The Bush Admin is past.

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,508
    Godfather. wrote:
    some one sent me this, do the stats seem accurate ? if so lets break out the fish bone chart and fix it. :lol:

    Godfather.

    A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting
    statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health
    Organization.

    Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after
    diagnosis:
    U.S. 65%
    England 46%
    Canada 42%

    Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment
    within six months:
    U.S. 93%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six
    months:
    U.S. 90%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
    U.S. 77%
    England 40%
    Canada 43%

    Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
    U.S. 71
    England 14
    Canada 18

    Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in
    "excellent health":
    U.S. 12%
    England 2%
    Canada 6%

    I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare" comparable
    to England or Canada .

    VERY INTERESTING! the percentage of each past president's cabinet who had
    worked in the private business sector prior to their appointme nt to the
    cabinet.

    You know what the private business sector is... a real life business,
    not a government job.

    Here are the percentages.

    T. Roosevelt........ 38%
    Taft...................... 40%
    Wilson ................. 52%
    Harding.................49%
    Coolidge.............. 48%
    Hoover............ ..... 42%
    F. Roosevelt......... 50%
    Truman.......... ....... 50%
    Eisenhower........... 57%
    Kennedy.............. 30%
    Johnson................ 47%
    Nixon.................... 53%
    Ford..................... 42%
    Carter................... 32%
    Reagan................. 56%
    GH Bush...... ........ 51%
    Clinton ................. 39%
    GW Bush............. 55%

    And the winner is..............Obama.................
    8% !!!

    Yep! That's right! Only Eight
    Percent!!!..the least by far of the last 19
    presidents!! And these people are
    trying to tell our big corporations how
    to run their business? They know what's
    best for GM...Chrysler... Wall
    Street... and you and me?

    How can the president of a major
    nation and society...the one with the
    most successful economic system in
    world history... stand and talk about
    business when he's never worked for
    one?.. or about jobs when he has never
    really had one??!
    And neither has 92% of his senior staff
    and closest advisers..! They've
    spent most of their time in academia,
    government and/or non-profit
    jobs....or as "community organizers"

    and yet we are ranked #37 by the World Health Organization....behind all those other countries
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Godfather. wrote:
    some one sent me this, do the stats seem accurate ? if so lets break out the fish bone chart and fix it. :lol:

    Godfather.

    A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting
    statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health
    Organization.

    Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after
    diagnosis:
    U.S. 65%
    England 46%
    Canada 42%

    Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment
    within six months:
    U.S. 93%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six
    months:
    U.S. 90%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
    U.S. 77%
    England 40%
    Canada 43%

    Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
    U.S. 71
    England 14
    Canada 18

    Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in
    "excellent health":
    U.S. 12%
    England 2%
    Canada 6%

    I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare" comparable
    to England or Canada .

    VERY INTERESTING! the percentage of each past president's cabinet who had
    worked in the private business sector prior to their appointme nt to the
    cabinet.

    You know what the private business sector is... a real life business,
    not a government job.

    Here are the percentages.

    T. Roosevelt........ 38%
    Taft...................... 40%
    Wilson ................. 52%
    Harding.................49%
    Coolidge.............. 48%
    Hoover............ ..... 42%
    F. Roosevelt......... 50%
    Truman.......... ....... 50%
    Eisenhower........... 57%
    Kennedy.............. 30%
    Johnson................ 47%
    Nixon.................... 53%
    Ford..................... 42%
    Carter................... 32%
    Reagan................. 56%
    GH Bush...... ........ 51%
    Clinton ................. 39%
    GW Bush............. 55%

    And the winner is..............Obama.................
    8% !!!

    Yep! That's right! Only Eight
    Percent!!!..the least by far of the last 19
    presidents!! And these people are
    trying to tell our big corporations how
    to run their business? They know what's
    best for GM...Chrysler... Wall
    Street... and you and me?

    How can the president of a major
    nation and society...the one with the
    most successful economic system in
    world history... stand and talk about
    business when he's never worked for
    one?.. or about jobs when he has never
    really had one??!
    And neither has 92% of his senior staff
    and closest advisers..! They've
    spent most of their time in academia,
    government and/or non-profit
    jobs....or as "community organizers"

    Where's the percentage of people that go bankrupt after getting sick?
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Godfather. wrote:
    some one sent me this, do the stats seem accurate ? if so lets break out the fish bone chart and fix it. :lol:

    Godfather.

    A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting
    statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health
    Organization.

    Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after
    diagnosis:
    U.S. 65%
    England 46%
    Canada 42%

    Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment
    within six months:
    U.S. 93%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six
    months:
    U.S. 90%
    England 15%
    Canada 43%

    Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
    U.S. 77%
    England 40%
    Canada 43%

    Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
    U.S. 71
    England 14
    Canada 18

    Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in
    "excellent health":
    U.S. 12%
    England 2%
    Canada 6%

    I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare" comparable
    to England or Canada .

