Are you saying you are ok with the government taking over every aspect of our private life....because that is were we are headed...
Saul Alinsky rule. Obama’s buddy....That rule says you must fan the flames of dissent, lie through your teeth, try to vilify your opposition, and never, ever expose the truth that you are a Commie, anti-American, Socialist, corrupt crook.
Sound familiar?
You really need to either change the channel or get off the couch and get out more.
Now I would like to To Hear an explanation from you on the left on how a person can associate themselves with these type of thinkers and organizations all his life starting when he was a boy... till now....yet not have the same ideology as they do?
I think one should associate themselves with all kinds of thinkers, to be exposed to many different types of ideas. My highschool was full of everything from Muslims, Buddhists, Evangelical Christians, Conservatives, Liberals, etc.. etc.. I spoke and discussed many issues with them, and don't share their beliefs.
At my University, I don't share the ideology of them, but I do learn from them.
My grandparents are religious, I see them probably once a week, yet I don't have the same ideology.
Edit: Don't Churches also advocate charity? Is this not a redistribution of wealth? By extension, maybe Obama is just pushing a Christian ideology.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
Now I would like to Hear an explanation from you on the left on how a person can associate themselves with these type of thinkers and organizations all his life starting when he was a boy... till now....yet not have the same ideology as they do?
I think one should associate themselves with all kinds of thinkers, to be exposed to many different types of ideas. My highschool was full of everything from Muslims, Buddhists, Evangelical Christians, Conservatives, Liberals, etc.. etc.. I spoke and discussed many issues with them, and don't share their beliefs.
At my University, I don't share the ideology of them, but I do learn from them.
My grandparents are religious, I see them probably once a week, yet I don't have the same ideology.
Edit: Don't Churches also advocate charity? Is this not a redistribution of wealth? By extension, maybe Obama is just pushing a Christian ideology.
Churches do advocate charity....if someone wants to give and help someone in need it is there choice....
socialism...when the government takes a persons money and supposedly gives it to others in need....
with the rampant amount of corruption in the White House ( all parties included) how do we know were the hell it really goes.
The organizations he supported along with the majority of his associates all push the socialist ideology. I don’t know why you all try to deny this, when he does not try to hide it....it’s all out in the open....what is to deny?
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
We don't. Nor do we know where its going with the military, or the post office. If lives are being saved, its worth it.
I guess it's my Canadian perspective (though I'm an American citizen as well). I'm proud to live in a country where my next door neighbour won't go bankrupt because he or his daughter get sick. Do I pay too much taxes on my vodka? Absolutely.
And you didn't respond to my other point about how one can associate with someone but not share beliefs.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
Now I would like to To Hear an explanation from you on the left on how a person can associate themselves with these type of thinkers and organizations all his life starting when he was a boy... till now....yet not have the same ideology as they do?
organizations that Obama surrounded himself with before he became president.
1. prfctlefts said....
William Ayers,Marilyn Katz, Frank Marshall Davis, Alice Palmer, George Soros, Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, Carl Davidson, Robert Blackwell, Tony Rezko, Dorothy Tillman, Robert Malley, Cornel West, Howard Dean, Donna Brazille, Nancy Pelosi, MoveOn.org, Center for American Progress, Open Society Institute, Arab American Action Network, The Democracy Alliance, The New Party, the Democratic Socialist Party, The Working Families Party, Socialist Scholars Conference, Campaign for America’s Future, The Progressive Caucus, Public Allies, ACORN, Citizens Services, Inc., Ken Rolling, The Woods Fund, The Chicago Annenberg Challenge, The Joyce Foundation, Gamaliel Foundation, Students For A Democratic Society, Saul Alinsky, Richard Andrew Cloward, Frances Fox Piven, Zbigniew Brzenzinski, Penny Pritzker, The Superior Bank, The Broadway Bank, Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, Reverend Wright, Rather Pfleuger, Raila Odinga of Kenya,
Ah yes, the old "Guilt By Association" canard. Of course, nobody on the right pointed out how George W. Bush surrounded himself with convicted felons.
And I'm still awaiting why you all think George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, Cornell West, etc are such horrible, socialist totalitarian radicals hell bent on destroying America. Come on. Indulge me.
