Pelosi and Marx on Freedom

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    aerial wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    "How do you tell a communist? Well. its someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." Ronald Reagan

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_adm ... n_scandals
    The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president to date.[1] The most well known of these scandals, the Iran-Contra affair, involved a plan whereby weapons were sold to Iran and the profits diverted to fund the Nicaraguan Contras, in violation of U.S. and international law.

    The HUD rigging scandal consisted of Department of Housing and Urban Development Secretary Samuel Pierce and his associates rigging low income housing bids to favor Republican contributors to Reagan's campaign as well as rewarding Republican lobbyists such as James G. Watt a former Secretary of the Interior. [2] Sixteen convictions were eventually handed down.[3]

    In the Sewergate scandal, officials at the EPA were found guilty of using money from Superfund to enhance the election prospects of local politicians aligned with the administration.

    The Lobbying scandal involved Reagan's Chief of Staff Michael Deaver and Reagan's Press Secretary Lyn Nofziger both being charged with lobbying improprieties.

    The EPA scandal occurred when the head of the EPA Rita Lavelle was found in Contempt of Congress and her assistant Rita Lavelle was convicted of perjury. It involving channeling of EPA funds to projects which aided local Republican politicans.

    The Inslaw Affair involved Deputy Attorney General D. Lowell Jensen and C. Madison Brewer both being held in Contempt of Congress for alleged theft of software and services from the Inslaw Corporation.

    Savings and loan crisis in which 747 institutions failed and had to be rescued with $160,000,000,000 of taxpayer monies.
    AND WHAT?....just a bunch of bla bla bla..........
    the truth is painful isn't it?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Word games? An article was posted saying Pelosi and/or our nation is either communist or turning such.. the simple fact that anyone would make that claim shows they do not know the words and meaning of them that they are using.

    I do not agree with most of the things this administration has done, but saying things which aren't true or factual to discredit them is mere slander and gives you no leg to stand on. You may as well just post "Obama is smelly".
    aerial wrote:
    good post friend...

    They want to play word games here because that’s all they got......notice no one has said a word about all Obama’s buddies....they just keep following.......
    "One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project, most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can’t afford it." -
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited March 2010
    aerial wrote:
    AND WHAT?....just a bunch of bla bla bla..........

    Nice response. You're really doing yourself proud.

    Ronald Reagan was a criminal. He was responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands, including the murder of children and the raping of nuns. He was responsible for the U.S being convicted by the World Court for the crime of international terrorism for it's conduct in Nicaragua. He was also the most corrupt U.S President to date. He was responsible for selling weapons to Iran in order to fund death squads in Latin America.

    Just a bunch of bla bla bla though, right?

    Clearly he's a hero of yours.
    Post edited by Byrnzie on
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited March 2010
    michelle822 wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    "How do you tell a communist? Well. its someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." Ronald Reagan


    What do you call someone who neither reads nor understands Marx and Lenin?

    .... ?

    and I would call you a blank blank
    Ive read enough to know what i need to know. The man was a miscreant and a Depressed insomniac who hated the middle class and the working class for that matter. He wanted the Gov to control everything.

    Oh I forgot he was also an amoral relativist and secular humanist also
    Post edited by WaveCameCrashin on
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    "How do you tell a communist? Well. its someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." Ronald Reagan

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_adm ... n_scandals
    The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president to date.[1] The most well known of these scandals, the Iran-Contra affair, involved a plan whereby weapons were sold to Iran and the profits diverted to fund the Nicaraguan Contras, in violation of U.S. and international law.

    The HUD rigging scandal consisted of Department of Housing and Urban Development Secretary Samuel Pierce and his associates rigging low income housing bids to favor Republican contributors to Reagan's campaign as well as rewarding Republican lobbyists such as James G. Watt a former Secretary of the Interior. [2] Sixteen convictions were eventually handed down.[3]

    In the Sewergate scandal, officials at the EPA were found guilty of using money from Superfund to enhance the election prospects of local politicians aligned with the administration.

    The Lobbying scandal involved Reagan's Chief of Staff Michael Deaver and Reagan's Press Secretary Lyn Nofziger both being charged with lobbying improprieties.

    The EPA scandal occurred when the head of the EPA Rita Lavelle was found in Contempt of Congress and her assistant Rita Lavelle was convicted of perjury. It involving channeling of EPA funds to projects which aided local Republican politicans.

