no wonder the midwest and south get left out.

ARazorbackguy1

It's Sunday after tickets went on sale and you can still get lower level seats for both KC and St. Louis. Weak!!

I'm all for PJ coming to see us, but if we can't produce a sellout of at least the lower level then I don't blame them for not coming back.

bootlegger10

Maybe Pearl Jam isn't the great American rock 'n roll band you all claim it is. It is not a problem with the south or midwest, it is up to the band and its music to draw in the fans.

OceansMagnet

Umm, There are like 2 months left to sell tickets before the show... and what does the South have to do with KC or StL?

ARazorbackguy1

That or maybe they should play an outstanding show in the South, rather than just showing up. i.e. Little Rock in 2003. I was very disappointed with that show.

EquallyWorthless

ARazorbackguy1 wrote:

That or maybe they should play an outstanding show in the South, rather than just showing up. i.e. Little Rock in 2003. I was very disappointed with that show.

Its not only the south that gets shows like that, its like are you 100% dynamite at work every fucking day?

AmishGuy91

Domino effect...the less they play around here the less their concerts will sell when they eventually do play. But don't compare STL or KC to Dallas or Houston, which would sell very well.

OceansMagnet

Honestly I would be shocked if they EVER played Little Rock again.. If they EVER play the South again we will be lucky to get a Memphis show (FedEx Forum desperately wants to host Large market entertainment) an Atlanta date (obviously), possibly Nashville, WPB, Tampa, Dallas, Houston, Austin, and maybe Raleigh.. no town smaller than that..
I seriously doubt we will ever see a show in Birmingham, Little Rock, or Louisville again... I'd LOVE to be wrong though..

ARazorbackguy1

bhigh901 wrote:

Honestly I would be shocked if they EVER played Little Rock again.. If they EVER play the South again we will be lucky to get a Memphis show (FedEx Forum desperately wants to host Large market entertainment) an Atlanta date (obviously), possibly Nashville, WPB, Tampa, Dallas, Houston, Austin, and maybe Raleigh.. no town smaller than that..
I seriously doubt we will ever see a show in Birmingham, Little Rock, or Louisville again... I'd LOVE to be wrong though..

I agree with ya. The Dallas show in '03 was bad ass. Of course, I was 9th row the closest I've ever been

mfc2006

i think it's safe to say that they would sell out in Dallas, Houston, Austin & San Antonio.

ARazorbackguy1

EquallyWorthless wrote:

ARazorbackguy1 wrote:

That or maybe they should play an outstanding show in the South, rather than just showing up. i.e. Little Rock in 2003. I was very disappointed with that show.

Its not only the south that gets shows like that, its like are you 100% dynamite at work every fucking day?

Let's see, I work 260 days a year and get paid minimally. PJ works maybe 50 - 75 days a year and make hundreds of thousands..

I think they can bring it for 2 hours a day

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

you wont sell out if people dont even know you're still around.

plus they could swallow their pride and play smaller venues. but that wont happen.

and yeah Knoxville was a pretty bad show too. they didnt seem to want to be there.

LukinFan

bhigh901 wrote:

Umm, There are like 2 months left to sell tickets before the show... and what does the South have to do with KC or StL?

yeah, I was wondering the same damn thing

ARazorbackguy1

LukinFan wrote:

bhigh901 wrote:

Umm, There are like 2 months left to sell tickets before the show... and what does the South have to do with KC or StL?

yeah, I was wondering the same damn thing

Midwest and South get left out of the PJ touring system at about the same rate. Oh, and I live in the south and am traveling to the midwest for the show. That's what it has to do with the south.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

ARazorbackguy1 wrote:

LukinFan wrote:

bhigh901 wrote:

Umm, There are like 2 months left to sell tickets before the show... and what does the South have to do with KC or StL?

yeah, I was wondering the same damn thing

Midwest and South get left out of the PJ touring system at about the same rate. Oh, and I live in the south and am traveling to the midwest for the show. That's what it has to do with the south.

really pretty much everywhere but the coasts. could probably add the southwest and mountains to that list.

William Wallace

MrSmith wrote:

plus they could swallow their pride and play smaller venues. but that wont happen.

