Can Obama ever give a direct answer to a question ?

rebornFixer

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

rebornFixer wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

if anyone would ever read their history, in the US throughout our entire history if you have any african blood in you you were legally considered "black". so no he should not have answered "other"...stop grasping at straws and putting your opinion on technicalities...

Which is itself interesting ... I've never understood why one has to be 100% European to be "white".

back in early american history blacks were not even considered a whole person. they were by law considered 3/5 of a person and if they were slaves they were considered the property of whatever nobleman owned them. they were not allowed the vote, to hold public office, or even own land. if anyone had anything other than europeon blood in them they were considered "black"...even if you had a great great grandmother who was of african decent you were considered "black".

Oh, I understand the "logic". Now we continue to reap the stupidity of this sort of old school racist thinking, though. Back then, it was good to be "white". Now, its "not good" and if you've got some other ancestry as well, that apparently trumps your whiteness, especially if you're Obama and some on the right hate you for your blackness while others on the left laud you for the same trait. The whole thing gives me a headache. Why can't he just be Obama?

catefrances

rebornFixer wrote:

Oh, I understand the "logic". Now we continue to reap the stupidity of this sort of old school racist thinking, though. Back then, it was good to be "white". Now, its "not good" and if you've got some other ancestry as well, that apparently trumps your whiteness, especially if you're Obama and some on the right hate you for your blackness while others on the left laud you for the same trait. The whole thing gives me a headache. Why can't he just be Obama?

cause with a middle name like that hes gotta be a terrorist.

Godfather.

found this,it's opinion but interesting.

Godfather.



http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20100 ... 100229854/

Barack Obama has awakened a sleeping nation
Gary Hubbell
Aspen Times Weekly


Barack Obama is the best thing that has happened to America in the last 100 years. Truly, he is the savior of America 's future. He is the best thing ever.

Despite the fact that he has some of the lowest approval ratings among recent presidents, history will see Barack Obama as the source of America 's resurrection. Barack Obama has plunged the country into levels of debt that we could not have previously imagined; his efforts to nationalize health care have been met with fierce resistance nationwide; TARP bailouts and stimulus spending have shown little positive effect on the national economy; unemployment is unacceptably high and looks to remain that way for most of a decade; legacy entitlement programs have ballooned to unsustainable levels, and there is a seething anger in the populace.

That's why Barack Obama is such a good thing for America .

Obama is the symbol of a creeping liberalism that has infected our society like a cancer for the last 100 years. Just as Hitler is the face of fascism, Obama will go down in history as the face of unchecked liberalism. The cancer metastasized to the point where it could no longer be ignored.

Average Americans who have quietly gone about their lives, earning a paycheck, contributing to their favorite charities, going to high school football games on Friday night, spending their weekends at the beach or on hunting trips - they've gotten off the fence. They've woken up. There is a level of political activism in this country that we haven't seen since the American Revolution, and Barack Obama has been the catalyst that has sparked a restructuring of the American political and social consciousness.

Think of the crap we've slowly learned to tolerate over the past 50 years as liberalism sought to re-structure the America that was the symbol of freedom and liberty to all the people of the world. Immigration laws were ignored on the basis of compassion. Welfare policies encouraged irresponsibility, the fracturing of families, and a cycle of generations of dependency. Debt was regarded as a tonic to lubricate the economy. Our children left school having been taught that they are exceptional and special, while great numbers of them cannot perform basic functions of mathematics and literacy. Legislators decided that people could not be trusted to defend their own homes, and stripped citizens of their rights to own firearms. Productive members of society have been penalized with a heavy burden of taxes in order to support legions of do-nothings who loll around, reveling in their addictions, obesity, indolence, ignorance and "disabilities." Criminals have been arrested and re-arrested, coddled and set free to pillage the citizenry yet again. Lawyers routinely extort fortunes from doctors, contractors and business people with dubious torts.

We slowly learned to tolerate these outrages, shaking our heads in disbelief, and we went on with our lives.

But Barack Obama has ripped the lid off a seething cauldron of dissatisfaction and unrest.

