33 years of living on the earth
Pearl Jam, like Springsteen, is blue collar music. Big city, blue collar areas, like Philly, gravitate towards that type of music. Not just the lyrics, but the style of music. But, the lyrics are also semi-blue collar. I'd say in Philly, there are a few bands/artists played for that reason...
Springsteen
Bon Jovi (yea, I'm not a fan either)
Pearl Jam
One thing in common, blue collar-themed music.
Also, and probably equally important, towns like Philly, New York, Boston ect.... lead. They don't follow the new-age rock crap trap. They stick with what works. In Philly, we have three rock stations... all of which, play Pearl Jam.
the NYC metro area by itself supports many different types of music-simply due to the sheer numbers of people
even country is becoming popular in the city
its a quantitative conclusion, there is no qualitative variable involved-other than the high quality shows frequently played in the northeast-but that is not necessarily unique to the northeast
the only qualitative variable that comes to mind is the high number of competitive colleges and universities in the Northeast, along with an higher incidence of adults holding advanced degrees-boston, NYC, philly and DC have educated listeners-but Im not so sure that really matters as far as pearl jam is concerned
the NYC metro area by itself supports many different types of music-simply due to the sheer numbers of people
even country is becoming popular in the city
its a quantitative conclusion, there is no qualitative variable involved-other than the high quality shows frequently played in the northeast-but that is not necessarily unique to the northeast
the only qualitative variable that comes to mind is the high number of competitive colleges and universities in the Northeast, along with an higher incidence of adults holding advanced degrees-boston, NYC, philly and DC have educated listeners-but Im not so sure that really matters as far as pearl jam is concerned
agreed.
i think it's #s pure and simple as well.
and it doesn't matter where a band is from, music is everywhere, it's universal....so it just makes sense that just about ANY band that has gotten big at any point in time, would still be able to preform in the NE to some sold out shows. there's just so damn many of us! also, i am sure $$$ comes into play, and while sure the recession has hit us all, perhaps the NE in general fares better, not as high unemployment, perhaps better education #s....that idk, just talkin' out my arse now .....just a few guesses to the longevity/popularity of many bands being able to fill concerts in the NE, period.
that's all it is....like asking why are there so FEW fans in Wyoming? (I know of TWO! )
If I had known then what I know now...
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Hell yeah! I would of thought Pearl Jam tour's cities/places where fans/shoppers spend more of the Pearl Jam goodies. Surprised Halifax hasn't got them this year. I must be doing something wrong!
I think it is a lot of things that have been mentioned (population, working class people interested in good stuff and rocking out) but I think an additional significant factor is climate. Cold winters hole us up and PJ gives us strength. we work hard in the cold rain and snow. We are sore. We want a drink a smoke and some Pearl Jam to keep us moving as the frost creeps through the window. Then in the summer we like to be as free as we can be with the music loud and elevating.
As the world warms PJ will lose fans in the North East - you watch
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There you have it!!!!!!!!!
I FIRST HEARD jeremy in the back seat of my brother's car when it first broke and was mesmerized by the words
i guess i was at that stage in my life where the album just struck a nerve in numerous ways
my friends were into them for a few years but slowly swung over to the cRAP world ( kinda funny because they are all calling me up asking for MSG tickets )
honestly i really think my obsession stems from the fact that i didn't have many chances to see them till 96
i wasn't a member of the fanclub when they did the paramount in 94.. 2 weeks later i was
my hunger built and built until that faithful randalls island weekend and then THE SHIT HIT THE FAN
HOW CAN ONE NOT BE OBSESSED WITH A BAND THAT PUTS ON A SHOW LIKE THAT
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
I AGREE WITH making others obsessed because i'am obsessed
And big PJ fans breed little PJ fans. My six year old is asking when he can come to a show with his father and me. I was 7 months pregnant for him in '03 when we saw them in Mansfield. It's in his blood.
people now are numb to it but back in thelate 80's early 90's IN THE MIDWEST you couldnt play anything on the radio unless the churches said it was ok ... HELL WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CHANGED THE JEREMY VIDEO???? its sad but its true .. the middle of the country is very religious and they forced it onto there kids ..the kids had no say in life back in the 80's-90's .. NOW PLACE YOURSELF IN NYC in the 80'-90's nobody gave a shit about anything ... black brown white gay straight .....alot more room FOR PERSONAL EXPRESSION ..famlies didnt push there kids into churches etc etc .. hell the ones that did came out laughing at what they learned .. i myself went to a public school in the late 80's early 90's but i have about 6 friends and a girlfriend who went to catholic school there entire life and now joke about the church ......
****** DONT TAKE ANY OF THIS THE WRONG WAY ... I RESPECT EVERYONES BELIEFS **********
just stating what have noticed in my 33 years of living on the earth
so no need to attack me ...
good point, well said
THIS!
Blue Collar
Pearl Jam, like Springsteen, is blue collar music. Big city, blue collar areas, like Philly, gravitate towards that type of music. Not just the lyrics, but the style of music. But, the lyrics are also semi-blue collar. I'd say in Philly, there are a few bands/artists played for that reason...
Springsteen
Bon Jovi (yea, I'm not a fan either)
Pearl Jam
One thing in common, blue collar-themed music.
Also, and probably equally important, towns like Philly, New York, Boston ect.... lead. They don't follow the new-age rock crap trap. They stick with what works. In Philly, we have three rock stations... all of which, play Pearl Jam.
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really
the NYC metro area by itself supports many different types of music-simply due to the sheer numbers of people
even country is becoming popular in the city
its a quantitative conclusion, there is no qualitative variable involved-other than the high quality shows frequently played in the northeast-but that is not necessarily unique to the northeast
the only qualitative variable that comes to mind is the high number of competitive colleges and universities in the Northeast, along with an higher incidence of adults holding advanced degrees-boston, NYC, philly and DC have educated listeners-but Im not so sure that really matters as far as pearl jam is concerned
agreed.
i think it's #s pure and simple as well.
and it doesn't matter where a band is from, music is everywhere, it's universal....so it just makes sense that just about ANY band that has gotten big at any point in time, would still be able to preform in the NE to some sold out shows. there's just so damn many of us! also, i am sure $$$ comes into play, and while sure the recession has hit us all, perhaps the NE in general fares better, not as high unemployment, perhaps better education #s....that idk, just talkin' out my arse now .....just a few guesses to the longevity/popularity of many bands being able to fill concerts in the NE, period.
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You guys are denser!
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doesn't say much for pearl jam then, eh?
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that's all it is....like asking why are there so FEW fans in Wyoming? (I know of TWO! )
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Hell yeah! I would of thought Pearl Jam tour's cities/places where fans/shoppers spend more of the Pearl Jam goodies. Surprised Halifax hasn't got them this year. I must be doing something wrong!
yea the band plays here for that reason , but we still had to arrive in this region
As the world warms PJ will lose fans in the North East - you watch