Exactly this is the point.
When all those people from NY or Boston brag about their shows selling out fast, they should think about the fact that these are areas with a population of millions of people.
When the band plays less populated areas, they can still play smaller venues which will sell out for sure.

cifrancgx

ARazorbackguy1 wrote:

It's Sunday after tickets went on sale and you can still get lower level seats for both KC and St. Louis. Weak!!

I'm all for PJ coming to see us, but if we can't produce a sellout of at least the lower level then I don't blame them for not coming back.

The reality is that Pearl Jam isn't the popular band they used to be. So selling out even lower level seats in places like KC and St. Louis are going to take a little more time than a few days. I don't think PJ cares how fast they sell as long as they do sell and they have over a month to do so for the MO shows.

If PJ wants to play shows that sell out within minutes then they need to open up for someone like Taylor Swift.

ComeToTX

AmishGuy91 wrote:

Domino effect...the less they play around here the less their concerts will sell when they eventually do play. But don't compare STL or KC to Dallas or Houston, which would sell very well.

exactly. playing both cities hurts too. Dallas then KC would have been much better.

mudhoney_253

bhigh901 wrote:

Umm, There are like 2 months left to sell tickets before the show... and what does the South have to do with KC or StL?

South of Chicago?

Slow Moe

Or maybe it's bc all us PJ fans from the midwest don't have a problem with ROAD TRIPS & helping you fill up your arenas on the west coast & east coast, while the fans on the coast don't like to wander too far from home? Plus the fans from outside the USA can probably get to NYC, Philly & Boston a lot easier than KC or StL. I don't know - just another possible theory.
Whatever the reason, don't trash your fellow PJ fans from the midwest or the south. We're doing OUR part by supporting the guys and will welcome fans from around the world to join us for the party!

InHerOwnWorld

Slow Moe wrote:

Or maybe it's bc all us PJ fans from the midwest don't have a problem with ROAD TRIPS & helping you fill up your arenas on the west coast & east coast, while the fans on the coast don't like to wander too far from home? Plus the fans from outside the USA can probably get to NYC, Philly & Boston a lot easier than KC or StL. I don't know - just another possible theory.
Whatever the reason, don't trash your fellow PJ fans from the midwest or the south. We're doing OUR part by supporting the guys and will welcome fans from around the world to join us for the party!

Exactly! :roll:

AmentsChick

William Wallace wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

plus they could swallow their pride and play smaller venues. but that wont happen.

Exactly this is the point.
When all those people from NY or Boston brag about their shows selling out fast, they should think about the fact that these are areas with a population of millions of people.
When the band plays less populated areas, they can still play smaller venues which will sell out for sure.

By that theory, since Dallas is a larger city than San Diego, it would sell out faster than SD. This is simply not true. You have to factor in other issues such as, I don't know....music taste?

P.S. Texas has 3 of the top 10 most populated cities. So much for that theory! :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un ... population

KingJeremyD

I think the show in St.Louis will do pretty well as far as ticket sales...But, it has been a long six years since pearl jam played St.Louis for the VFC tour...I think the Scott Trade center holds around 19,000...Not sure if that is the total with fans on the floor?...I know the radio stations here in the St.Louis area have been advertising the pearl jam concert often..

Jeremy

tubes10s

the fans that will be there to see Pearl Jam for the midwest shows will be just as excited to see the band as the fans anywhere else. that's all that matters.

nicksmith33

MrSmith wrote:

and yeah Knoxville was a pretty bad show too. they didnt seem to want to be there.

Yeah, that was my first PJ show and had fantastic seats, but remember being slightly insulted by a few of Ed's comments. Something to the effect of stuck in the middle of fucking Tennessee with nothing to do but jerk off. Don't quote me, but something like that. And I understand it's not the mecca that the almighty MSG is, but still no reason to be degrading to everyone. I have to say, though, Bonnaroo was not that way and it truly is in the middle of nowhere. Lexington was better and Cincy was great. Seemed like the first time I saw them was actually probably the worst. Like you say, just sort of going though the motions. I like to think that maybe it was the fact that it was earlier in their careers and there was still somewhat of an arrogance there and maybe that has dimmed with age. At least I hope that's what it was and that they don't think they are truly too good to play to all us rednecks in the south. But then again, can't fault them for following the easier money.

in eds tree

tubes10s wrote:

the fans that will be there to see Pearl Jam for the midwest shows will be just as excited to see the band as the fans anywhere else. that's all that matters.

amen.

this is just silly. because midwest shows don't sell out as fast they shouldn't get the privilege of having them play here? god you guys are reaching.