In the time of Barack Obama, Black Panther members stand outside polling places in black commando uniforms, slapping truncheons into their palms. ACORN - a taxpayer-supported organization - is given a role in taking the census, even after its members were caught on tape offering advice to set up child prostitution rings. A former Communist is given a paid government position in the White House as an advisor to the president. Auto companies are taken over by the government, and the auto workers' union - whose contracts are completely insupportable in any economic sense - is rewarded with a stake in the company. Government bails out Wall Street investment bankers and insurance companies, who pay their executives outrageous bonuses as thanks for the public support. Terrorists are read their Miranda rights and given free lawyers. And, despite overwhelming public disapproval, Barack Obama has pushed forward with a health care plan that would re-structure one-sixth of the American economy.

I don't know about you, but the other day I was at the courthouse doing some business, and I stepped into the court clerk's office and changed my voter affiliation from "Independent" to "Republican." I am under no illusion that the Republican party is perfect, but at least they're starting to awaken to the fact that we cannot sustain massive levels of debt; we cannot afford to hand out billions of dollars in corporate subsidies; we have to somehow trim our massive entitlement programs; we can no longer be the world's policeman and dole out billions in aid to countries whose citizens seek to harm us.

Literally millions of Americans have had enough. They're organizing, they're studying the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, they're reading history and case law, they're showing up at rallies and meetings, and a slew of conservative candidates are throwing their hats into the ring. Is there a revolution brewing? Yes, in the sense that there is a keen awareness that our priorities and sensibilities must be radically re-structured. Will it be a violent revolution? No. It will be done through the interpretation of the original document that has guided us for 220 years - the Constitution. Just as the pendulum swung to embrace political correctness and liberalism, there will be a backlash, a complete repudiation of a hundred years of nonsense. A hundred years from now, history will perceive the year 2010 as the time when America got back on the right track. And for that, we can thank Barack Hussein Obama.

Gary Hubbell is a hunter, rancher, and former hunting and fly-fishing guide. Gary works as a Colorado ranch real estate broker. He can be reached through his website,aspenranchrealestate.com.

inmytree

prfctlefts wrote:

http://threefingersofpolitics.com/
First he says he was a south side kid
then he says when he was a kid in Hawaii he was an Oakland A's fan
(But He was 24 when he moved to chicago) so is that still considered a kid ? I guees so since you can now stay on your parents insurance policy until you are 26.


Her's another one: El Presedente Obama He gives a 17 minute answer to a simple queston.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fo1aTwO ... re=related

yeah, I guess we'd better off if we had this back:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm

haffajappa

This just in, Obama can't decide whether he wants chicken salad or pbj sandwiches for lunch.



Where is your country heading?!

mysticweed

Pepe Silvia wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

It depends on what matters to you as a person. I know it's probably trivial to you,but I would expect that from you.( with all due respect)
The man can't give a direct answer to a direct question that's all Im saying.
I think it says a lot about him.

that's pretty much any politician

That is exactly what I was thinking. Bullshit and spin and bullshit and spin. SHOW us something.

Pepe Silvia

Godfather. wrote:

found this,it's opinion but interesting.

Godfather.



http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20100 ... 100229854/

Barack Obama has awakened a sleeping nation
Gary Hubbell
Aspen Times Weekly

i hoped something similar would happen before the election. the people that supported him would be let down when he failed to follow through or even try to enact the promises he campaigned for nearly 4 years on and when he continues many of the bush administration's policies so many were so against.

and then they'd realize us politics is a scam and there's no reason for them to change when so many are so willing to give them a free pass just because they aren't the other team/party and they may do some bad things but at least he's not like that other guy!

sadly while many have and will come to see that i think there's still too many who will just rationalize it. i love when huge obama supporters yell 'at least he hasn't started any new wars!!' uhhhh, he has started bombing pakistan and displaced millions right before winter and then they just shut up. it's sad to see some of the people who railed so hard against things like the patriot act, extraordinary rendition, secret, closed door meetings with industries about to be regulated for 'national security' (because we all know if iran were to find out what obama's regulatory czar discussed with the coal industry over their regulations it'd be the end of us!!!), prolonging and escalating wars, nuclear energy, far more subsisides to things like oil, coal and nuclear than non polluting means, illegal surveillance....to see them now shrug it off or even accept them now.