    VERY INTERESTING! the percentage of each past president's cabinet who had
    worked in the private business sector prior to their appointme nt to the
    cabinet.

    You know what the private business sector is... a real life business,
    not a government job.

    Here are the percentages.

    T. Roosevelt........ 38%
    Taft...................... 40%
    Wilson ................. 52%
    Harding.................49%
    Coolidge.............. 48%
    Hoover............ ..... 42%
    F. Roosevelt......... 50%
    Truman.......... ....... 50%
    Eisenhower........... 57%
    Kennedy.............. 30%
    Johnson................ 47%
    Nixon.................... 53%
    Ford..................... 42%
    Carter................... 32%
    Reagan................. 56%
    GH Bush...... ........ 51%
    Clinton ................. 39%
    GW Bush............. 55%

    And the winner is..............Obama.................
    8% !!!

    Yep! That's right! Only Eight
    Percent!!!..the least by far of the last 19
    presidents!! And these people are
    trying to tell our big corporations how
    to run their business? They know what's
    best for GM...Chrysler... Wall
    Street... and you and me?

    How can the president of a major
    nation and society...the one with the
    most successful economic system in
    world history... stand and talk about
    business when he's never worked for
    one?.. or about jobs when he has never
    really had one??!
    And neither has 92% of his senior staff
    and closest advisers..! They've
    spent most of their time in academia,
    government and/or non-profit
    jobs....or as "community organizers"

    and yet we are ranked #37 by the World Health Organization....behind all those other countries

    Maybe the WHO is in on it. You know......to complete a total socialistic poverty style world to lead us into the New World Order. Just a thought.
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    yeah like I would really want the CEO's of GM to be running the country.....

    the ebay lady is running for governor right? we will see how well she does if she wins but I suspect that running a state government will be much more challenging with far less results or money made.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    KDH12 wrote:
    yeah like I would really want the CEO's of GM to be running the country.....

    the ebay lady is running for governor right? we will see how well she does if she wins but I suspect that running a state government will be much more challenging with far less results or money made.

    agreed. the EBAY lady is a concern,for some reason I have bad feeling in my gut about her but she dose
    give a hellava sales pitch.

    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    to those saying we should stop talking about the bush administration because it is in the past i have this to say to you. bush and cheney changed the presidency, possibly forever. bush took us to 2 undeclared wars, which is illegal under the constitution, implemented more signing statements than any president in history, oversaw the loss of a record surplus and turned it into record deficits, implemented the patriot act, the single biggest infringement on civil liberties in the history of the country, cut taxes for his cronies, oversaw the closing of american factories and saw the manufacturing sector move overseas, cheney was making backroom deals dividing up iraq's oil fields before the war started, bush strongarmed other countries to go to war with us and told them "they are with us or they are against us", bush tried to appoint his friend and former lawyer harriet meyers to the supreme court when she was unqualified, brownie was in charge of fema when he was unqualified, cheny had the name of a covert cia operative who was in charge of tracking loose nukes printed in the press and libby took the fall for it, bush and cheney had the entire country so preoccupied with fear of being attacked again they were free to do whatever they wanted to do..etc, etc, etc,

    my point is, What is past is prologue, and those that do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it...

    what new president in their right mind would give up some of these powers that bush and cheney created? probably none, since precedent was established by bush...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,508
    I think it can all be traced to Karl Rove. He was such a disastrous element to the GOP.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    As much as we would like to think running a government is a business, I'm not sure it is.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Godfather. wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    some of the people on here keep complaining about the Bush years..well I got news for you we have a new president and sense he's doing such a wonderful job the Bush years should no longer be a problem right ?
    :lol::lol: just say'n....everybody needs someone to blame our problems on.

    Godfather.
    i don't complain about bush. just the idiots who voted for him a second time, and now spend their every waking moment revelling in how fucked up the country is because we have a new President all of a sudden.

    oh.

    and stupid rednecks. i'm not overly keen on them either.

    someday you'll understand but for you it seems a long way off.

    Godfather.
    i understand just fine.

    jeez. what's the matter with you? is this what you've become, some Hollywood finnochio that cries like a woman?

    tsk tsk.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited March 2010
    Godfather. wrote:
    some of the people on here keep complaining about the Bush years..well I got news for you we have a new president and sense he's doing such a wonderful job the Bush years should no longer be a problem right ?
    :lol::lol: just say'n....everybody needs someone to blame our problems on.