KingJeremyD

Do you think pearl jam tries to perform better in the major market cities?...{MSG, Boston, Philly}...I have seen pearl jam twice at MSG...The first one was the first night at MSG on the Riot Act tour..Which I thought was an excellent show..The second time was on this last little tour on the second night...I thought the was good but nothing super special...


I just don't understand why some of the other cities that aren't major market cities can't get some sort of speical setlist or special show....

I know out east there is more pearl jam fans and more album sales...

Don't get me wrong every pearl jam concert I have attended have been good..Some better than others...But, have to give props to pearl jam/management for scheduling some shows in the midwest region...

Jeremy

Kevinman

Is there really a need for this thread? If when these shows happen they are only half-full, then maybe a thread like this is warranted, but not now.

KingJeremyD

Good Point Kevinman...I think all the midwest shows will do great as far as ticket sales..

Jeremy

MM5169

I was at the little rock show

drove back to kc overnight, slept all day and went to the Royals game
that next night where I met Mike and Ed

they were there with jeff, boom, boom's gal, and k curtis

mike is a really effing nice dude

doompony

William Wallace wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

plus they could swallow their pride and play smaller venues. but that wont happen.

Exactly this is the point.
When all those people from NY or Boston brag about their shows selling out fast, they should think about the fact that these are areas with a population of millions of people.
When the band plays less populated areas, they can still play smaller venues which will sell out for sure.

...they played in auckland and sold out 35K really quickly.. the population of the entire country is 4 million....

Smellyman

ARazorbackguy1 wrote:

EquallyWorthless wrote:

ARazorbackguy1 wrote:

That or maybe they should play an outstanding show in the South, rather than just showing up. i.e. Little Rock in 2003. I was very disappointed with that show.

Its not only the south that gets shows like that, its like are you 100% dynamite at work every fucking day?

Let's see, I work 260 days a year and get paid minimally. PJ works maybe 50 - 75 days a year and make hundreds of thousands..

I think they can bring it for 2 hours a day

looks pretty kick ass to me

06/10/03 – Alltel Arena: Little Rock, AR

support act: Idlewild

set: Arc, Save You, Animal, Grievance, Corduroy, Love Boat Captain, Cropduster, Even Flow, Light Years, Lukin, Insignificance, You Are, Thumbing My Way, Better Man/(Save It For Later), Alive, Do The Evolution
enc 1: Given To Fly, I Believe In Miracles, Elderly Woman, Sleight Of Hand, Fortunate Son
enc 2: The Kids Are Alright, Last Kiss, Baba O’Riley
notes: Unusual ‘Arc’ opener. After ‘Corduroy,’ Ed greets the crowd: “How’s everybody in Little Rock? You sound like big rock. Is there such a thing as big rock?” He dedicates the show to Damien, Jason and Jessie, holding up a banner from the crowd that says “Free WM3.” He adds, “Next time we play, we want them to be right there.” Ed chats about the great crew and how hot the southwestern shows have been but how they’ve appreciated the great response. He jokes that there is a single guy watching and masturbating to “Three’s Company” in a skybox, and that this is his segue into a “sensitive song” leading to ‘Thumbing My Way.’ Long ‘SIFL’ tag, including modified lyrics. Returning for the encore, Ed speaks about the West Memphis Three again and how they are trying to support them. Later, “This is one we only do when we feel real comfortable,” leads to ‘Sleight Of Hand.’ Returning for the second encore, Ed praises the crowd for “being so much better than Texas” and says their president was better than the one that came from Texas, too. He talks about the trucks and how there is one just to carry their (the band’s) opinions. He also discusses the Pete Townshend situation and how the media wrongly portrayed him (and that he has been cleared) and then proceeds to play a solo version of ‘The Kids Are Alright’ for Pete. After ‘Baba,’ Mike changes guitars and looks ready to play another song but Ed says goodnight and rest of the band goes off stage. Good spirits, good energy.