as long as the corporate oligarchy has so many supporters among the populace who don't bother with any sort of accountability nothing will change

Godfather.

government is full of people with selfish agendas with no concern for the public unless there is something in it for them and the people that do have honest motives are blasted by the media as cheats and lacking moral fiber,it all boils down to money and power..the golden rule. IMO.

Godfather.

inmytree

Godfather. wrote:

government is full of people with selfish agendas with no concern for the public unless there is something in it for them and the people that do have honest motives are blasted by the media as cheats and lacking moral fiber,it all boils down to money and power..the golden rule. IMO.

Godfather.

the world is full of people with selfish agendas with no concern for others...

people are people...sadly...

KDH12

Godfather. wrote:

found this,it's opinion but interesting.

Godfather.



http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20100 ... 100229854/

Barack Obama has awakened a sleeping nation
Gary Hubbell
Aspen Times Weekly


Barack Obama is the best thing that has happened to America in the last 100 years. Truly, he is the savior of America 's future. He is the best thing ever.

Despite the fact that he has some of the lowest approval ratings among recent presidents, history will see Barack Obama as the source of America 's resurrection. Barack Obama has plunged the country into levels of debt that we could not have previously imagined; his efforts to nationalize health care have been met with fierce resistance nationwide; TARP bailouts and stimulus spending have shown little positive effect on the national economy; unemployment is unacceptably high and looks to remain that way for most of a decade; legacy entitlement programs have ballooned to unsustainable levels, and there is a seething anger in the populace.

That's why Barack Obama is such a good thing for America .

Obama is the symbol of a creeping liberalism that has infected our society like a cancer for the last 100 years. Just as Hitler is the face of fascism, Obama will go down in history as the face of unchecked liberalism. The cancer metastasized to the point where it could no longer be ignored.

Average Americans who have quietly gone about their lives, earning a paycheck, contributing to their favorite charities, going to high school football games on Friday night, spending their weekends at the beach or on hunting trips - they've gotten off the fence. They've woken up. There is a level of political activism in this country that we haven't seen since the American Revolution, and Barack Obama has been the catalyst that has sparked a restructuring of the American political and social consciousness.

Think of the crap we've slowly learned to tolerate over the past 50 years as liberalism sought to re-structure the America that was the symbol of freedom and liberty to all the people of the world. Immigration laws were ignored on the basis of compassion. Welfare policies encouraged irresponsibility, the fracturing of families, and a cycle of generations of dependency. Debt was regarded as a tonic to lubricate the economy. Our children left school having been taught that they are exceptional and special, while great numbers of them cannot perform basic functions of mathematics and literacy. Legislators decided that people could not be trusted to defend their own homes, and stripped citizens of their rights to own firearms. Productive members of society have been penalized with a heavy burden of taxes in order to support legions of do-nothings who loll around, reveling in their addictions, obesity, indolence, ignorance and "disabilities." Criminals have been arrested and re-arrested, coddled and set free to pillage the citizenry yet again. Lawyers routinely extort fortunes from doctors, contractors and business people with dubious torts.

We slowly learned to tolerate these outrages, shaking our heads in disbelief, and we went on with our lives.

But Barack Obama has ripped the lid off a seething cauldron of dissatisfaction and unrest.

In the time of Barack Obama, Black Panther members stand outside polling places in black commando uniforms, slapping truncheons into their palms. ACORN - a taxpayer-supported organization - is given a role in taking the census, even after its members were caught on tape offering advice to set up child prostitution rings. A former Communist is given a paid government position in the White House as an advisor to the president. Auto companies are taken over by the government, and the auto workers' union - whose contracts are completely insupportable in any economic sense - is rewarded with a stake in the company. Government bails out Wall Street investment bankers and insurance companies, who pay their executives outrageous bonuses as thanks for the public support. Terrorists are read their Miranda rights and given free lawyers. And, despite overwhelming public disapproval, Barack Obama has pushed forward with a health care plan that would re-structure one-sixth of the American economy.