    The Inslaw Affair involved Deputy Attorney General D. Lowell Jensen and C. Madison Brewer both being held in Contempt of Congress for alleged theft of software and services from the Inslaw Corporation.

    Savings and loan crisis in which 747 institutions failed and had to be rescued with $160,000,000,000 of taxpayer monies.
    AND WHAT?....just a bunch of bla bla bla..........
    quote="gimmesometruth27"...the truth is painful isn't it?
    Must be why the left refuses to see it...they are weak!
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    aerial wrote:
    Must be why the left refuses to see it...they are weak!
    why don't you reply to byrnzies post? because you can't. you can't refute what reagan did so you tune it out, put your fingers in your ears and say "blah blah blah" like a damn child. the left might be "weak", but it sure as hell beats being ignorant of the facts like the teabaggers...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    No it is not any more "heading that way" than during Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush. If you want to get technical, our nation is and has transformed in the 20th Century into a oligarchy. Big Business and government in bed to create a better environment for profit and to maintain their own power, and if you go back and look at all your list of examples of "wrong-doings", whether it's this adminstration or the last several, it is exactly just that.

    Lastly and let me be clear, unless you woke up yesterday, these things have been going on for decades in our nation. To out of the blue demonize Obama any more than anyone before him is mere biased partisan politics or smear tactices because your political leaning isn't winning. If you're so intrigued by the company government keeps and involves themselves with or any of the ongoing issues we see in government, perhaps studying and learning more about the issues and what causes them compared to simply pointing the finger at the latest version of it in government and our system.
    aerial wrote:
    We are saying it's heading that way...it's starting
    Look I will not argue Marxism, socialist, communist anymore......We all know the meanings....screw all the technical differences....you all need to check out a few of the organizations and buddies Obama has been involved with and lets discuss those people....old saying is “ you will be judged by the company you keep”....
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Obama's Mother Was a "Communist Sympathizer" - " Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report" Source: Spengler, Asia Times "The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics - Barack Obama" Source: Tim Jones, Chicago Tribune

    Here he admits it.
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    FiveB247x wrote:
    No it is not any more "heading that way" than during Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush. If you want to get technical, our nation is and has transformed in the 20th Century into a oligarchy. Big Business and government in bed to create a better environment for profit and to maintain their own power, and if you go back and look at all your list of examples of "wrong-doings", whether it's this adminstration or the last several, it is exactly just that.

    Lastly and let me be clear, unless you woke up yesterday, these things have been going on for decades in our nation. To out of the blue demonize Obama any more than anyone before him is mere biased partisan politics or smear tactices because your political leaning isn't winning. If you're so intrigued by the company government keeps and involves themselves with or any of the ongoing issues we see in government, perhaps studying and learning more about the issues and what causes them compared to simply pointing the finger at the latest version of it in government and our system.
    aerial wrote:
    We are saying it's heading that way...it's starting
    Look I will not argue Marxism, socialist, communist anymore......We all know the meanings....screw all the technical differences....you all need to check out a few of the organizations and buddies Obama has been involved with and lets discuss those people....old saying is “ you will be judged by the company you keep”....


    I'll give you that ,but I believe Obama is an Overdrive and he is intentionally trying to bring this country down and transform it into something we are not.
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    I agree and the answer is not more Government Rule.....the answer is to hold everyone in the White House accountable for there actions
    FiveB247x wrote:
    No it is not any more "heading that way" than during Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush. If you want to get technical, our nation is and has transformed in the 20th Century into a oligarchy. Big Business and government in bed to create a better environment for profit and to maintain their own power, and if you go back and look at all your list of examples of "wrong-doings", whether it's this adminstration or the last several, it is exactly just that.

