Tea Baggers who want smaller gov and less gov spending....
aNiMaL
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Where were you during the GW administration? I find it funny to say the least that you are now, all of a sudden, out rallying against gov spending.
I am going to go ahead and say that a good MAJORITY of the tea baggers are RACIST. Seriously, what other reason could there be to be flying a Confederate flag with a tea bag hanging from your sun glasses?
I am going to go ahead and say that a good MAJORITY of the tea baggers are RACIST. Seriously, what other reason could there be to be flying a Confederate flag with a tea bag hanging from your sun glasses?
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The people need to stand up to this government sometime, just happens to be now instead of a few years ago. And I don't think it really matters who is in Washington. I'm sure when Obamas time is up the Tea Party will still be around. My question is, how many of these anti tea partiers (liberals, democrats, etc.) are going to join the party when there's a republican in the White House?
Good post.
It doesn't surprise me to see the race card played so early (and so poorly) in this administration's tenure though.
i'm not sure what you mean ... but america is racist ... obviously not everyone but the reality is that many americans are indeed racists ... denying this fact or turning a blind eye to it will not help ... racism is ignorance and there is a lot of it when it comes to many things ...
Please...there is racism everywhere, and to deny that you are living in a dream world.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
uhhh ... what's your point? ... the topic is with regards to the tea party who are politically active in the US ...
Why don't some of you people put your money where your mouth is and go to a tea party and proove it. Oh and further more Andrew Breitbart Said this"
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/201 ... the-shark/
It’s time for the allegedly pristine character of Rep. John Lewis to put up or shut up. Therefore, I am offering $10,000 of my own money to provide hard evidence that the N- word was hurled at him not 15 times, as his colleague reported, but just once. Surely one of those two cameras wielded by members of his entourage will prove his point.
And surely if those cameras did not capture such abhorrence, then someone from the mainstream media — those who printed and broadcast his assertions without any reasonable questioning or investigation — must themselves surely have it on camera. Of course we already know they don’t. If they did, you’d have seen it by now.
THOUSANDS OF TIMES.
Rep. Lewis, if you can’t do that, I’ll give him a backup plan: a lie detector test. If you provide verifiable video evidence showing that a single racist epithet was hurled as you walked among the tea partiers, or you pass a simple lie detector test, I will provide a $10K check to the United Negro College Fund.
your obsession with the "Left" is truly fascinating ... i mean - really, the people you SHOULD be courting are lefties and true progressives ... they are the ones that have been fighting corrupt gov't and kickbacks to corporations before you guys came along ...
you toss around "Left" all the time and I really don't think you know what that means ... i mean - i'm a lefty (maybe a bit west of left) and i want honest/transparent governance, a peaceful sustainable planet and equality for all ... what do you hate about that?
remember - democrats are not Left ... obama is NOT left ... those guys are centrists at most ...
Oh your so cool. :roll:
When you can't agree you smear the other person.
And Im even sicker of this crap. and the where were you when ? What damn difference does it make where some of us were? It's better late than never that Americans are waking up. Not only that Obama is spending and doing things that make bush look like a conservative and I don't hear a damn word about it from the left,at least not on this board. All you leftist,Progressives are being very hypocritical when it comes to political dissent.Its all good until you dissagree on the issues. We are in a place right now and are more divided than ever before,and I truly believe that this is what Obama is trying to do to this country.
Dude Obama is not a centrist Ok? I don't know what the hell you are smoking up there. I know you guys get good bud up there but DAMN.. Are you even paying attention to all things that he's done just in the last year.
:roll:
I know what left means..
I really think you need to check your political compass when it comes to left and right. I will submit to you that yes both parties are corrupt,but the dems are in control right now. That's wahy we have to get real conservatives back in both houses and get rid of the J. Mcains and the LIndsey Ghrams of the republican party.
obama is NOT left ... Kucinich would be classified as left ... and he's been pretty much against most of what Obama has done and is doing ...
tell me what left means to you ...
Huh? When did I say there was no racism in America? In fact, throwing out the race card at every turn does nothing but keep racism alive because people become afraid to talk about the issue.
News flash...there is racism in every country.
Actually the more I read this the more it pisses me off.
America is not racist. That is not even possible. Some americans are racist though.
that's your nationalistic defensive mechanism kicking in ... the kind that takes every criticism as a personal afront ... the thing that makes americans - americans i guess ... it's a great quality but often obstructs ones perceptions ... no doubt you are getting pissed reading this too ...
anyways - if it makes people feel better ... i am more than happy to say canada is racist and pretty much everwhere ... our failure to acknowledge this is what allows racism to persist ... that is my point ... we want to believe we are better people but in fact we are not ... the only way to tackle it is to face it ...
or this?
or this??