I don't know about you, but the other day I was at the courthouse doing some business, and I stepped into the court clerk's office and changed my voter affiliation from "Independent" to "Republican." I am under no illusion that the Republican party is perfect, but at least they're starting to awaken to the fact that we cannot sustain massive levels of debt; we cannot afford to hand out billions of dollars in corporate subsidies; we have to somehow trim our massive entitlement programs; we can no longer be the world's policeman and dole out billions in aid to countries whose citizens seek to harm us.

Literally millions of Americans have had enough. They're organizing, they're studying the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, they're reading history and case law, they're showing up at rallies and meetings, and a slew of conservative candidates are throwing their hats into the ring. Is there a revolution brewing? Yes, in the sense that there is a keen awareness that our priorities and sensibilities must be radically re-structured. Will it be a violent revolution? No. It will be done through the interpretation of the original document that has guided us for 220 years - the Constitution. Just as the pendulum swung to embrace political correctness and liberalism, there will be a backlash, a complete repudiation of a hundred years of nonsense. A hundred years from now, history will perceive the year 2010 as the time when America got back on the right track. And for that, we can thank Barack Hussein Obama.

Gary Hubbell is a hunter, rancher, and former hunting and fly-fishing guide. Gary works as a Colorado ranch real estate broker. He can be reached through his website,aspenranchrealestate.com.

his approval ratings aren't that bad, I think last I heard it was around 42% and better then the Republican Caucus

maybe lower then most presidents in the first few years of their first term but look at the state of the country when he took office..... Jesus would have low approval ratings in this mess

musicismylife78

have you ever heard of a president or strike that, a politician, an elected official give a direct answer to a question? I am no obama fan, i didnt vote for the guy and think he is the same mold as everyone else, but he was packaged and sold to the american people as being different, but obama is not unique. I love how alot of people are furious in that they feel a president is lying to them. How is that different from every single president in our nations history?

To me, electoral politics is boring and useless. to expect some multimillionaire politician be they from midland or from chicago, or from wherever, to fix or to care about the problems of the everyman the common man is absolutely insane and has no basis in reality. yes i wish it were the case, but obama owes us nothing, or feels like he owes us nothing. we didnt fund his campaign. corporations did. he doesnt interact with the common man. how often do you think he personally meets and greets and listens to a widow of a soldier who died in the iraq and afghanistan wars? How often has he personally been to soldier funerals? How often do you think he personally comes into contact with people, who cant afford to live in their homes anymore and have lost their jobs?

The problem with the current activist scene, is the desire to change the system from within. change has never come from within the system its always come from pissed off, largely poor, largely people of color, who cant take it any longer and want things to change.

if you are waiting around for obama or any other politician to give you the time of day or to care one iota about you are anyone else, you are gonna be waiting a long long time.

musicismylife78

his approval ratings aren't that bad, I think last I heard it was around 42% and better then the Republican Caucus

maybe lower then most presidents in the first few years of their first term but look at the state of the country when he took office..... Jesus would have low approval ratings in this mess[/quote]


The whole approval thing is valuable but skewed. Who are they asking in terms of approval ratings? Is it likely voters? Registered voters? The point is, every election cycle half the country doesnt vote. thats 150 million people at least. it always pisses me off when people say "oh bush got 50 percent of the vote" "kerry got 49 percent". No thats inaccurate. Kerry got 49 percent of 50 percent. thats nothing. its amazing no one talks about that. people wonder why the countries so split. that could be a part of it. a president that is elected with 51 percent of 50 percent of the nation? outrageous. again electoral politics is ridiculous.

Starfall

Godfather. wrote:

found this,it's opinion but interesting.

Godfather.

Sadly, it's also chock full of lies.