    Godfather.
    ...
    So... what you are saying is that you do not believe in responsibility? Or accountability, either?
    In case of hit and run... the damage is done... get over it, right? You should quit complaining about who is responsible for the damage done to the car... or the bodily injuries incurred by it and just get it fixed.
    I always thought that personal responsibility was a cornerstone of Conservatism... I guess doesn't apply to you, right? I mean, that's what you're saying, isn't it? There is no responsibility for actions and their consequences.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,508
    the dude thinks he's a godfather....to the point of signing each one of his posts "godfather."

    not much brain matter...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    the dude thinks he's a godfather....to the point of signing each one of his posts "godfather."

    not much brain matter...
    ...
    Yeah.. seriously.
    And if what he believes in is true... that the Bush administration should not be held responsible for the decisions and actions they made... then, why are we still going after Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda? That attack occurred 9 years ago... according to The Godfather, we should just get over it already.
    And I have a pretty strong feeling that after the Obama Administration is done, he will still be complaining about it's decisions and actions because of the future consequences that will exist.
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    the dude thinks he's a godfather....to the point of signing each one of his posts "godfather."

    not much brain matter...
    :lol::lol::lol:
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    some of the people on here keep complaining about the Bush years..well I got news for you we have a new president and sense he's doing such a wonderful job the Bush years should no longer be a problem right ?
    :lol::lol: just say'n....everybody needs someone to blame our problems on.

    Godfather.
    ...
    So... what you are saying is that you do not believe in responsibility? Or accountability, either?
    In case of hit and run... the damage is done... get over it, right? You should quit complaining about who did the damage done to the car... or the bodily injuries incurred by it and just get it fixed.
    I always thought that personal responsibility was a cornerstone of Conservatism... I guess doesn't apply to you, right? I mean, that's what you're saying, isn't it? There is no responsibility for actions and their consequences.


    accountability???? such a foreign concept in politics!
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

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    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    Godfather. wrote:
    some one sent me this, do the stats seem accurate ? if so lets break out the fish bone chart and fix it. :lol:

    A few things need to be pointed out -
    Even if it were true about the US survival statistics, nobody dies in the UK or Canada for lack of health insurance, whereas 44,000 die every year in the USA. It's not the quality of health care being provided, it's the lack of access that's the problem.

    Secondly, using the yardstick of having a lot of business people in government as some standard for success is ludicrous on its face. Last I checked, Bill Clinton presided over a booming economy and he scored near the bottom at 39%. So did JFK, and Teddy Roosevelt. And the top marginal tax rates under that infamous socialist Eisenhower were almost 90%.
    Moreover, George W Bush, who scored second at 53%, not only ran the economy into the ground, but even before being President he ran 3 companies into bankruptcy too. :lol:

    This is why the whole concept of "fiscal conservative" is useless:

    Fiscal_Conservative.jpg
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Godfather. wrote:
    some of the people on here keep complaining about the Bush years..well I got news for you we have a new president and sense he's doing such a wonderful job the Bush years should no longer be a problem right ?
    :lol::lol: just say'n....everybody needs someone to blame our problems on.

    Godfather.
    i don't complain about bush. just the idiots who voted for him a second time, and now spend their every waking moment revelling in how fucked up the country is because we have a new President all of a sudden.

    oh.

    and stupid rednecks. i'm not overly keen on them either.

    Nobody voted bush "in", he was put in cuz of his blood line. Presidents are NEVER elected by the people for the people but by who's bloodlines are "BLUE-er."

    And what's with all the JEB hating TA??? :lol:
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Hey godfather, maybe it's U that mite finally get it someday....fuck I'm so tired of saying it over and over again, there is NO democracy in America or in the world. It's all 1....Fuck, with all the information out there and the internet, why can't "some" of u wake the fuck up!!!! Come on, stop fucken sleep walking through life....the "true" leaders are the "hidden hand" that no one sees.....unless they look hard enough...
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    the dude thinks he's a godfather....to the point of signing each one of his posts "godfather."

    not much brain matter...

    sounds like the kid's are getting restless, why don't you pole smoking fagot punks get a life...or is your life
    just that.. a bunch of rump rangers ? sad.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    badbrains wrote:
    Hey godfather, maybe it's U that mite finally get it someday....fuck I'm so tired of saying it over and over again, there is NO democracy in America or in the world. It's all 1....Fuck, with all the information out there and the internet, why can't "some" of u wake the fuck up!!!! Come on, stop fucken sleep walking through life....the "true" leaders are the "hidden hand" that no one sees.....unless they look hard enough...

    Agreed..."the true" leaders are the "hidden hand" that no one sees"

    Godfather.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,508
    Godfather. wrote:
    the dude thinks he's a godfather....to the point of signing each one of his posts "godfather."

    not much brain matter...

    sounds like the kid's are getting restless, why don't you pole smoking fagot punks get a life...or is your life
    just that.. a bunch of rump rangers ? sad.

    Godfather.

    interesting

    Gern Blansten.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2