My rebellious act of the week.

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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    edited April 2010
    know1 wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    I got the census and for "race" I checked off "other" and wrote "human".


    What is race really? How is it important?.. If we keep dividing people into groups based on appearances, how are we ever going to get rid of racism?

    Do we really need to keep track of how many blacks, whites, mexicans, hybrids, vulcans there are?..

    Fucking governent doesn't need to know how much pigment I have in my skin.

    This is exactly what I was trying to say in the Census thread. I totally agree.

    Plus - what is the definition of each race? And aren't we all of mixed race at this point anyway?

    I think many, many Americans are of mixed race. I think that should be an option.

    It really bothers me that they have the options "Hispanic" or "Non-hispanic." Neither one works for me.

    What about people like me who are partially Hispanic? I'm not entirely Hispanic, I'm not entirely non-Hispanic. There should be a third option! :x

    It bugged me in the last census and it bugged me this time too. :mrgreen:
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  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    I once rinsed... and never repeated.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    justam wrote:
    I think many, many Americans are of mixed race. I think that should be an option.

    It really bothers me that they have the options "Hispanic" or "Non-hispanic." Neither one works for me.

    What about people like me who are partially Hispanic? I'm not entirely Hispanic, I'm not entirely non-Hispanic. There should be a third option! :x

    It bugged me in the last census and it bugged me this time too. :mrgreen:
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    How do YOU define yourself? Do you consider yourself as more 'Hispanic' or less?
    Like the Original Poster stated, 'Human' is how he defines himself. He will get dropped in the 'Others' category.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Cosmo wrote:
    justam wrote:
    I think many, many Americans are of mixed race. I think that should be an option.

    It really bothers me that they have the options "Hispanic" or "Non-hispanic." Neither one works for me.

    What about people like me who are partially Hispanic? I'm not entirely Hispanic, I'm not entirely non-Hispanic. There should be a third option! :x

    It bugged me in the last census and it bugged me this time too. :mrgreen:
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    How do YOU define yourself? Do you consider yourself as more 'Hispanic' or less?
    Like the Original Poster stated, 'Human' is how he defines himself. He will get dropped in the 'Others' category.

    I am an American. I just happen to have Mexican grandparents and a Mexican American dad.

    I don't really know the culture though (because I only met them once!) so I would not call myself Hispanic except that biologically I am, indeed, half Hispanic.

    BUT, really, why do we have to classify ourselves as one or the other anyway? Why can't there be a box to check for "mixture."
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    justam wrote:
    I am an American. I just happen to have Mexican grandparents and a Mexican American dad.

    I don't really know the culture though (because I only met them once!) so I would not call myself Hispanic except that biologically I am, indeed, half Hispanic.
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    Then, check the others box and write that in, with the understanding that 'American' is not a race.
    NOTE: You will be counted as others... with the people who wrote Human, Homo Sapien, Arabic, Persian, Martian, Scientologist, Jewish, Dogman, Batboy, American, Urchin, etc...
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Cosmo wrote:
    justam wrote:
    I am an American. I just happen to have Mexican grandparents and a Mexican American dad.

    I don't really know the culture though (because I only met them once!) so I would not call myself Hispanic except that biologically I am, indeed, half Hispanic.
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    Then, check the others box and write that in, with the understanding that 'American' is not a race.
    NOTE: You will be counted as others... with the people who wrote Human, Homo Sapien, Arabic, Persian, Martian, Scientologist, Jewish, Dogman, Batboy, American, Urchin, etc...

    I am aware that "American" is not a race.

    As a family, we decided to choose "Caucasian" because the three males are carrying an Italian last name.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    justam wrote:
    I am aware that "American" is not a race.

    As a family, we decided to choose "Caucasian" because the three males are carrying an Italian last name.
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    and there you have it.
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    On a side note... that is funny and ironic... or sad and ironic... is that the 'scared of the government' folks who will listen to Michelle Bachman will not get counted... while the Mexicans and Black they hate so much... will be counted and the federal funding will be tailored more towards the minority community, than theirs.
    So... i guess it's more like poetic justice... that their campaign of fear and misinformation they created ends up crapping all over them.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    I'm never sure what to put as far as race. I have, as far as I know, Spaniard, Filipino and Italian ancestry. My kids have it worse, as they have Irish, Scottish, German, Dutch, Cherokee ancestry in addition to mine.
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Cosmo wrote:
    justam wrote:
    I am aware that "American" is not a race.

    As a family, we decided to choose "Caucasian" because the three males are carrying an Italian last name.
    ...
    and there you have it.
    ...
    On a side note... that is funny and ironic... or sad and ironic... is that the 'scared of the government' folks who will listen to Michelle Bachman will not get counted... while the Mexicans and Black they hate so much... will be counted and the federal funding will be tailored more towards the minority community, than theirs.
    So... i guess it's more like poetic justice... that their campaign of fear and misinformation they created ends up crapping all over them.

    Yes. Well, I think it's bad that this system DIVIDES people by making them pick a label for themselves.

    Wouldn't it be great if all Americans could just be "American people" without having to be labeled by any race at all? That's why I called myself American. I think as a group, we will eventually be known as the stew that all the immigrant ingredients created. ;)
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Starfall wrote:
    I'm never sure what to put as far as race. I have, as far as I know, Spaniard, Filipino and Italian ancestry. My kids have it worse, as they have Irish, Scottish, German, Dutch, Cherokee ancestry in addition to mine.

    They're like mine. Little American stew babies. ;):mrgreen:
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    justam wrote:
    Yes. Well, I think it's bad that this system DIVIDES people by making them pick a label for themselves.

    Wouldn't it be great if all Americans could just be "American people" without having to be labeled by any race at all? That's why I called myself American. I think as a group, we will eventually be known as the stew that all the immigrant ingredients created. ;)
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    Yeah... but, I kinda like the diversity and people's cultural and homeland national pride. Like... I like to see and hear Irish Americans celebrate on St. Patrick's day... or Italian Americans waving the flag of Italy. I like going to Jewish neighborhoods for a real pastrami on rye... or down to South Central for chicken and waffles.
    I like the spices of Cultural heritage... and it is important to people. If not, we all might become... well... just mayonaise.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Cosmo wrote:
    justam wrote:
    Yes. Well, I think it's bad that this system DIVIDES people by making them pick a label for themselves.

    Wouldn't it be great if all Americans could just be "American people" without having to be labeled by any race at all? That's why I called myself American. I think as a group, we will eventually be known as the stew that all the immigrant ingredients created. ;)
    ...
    Yeah... but, I kinda like the diversity and people's cultural and homeland national pride. Like... I like to see and hear Irish Americans celebrate on St. Patrick's day... or Italian Americans waving the flag of Italy. I like going to Jewish neighborhoods for a real pastrami on rye... or down to South Central for chicken and waffles.
    I like the spices of Cultural heritage... and it is important to people. If not, we all might become... well... just mayonaise.
    It's great and all, but what if you are American? What about American culture? Those people can identify because they are recent immigrants. A few generations from now their families will be Americanized. I'm a caucasian mutt, with family thats been over here about 3 generations, so my culture has become very much American.. and while it may not be as deep rooted, that is because it is still young, but no less important.


    Maybe I just feel left out, but American culture is the only thing I can identify with. It kind of irritates me when my Greek or Irish friends go on and on about how great their culture is. I think, get over yourselves, you're American like me now.

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