WaveCameCrashin

Oh really?
Please do tell. I'm really curious to why you think this is chock full of lies

TriumphantAngel

Gary Hubbell: The Redneck tree hugger
Barack Obama has awakened a sleeping nation
Gary Hubbell
Aspen Times Weekly


when you pasted the link, why did you post everything but leave the redneck tree hugger bit out?

that's not very nice. redneck tree huggers have feelings too.

gimmesometruth27

TriumphantAngel wrote:

Gary Hubbell: The Redneck tree hugger
Barack Obama has awakened a sleeping nation
Gary Hubbell
Aspen Times Weekly


when you pasted the link, why did you post everything but leave the redneck tree hugger bit out?

that's not very nice. redneck tree huggers have feelings too.

busted...

Johnnyguitarwatson

musicismylife78 wrote:

have you ever heard of a president or strike that, a politician, an elected official give a direct answer to a question? I am no obama fan, i didnt vote for the guy and think he is the same mold as everyone else, but he was packaged and sold to the american people as being different, but obama is not unique. I love how alot of people are furious in that they feel a president is lying to them. How is that different from every single president in our nations history?

To me, electoral politics is boring and useless. to expect some multimillionaire politician be they from midland or from chicago, or from wherever, to fix or to care about the problems of the everyman the common man is absolutely insane and has no basis in reality. yes i wish it were the case, but obama owes us nothing, or feels like he owes us nothing. we didnt fund his campaign. corporations did. he doesnt interact with the common man. how often do you think he personally meets and greets and listens to a widow of a soldier who died in the iraq and afghanistan wars? How often has he personally been to soldier funerals? How often do you think he personally comes into contact with people, who cant afford to live in their homes anymore and have lost their jobs?


Bravo ! I couldnt agree with you more. Great
post Brother

The problem with the current activist scene, is the desire to change the system from within. change has never come from within the system its always come from pissed off, largely poor, largely people of color, who cant take it any longer and want things to change.

if you are waiting around for obama or any other politician to give you the time of day or to care one iota about you are anyone else, you are gonna be waiting a long long time.

Godfather.

TriumphantAngel wrote:

Gary Hubbell: The Redneck tree hugger
Barack Obama has awakened a sleeping nation
Gary Hubbell
Aspen Times Weekly


when you pasted the link, why did you post everything but leave the redneck tree hugger bit out?

that's not very nice. redneck tree huggers have feelings too.

Im not sure there is such things as redneck tree huggers Believe me I have known a lot of rednecks and
not one of them are a tree hugger.

Godfather.

Godfather.

inmytree wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

government is full of people with selfish agendas with no concern for the public unless there is something in it for them and the people that do have honest motives are blasted by the media as cheats and lacking moral fiber,it all boils down to money and power..the golden rule. IMO.

Godfather.

the world is full of people with selfish agendas with no concern for others...

people are people...sadly...

must be what causes war's and breeds politician's

Godfather.

Starfall

prfctlefts wrote:

Oh really?
Please do tell. I'm really curious to why you think this is chock full of lies

Where do I start? Maybe from the beginning?

Despite the fact that he has some of the lowest approval ratings among recent presidents
Uh...really?.

Barack Obama has plunged the country into levels of debt that we could not have previously imagined
Again, someone forgot about the last guy in office. Not to mention that Obama wouldn't have had to spend for stimulus had the previous tenant not trashed the place.

his efforts to nationalize health care have been met with fierce resistance nationwide
How the hell was he supposedly trying to "nationalize health care" when he didn't write the legislation, and the actual legislation didn't produce things like a public option, a Medicare buy in, a national insurance exchange, or any such stuff?

TARP bailouts and stimulus spending have shown little positive effect on the national economy
Uh... the last President signed the TARP. Obama didn't write the stimulus bill, and if the stimulus wasn't strong enough, I blame that on the Republican obstructionism to reduce actual stimulus (like infrastructure spending) and heap more on tax cuts (which have minimal stimulus impact).

... I'm really not in the mood to go line by line to refute all that nonsense. I think I made my point.