"It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
Are you saying you are ok with the government taking over every aspect of our private life....because that is were we are headed...
Saul Alinsky rule. Obama’s buddy....That rule says you must fan the flames of dissent, lie through your teeth, try to vilify your opposition, and never, ever expose the truth that you are a Commie, anti-American, Socialist, corrupt crook.
Sound familiar?
You really need to either change the channel or get off the couch and get out more.
This from someone that has no idea what Freedom is....hopefully you will one day.....that is what we are working to keep.....but I understand ...how could I expect you to understand when you don’t even know how great Freedom is....
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
You really need to either change the channel or get off the couch and get out more.
This from someone that has no idea what Freedom is....hopefully you will one day.....that is what we are working to keep.....but I understand ...how could I expect you to understand when you don’t even know how great Freedom is....
Now I would like to To Hear an explanation from you on the left on how a person can associate themselves with these type of thinkers and organizations all his life starting when he was a boy... till now....yet not have the same ideology as they do?
organizations that Obama surrounded himself with before he became president.
1. prfctlefts said....
William Ayers,Marilyn Katz, Frank Marshall Davis, Alice Palmer, George Soros, Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, Carl Davidson, Robert Blackwell, Tony Rezko, Dorothy Tillman, Robert Malley, Cornel West, Howard Dean, Donna Brazille, Nancy Pelosi, MoveOn.org, Center for American Progress, Open Society Institute, Arab American Action Network, The Democracy Alliance, The New Party, the Democratic Socialist Party, The Working Families Party, Socialist Scholars Conference, Campaign for America’s Future, The Progressive Caucus, Public Allies, ACORN, Citizens Services, Inc., Ken Rolling, The Woods Fund, The Chicago Annenberg Challenge, The Joyce Foundation, Gamaliel Foundation, Students For A Democratic Society, Saul Alinsky, Richard Andrew Cloward, Frances Fox Piven, Zbigniew Brzenzinski, Penny Pritzker, The Superior Bank, The Broadway Bank, Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, Reverend Wright, Rather Pfleuger, Raila Odinga of Kenya,
Ah yes, the old "Guilt By Association" canard. Of course, nobody on the right pointed out how George W. Bush surrounded himself with convicted felons.
And I'm still awaiting why you all think George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, Cornell West, etc are such horrible, socialist totalitarian radicals hell bent on destroying America. Come on. Indulge me.
Really? You want to go back as far as 1992? with your link
Google it ....no time to repeat my self.........sorry..boring...
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
You really need to either change the channel or get off the couch and get out more.
This from someone that has no idea what Freedom is....hopefully you will one day.....that is what we are working to keep.....but I understand ...how could I expect you to understand when you don’t even know how great Freedom is....
What? :?
Is your real name George W. Bush?
maybe aerial thinks youre chinese steve. you know what communist freedom trouncing bastards those guys are.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Redistribution of wealth is the government actually taking all the resources and capital in a society and then redividing it up among the population. The US has never done anything remotely like this... you may not like some programs, but none of these programs come anywhere remotely to this.
And if you somehow think anyone in DC is keeping relations with "good people", I suggest you vote for Mikey Mouse on every election day the rest of your life. Our government is and will be full of politicians who do, say and know every unsavory thing we can imagine and none of them are worth anyone's respect, follow or honor.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Redistribution of wealth is the government actually taking all the resources and capital in a society and then redividing it up among the population. The US has never done anything remotely like this... you may not like some programs, but none of these programs come anywhere remotely to this.
And if you somehow think anyone in DC is keeping relations with "good people", I suggest you vote for Mikey Mouse on every election day the rest of your life. Our government is and will be full of politicians who do, say and know every unsavory thing we can imagine and none of them are worth anyone's respect, follow or honor.
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Well perhaps that's true of any place or group... some good and some bad.... but collectively, our actions, thoughts or lack of concern aren't anything to be emulated or sought after. And before you jump the gun, let me beat you to the punch... no perhaps other places may not be all that better or have more freedoms or illusion of choice or potential for power.. but with all that said, our nation is pretty much the beacon for self-interest, corporate profiteering and under-minding of any fair, balanced society in which humans are treated as such, and not merely a consumer for products in a society which everything must have a price-tag for exploitation. But don't mind me, I'm sure you'll just classify this as communism or socialism or leftist drivel as you continue to participate in the selling of our souls for someone else's benefit.. by all means enjoy and good riddance America. You are free, don't vote... you are free, buy more goods... you are free... work more, get less.. you are free. Keep repeating it, we are free...and maybe it will stick.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
i hate to break it to you but this country has been redistributing the wealth for pretty much ever. take the state of new york for example. the state collects far more taxes than it gets back, the rest is spread around the other 49 states. do you have a problem with this, as well?