    Lastly and let me be clear, unless you woke up yesterday, these things have been going on for decades in our nation. To out of the blue demonize Obama any more than anyone before him is mere biased partisan politics or smear tactices because your political leaning isn't winning. If you're so intrigued by the company government keeps and involves themselves with or any of the ongoing issues we see in government, perhaps studying and learning more about the issues and what causes them compared to simply pointing the finger at the latest version of it in government and our system.
    aerial wrote:
    We are saying it's heading that way...it's starting
    Look I will not argue Marxism, socialist, communist anymore......We all know the meanings....screw all the technical differences....you all need to check out a few of the organizations and buddies Obama has been involved with and lets discuss those people....old saying is “ you will be judged by the company you keep”....
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    See here's what I do not understand.... The Dems have control of the Congress and can't pass things as they please, so how exactly are they transforming the nation? Last I checked both Dems and Reps are responsible for voting in most of the stuff you're complaining about. Also, did you just wake up politically - how come much of this "responsibility and accountability" has spurred out of the blue? Where has this been for the past few decades? Seems like it only veers its head out when a Democrat is in office... why is that?
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I'll give you that ,but I believe Obama is an Overdrive and he is intentionally trying to bring this country down and transform it into something we are not.
    aerial wrote:
    I agree and the answer is not more Government Rule.....the answer is to hold everyone in the White House accountable for there actions
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    FiveB247x wrote:
    See here's what I do not understand.... The Dems have control of the Congress and can't pass things as they please, so how exactly are they transforming the nation? Last I checked both Dems and Reps are responsible for voting in most of the stuff you're complaining about. Also, did you just wake up politically - how come much of this "responsibility and accountability" has spurred out of the blue? Where has this been for the past few decades? Seems like it only veers its head out when a Democrat is in office... why is that?
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I'll give you that ,but I believe Obama is an Overdrive and he is intentionally trying to bring this country down and transform it into something we are not.
    aerial wrote:
    I agree and the answer is not more Government Rule.....the answer is to hold everyone in the White House accountable for there actions
    no, people woke up when an african american won the election and is now running their precious country....gotta love that hatriotism..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    I have to go to work now,but No I just didn't wake up politically,but all the examples that I have seen lately makes me think that the left the far left that is, wants to change this country into something else.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I don't discount racism in our nation, but I think Clinton was also criticized by the right and non-democrats for the same reasons... basically accountability and responsibility but only because a Dem was in office. This mantra seems to disappear when Reps are in office and ironically it's when we have some of our worst crimes committed.. you know like genocide, war, globalization and similar. But passing legislation which makes people pay taxes which will help things like healthcare coverage for uninsured or similar, this is treasonous. :roll:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    no, people woke up when an african american won the election and is now running their precious country....gotta love that hatriotism..
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Most of America is not left or even far left, just to be clear.
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I have to go to work now,but No I just didn't wake up politically,but all the examples that I have seen lately makes me think that the left the far left that is, wants to change this country into something else.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    See here's what I do not understand.... The Dems have control of the Congress and can't pass things as they please, so how exactly are they transforming the nation? Last I checked both Dems and Reps are responsible for voting in most of the stuff you're complaining about. Also, did you just wake up politically - how come much of this "responsibility and accountability" has spurred out of the blue? Where has this been for the past few decades? Seems like it only veers its head out when a Democrat is in office... why is that?
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I'll give you that ,but I believe Obama is an Overdrive and he is intentionally trying to bring this country down and transform it into something we are not.
    aerial wrote:
    I agree and the answer is not more Government Rule.....the answer is to hold everyone in the White House accountable for there actions
    no, people woke up when an african american won the election and is now running their precious country....gotta love that hatriotism..

    :roll: :roll: :roll: For real ? That's really pathetic. It has nothing to do with skin color. See this is the kind of crap that the left spews. I guees the blacks at the tea parties hate black people too. :roll: grow up dude
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    See here's what I do not understand.... The Dems have control of the Congress and can't pass things as they please, so how exactly are they transforming the nation? Last I checked both Dems and Reps are responsible for voting in most of the stuff you're complaining about. Also, did you just wake up politically - how come much of this "responsibility and accountability" has spurred out of the blue? Where has this been for the past few decades? Seems like it only veers its head out when a Democrat is in office... why is that?
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I'll give you that ,but I believe Obama is an Overdrive and he is intentionally trying to bring this country down and transform it into something we are not.
    aerial wrote:
    I agree and the answer is not more Government Rule.....the answer is to hold everyone in the White House accountable for there actions
    no, people woke up when an african american won the election and is now running their precious country....gotta love that hatriotism..
    spin spin spin....... nothing concret to say then just pull out the race card.....nothing new
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    hahaha ... far left!?? ... america has never even seen left let alone far left ... if you guys wanna see which countries are left - just look at the ones ranked highest in the UN human development index ...
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Don't forget about the Black Helicopters and the Contrails of Doom.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I have to go to work now,but No I just didn't wake up politically,but all the examples that I have seen lately makes me think that the left the far left that is, wants to change this country into something else.

    define "something else" please...

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