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Canada is not racist. Some Canadians are though. That's my point. You think it's my nationalistic defense mechanism...I think it's my reality mechanism. It has nothing to do with where I am from or what nation we are discussing.
I agree that we need to face it and tackle it head on. I think you do so with open and fair discussion, not villifying anyone that makes a comment that can be MADE to appear racist every chance you get.
maybe it's just semantics on how you want to encompass it ... but there are still segregated proms in schools ... there are people who hate Obama simply because he is black ... and for every one of those people there are 5 that won't say it but feel it ... its subversive ... and it manifests itself in many ways ... go walk around in small towns as a visible minority and see how you are treated ...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I will put it this way when I think of a liberal or a left leaning individual this is what enters my mind.
> Tax payer funded abortion
2. supports bigger Gov or welfare state
3. gun control in other words doesn't like the 2nd amendment
4. politicle correctness
4. anti religion in the public sector
5. opposition to full private property rights
6.Thinks that the constitution is a living and breathing document.
7.income redistribution through progressive taxation
I could keep going but I think you get my point.
As far as D.Kucinich goes yeah he's definitly far left in my book, open boarders ( co sponser of HR 500),progressive taxaton But he does support the decriminilzation of marjuana so that's a good thing even though I personally don't smoke anymore,but we wasting to much money on the war on drugs when it comes to herb.
seriously, folks are going to play all kinds of cards, often just to piss others off...you know, like bushy and his supporters liked to play the "hate-America" card on a regular basis...
I do find it interesting how upset some get when the race card is played...you know, since the race card is silly and that all teabaggers are not racist...thus, the use of the race card should not be a big deal....
I really don't care anymore. it's been said on here many times that you are going to have a few nuts no matter what party or grass movment you attend,and you seem to forget about the signs that were being carried about bush during all the anti war protest.And what about that statment that J.Kerry made on Bill Mahr's show about killing Bush ? Did you forget about that one ?
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Breadlines not Bailouts...lay off my kids teacher...no medicare for mom...
1. lefties are pro-choice ... not sure if that is your point or the fact there are scenarios where it's funded by gov't ... if it's the former ... then yes ... a lefty is pro-choice typically and believes in reproductive rights ...
2. suport is for greater gov't involvement in matters that affect the public ... we don't want bigger gov't for the sake of big gov't ... for example - spending in military is well above what a lefty would want ... obama does not conform in this regard ... also, lefties would be against bailouts of most corporations ... again non-conforming
3. gun control in general is a lefty attribute ... i don't think it's necessarily against the 2nd amendment - just simply that there is needs to be regulations in place and enforced to ensure public safety ...
4. uhhh ... ok!?
4. if america is a non-secular country ... religion shouldn't have a role in the public policy ... not sure how Obama fits in here as every politician uses god within their agenda ...
5. this also is not a black and white issue ... should the grand canyon be privatized? ... not really sure what this is about to be honest ... need clarification
6. also not sure what this means ... as a lefty - i think it's a pretty good piece of writing ... too bad it isn't followed much
7. yes ... lefties generally believe in progressive tax measures ...
here are some key points of lefties that obama does not conform:
1. environment - we don't need to get into the details about climate change but his opening up for more drilling gives him a failing grade
2. social programs such as education and health care - although he has put thru his health care bill ... it is nowhwere near the kind of socialized system most lefties believe in ...
3. military/war - huge failing grade
4. foreign policy - continued support of israel is not a lefty trait
i believe this points are more relevant than the ones you mentioned ... remember - in any index that ranks socialist qualities of a country ... america is nowhere near the top ... most voters in the country are somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum based on key indicators ...
I don't care much for abortions at all. I am not pro-abortion in any way, but it is a very nuanced issue and I believe it needs a nuanced approach.
I aboslutely do not want an overbloated, wasteful governement however I want a government capable enough to properly handle public lands, military, public safety, etc. and I guess the difficult thing is where do you draw the line. There will be abuses in any system so I would call on the citizens to limit such abuses by being smart enough to vote these douchebags out.
Gun control. I believe people kill people, not guns, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. Should we all be allowed to have biological weapons in the name of personal freedom? I understand that is an extreme case but like I said, where do we draw the line and who gets to draw it?
Political correctness can have a place however can be abused by those usually who have nothing credible to add.
I am certainly anti-religion in the public sector. I don't want the government advertising a belief system or telling me what to believe. I beleive in freedom.
Property rights are great!