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
i hate to break it to you but this country has been redistributing the wealth for pretty much ever. take the state of new york for example. the state collects far more taxes than it gets back, the rest is spread around the other 49 states. do you have a problem with this, as well?
Not to mention the redistribution of wealth from the middle and lower classes to the upper, most affluent, class. 30 years of Reaganomics culminating in George W Bush has assured us of that. Destroy the unions, destroy the manufacturing job base, cut taxes to the wealthy to starve the government to the point where "it can be dragged into the bathtub and drowned", thereby eliminating the one threat to the wealthy ruling class.... socialism for the rich.
As Warren Buffet once famously said, "There was a class war, and my class won."
"It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
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kinda like the id, ego and superego???
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
You really need to either change the channel or get off the couch and get out more.
I think one should associate themselves with all kinds of thinkers, to be exposed to many different types of ideas. My highschool was full of everything from Muslims, Buddhists, Evangelical Christians, Conservatives, Liberals, etc.. etc.. I spoke and discussed many issues with them, and don't share their beliefs.
At my University, I don't share the ideology of them, but I do learn from them.
My grandparents are religious, I see them probably once a week, yet I don't have the same ideology.
Edit: Don't Churches also advocate charity? Is this not a redistribution of wealth? By extension, maybe Obama is just pushing a Christian ideology.
socialism...when the government takes a persons money and supposedly gives it to others in need....
with the rampant amount of corruption in the White House ( all parties included) how do we know were the hell it really goes.
The organizations he supported along with the majority of his associates all push the socialist ideology. I don’t know why you all try to deny this, when he does not try to hide it....it’s all out in the open....what is to deny?
I guess it's my Canadian perspective (though I'm an American citizen as well). I'm proud to live in a country where my next door neighbour won't go bankrupt because he or his daughter get sick. Do I pay too much taxes on my vodka? Absolutely.
And you didn't respond to my other point about how one can associate with someone but not share beliefs.
Ah yes, the old "Guilt By Association" canard. Of course, nobody on the right pointed out how George W. Bush surrounded himself with convicted felons.
And I'm still awaiting why you all think George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, Cornell West, etc are such horrible, socialist totalitarian radicals hell bent on destroying America. Come on. Indulge me.
This from someone that has no idea what Freedom is....hopefully you will one day.....that is what we are working to keep.....but I understand ...how could I expect you to understand when you don’t even know how great Freedom is....
What? :?
Is your real name George W. Bush?
Google it ....no time to repeat my self.........sorry..boring...
maybe aerial thinks youre chinese steve. you know what communist freedom trouncing bastards those guys are.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
So the passage of a few years automatically changes a cold, hard fact? Sorry, can't agree with you there.
You can't be bothered, or you don't have proof? Come on... enlighten me. Now's your chance to prove me wrong.
Do it.
just jokin' byrnzie..
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
And if you somehow think anyone in DC is keeping relations with "good people", I suggest you vote for Mikey Mouse on every election day the rest of your life. Our government is and will be full of politicians who do, say and know every unsavory thing we can imagine and none of them are worth anyone's respect, follow or honor.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
there are good people in this country
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
i hate to break it to you but this country has been redistributing the wealth for pretty much ever. take the state of new york for example. the state collects far more taxes than it gets back, the rest is spread around the other 49 states. do you have a problem with this, as well?
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Not to mention the redistribution of wealth from the middle and lower classes to the upper, most affluent, class. 30 years of Reaganomics culminating in George W Bush has assured us of that. Destroy the unions, destroy the manufacturing job base, cut taxes to the wealthy to starve the government to the point where "it can be dragged into the bathtub and drowned", thereby eliminating the one threat to the wealthy ruling class.... socialism for the rich.
As Warren Buffet once famously said, "There was a class war, and my class won."