I do think the constitution is living, breathing document as it should be ammended in places from time to time. Times change (slavery, women's suffrage, etc.).
The taxation issue is a tough one for me. A flat, or less progressive tax would seem more fair however then us folk with less income couldn't buy as much of the stuff the rich folk produce. There are a lot of sub-issues this would generate but let's just say I'm split on this.
My point. Left and Right labels are bullshit nowadays. Let's make love, not war!
"With our thoughts we make the world"
I am not at odds with the current administration - not even kinda! This administration did start a war with a country that posed no threat to us. Yes, he is continuing it because even I believe once we were where we were with it, we have to see it through. But, it should have never been started in the first place.
Why would liberals and democrats join a party that strongly affiliates itself with the GOP? Don't ever try to pretend as though the tea baggers are some new thinkers. They are right lock and step with Sarah Palin and the GOP.
Labels, when applied to others based on personal prejudices are always characitures and rarely true. This list is, sadly, that norm.
1. Tax Funded Abortions. A typical religious grounded inaccuracy to paint people who do not agree with them as government backed baby killers. Pro-Choice people are 'Pro-Choice', with many of them against the choice of abortion as a birth control. Our preference is that choices made by people prevents the unwanted pregnancy in the first place. But, allows the woman to make the ultimate choice when confronted with this decision... not the state, not the church... not you.
2. Supports bigger Gov or Welfare State. Again... a misperception. Government is required when Private businesses prove that they are unwilling to regulate themselves and put the general public in danger. How short is the memory of people who can't recall names in recent history as AIG, CitiGroup, Bank Of America, Enron? When left on their own to self regulate their business... what happened? Did in affect others outside their businesses?
As far as supporting a welfare state... I don't know about that. What i do know is that part of the character of America I believe in is her belief in the strong taking care of the weak, not trample them underfoot or ignore them.
3. Gun control (in other words doesn't like the 2nd Amendment)... with the latter part being the stupidest thing posted in a while. People support ALL of the Bill Of Rights, including the Second Amendment. The issue is the relative ease it is to obtain a gun, by anyone.
Gun control advocates, in most part, do not want to abolish all gun ownership... just employ reasonable restrictions on the types of weapons and persons who have them. A .50 caliber rifle in the hands of a sociopath is probably not in the best interests of America as a whole.
4. Political Correctness. If you are against this... you are against this. There is no law preventing you from telling that Pollack joke... that nigger joke... that retarded guy joke. So, go ahead... cut loose. Let's hear some.
Unless, of course, you feel it is politically incorrect to say them... but... wouldn't that make you... Politically Correct?
5. Anti religion in the public sector. So, you are telling me you have no problem with passages from the Quoran being read in displayed in out courthouses... Call to prayer in our public schools? That you have no problem with tax dollars going to erect a Star Of David at the City Hall? Right?
6. Opposition to full private property rights. No fucking clue on this one. You need to explain this one.
7. Thinks that the constitution is a living and breathing document. Because the Constitution IS a living document. Did you think it was meant to be written in stone? To freeze 1776, forever? Read it. Check out the Bill of Rights... Why is there so much emphasis on the quartering of troops in your home? When was the last time the Army needed to take over your house as a barracks? There is a procedure to amend the Constitution... so future generations can apply their environments to to it.
8. Income redistribution through progressive taxation. In come redistribution, like... tax the rich, give to the poor? How is that any different from taxing the middle class to give to the rich?
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Hail, Hail!!!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
1. yeah that's the same excuse all of you pro choicers use and I aint buyin it.
2. That's not what Im talking about, I don't have a problem with businesses being regulated when they are doing damage to the country. What I do have a problem with is My tax dollars going to people who can't stop having kids and who are to damn lazy to go out and get a fucking job.
3.Well maybe you don't cosmo but there are pleanty of people on the left that want to ban guns. Im not saying that I think that there shouldn't be in depth background checks or that you should be able to own a RPG.
4.That's not political correctness,Thats bigotry or racist jokes you're talking about. Politicle correctness to me is being afraid that you are going to offend someone when talking about certain concepts,words or phrases.political correctness makes it almost impossible to say or do anything of any substance.
5.Well the Quran would never be displayed in a courthouse because This country was founded on Judeo-Christian phlosophy. So many of you don't even know what the seperation of church and state even means. It has nothing to do with prayer in schools.
6.Eminent domain, Go look it up.
7.Is your lease or car title a living and breathing document ? this idea leaves open just about any interpretation of the Constitution so that it can be an enabler for any policy, any government action. But we can amend it.
8. Okay ? just look at the shape your state is in. Need I say more ?
Well said prfctleft.......+1