Pearl Jam Fan Created Blu Ray - Lets do it!

smanchac
smanchac Posts: 255
edited March 2010 in The Porch
This thread is for people who are interested in helping to produce and film a live, fan created dvd/blu ray. And, to see if you, the fan, might be interested in having a free, live pearl jam video. If you are interested please read below! I'm also open for suggestion, ideas, locations, everything. Any input would be appreciated! And the more posts, the more attention, and, maybe we can get with the right group of people. Getting the initial footage is the EASY part. Once we have it, and it exists, i know we can get this to happen.


Every few weeks im looking. Checking again online looking...

I have a great 7.1 surround sound blu ray player, as well as a 52" sony bravia tv.

Im always looking for a pearl jam blu ray. Seems there isnt one planned, or, there is no news of one.

So i looked at what exists and thought why couldnt we do it our selves? Here's a real example of that happening.

I'm a big fan of Nine Inch Nails. Over the last year ive been part of a group called This Ones On Us.

During the last year this group has worked togother with people not only across the us but the world. Heres what they did.

The group traveled to the west coast. They attened 3 shows, vancouver, portland and sacramento. Togother, using modern age email and cell phones, they planned. They atteneded the shows, About 15-20 people. They all had "ALLOWED" hand held hd cameras, the ones the size of nikon coolpix. Around the size of a pack of smokes or a cassette tape. Their goal was to capture as much hd footage as possible.

When all was done, they released it - nearly 500 gigs of raw hd footage. This was distributed using modern age torrents and file shares. Nothing that is hard to be done. When this happened, it was done saying "compile your own edits - lets see what you come up with" And the response was amazing. People download the files, and were shocked to see nearly 20 sources for each show. One standard camera dead center, and the rest hand held shots with people using basic skills like not shaking the camera and focusing on indivuals so it wasnt all of one peron, easy stuff. When they saw that, people started making rough cuts. And dont get me wrong, over the last year, ive seen 5 versions of the concert. But then a group got smart. What if they could take it and through colarboration with others make the best show they could, and after a year of work, they have - the gift. What started out as an idea has now been turned into a 100% amazing concert film. When trent reznor heard what was going on, he released the gift to us, which was a 5.1 surround sound track to accompany the film.

So as of now, the film is being finalized to the last drop. Enough money, nearly 10,000 dollars in donations have been given to the site, that people who signed up for this free dvd or blu ray will reiceve a 3 disc set, a blu ray disc of the concert in 1080p with 5.1 dolby digital surround sound, a dvd with bonus features and a 3rd dvd with Lights in the Sky - vegas, the last show of that tour with a more raw, bootleg cut.

Trent rezonor has now listed it on his main site in support of this free show, numerous twitter references by other musicians as well as alot of magazines, including rolling stone, has talked abut the project.

And did i mention that this is out there, as a free dual layer, color corrected, extremly edited and alot of hard work, as a torrent off of the site http://thisoneisonus.org/node/34

They even have a blu ray torrent coming soon, as well as a physical release of nearly 5000 discs being pressed, for nothing more than shipping?! I paid 6 dollars for a 3 disc set of blu ray and 2 dvd. And if i wanted them for free i could download them, but i don't have a blu ray burner.

And for those who would like to take a look now, the entire show is available on you tube right now in 1080p, here is the links for that - http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... type=&aq=1

The Big Come Down (just 1 of 2 that i thought looked really well)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ak15PpP ... 7&index=19

Only (just 2 of 2 that i thought looked really well)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAVdsgH9Rpk

So - Her'es what i would like to give the idea for, maybe people willing to help could post a reply here and we can get it organized, WE COULD DO SOMETHING GREAT! If people got together and threw out ideas, we also could get a fan produced show out there. And if we got the work done, you know if the band saw it they wouldn't oblige to it.

So what are your ideas? We could copy exactly what they did. And we could do it great. What do you say?

And if im being over zealous, well, why not? Its 2010 and alot of us have great technology that we pay alot for, computers, internet, cameras, phones with camears, tvs, big ass tvs, blu ray players... etc etc, and why not take advanage of the fact that our phones shoot hd and do something great, something that will go all around the world? That's how i see it anyway.

I know i would watch a pearl jam blu ray with High Definition sound. I would like that alot :)
2000 10.14 10.15
2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
2004 10.8
2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

35 Shows; 1040 Songs
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  • smanchac
    smanchac Posts: 255
    no one is interested?
    bump
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • The problem is, PJ doesn't allow video cameras at shows
  • t0mMye
    t0mMye Posts: 821
    Great idea if it can be done..
    Ten Club # 433608, when I am 80 I will be in the front row!
  • mensane
    mensane Posts: 912
    would never happen. the pearl jam tapers like to keep their footage to themselves.
  • smanchac
    smanchac Posts: 255
    mensane wrote:
    would never happen. the pearl jam tapers like to keep their footage to themselves.

    Thats why i came here and threw out the idea that we could come together and share our footage

    and
    The problem is, PJ doesn't allow video cameras at shows

    but they do allow small hand held cameras. I have a camera i bought for 89 that will shoot hd video also, and its the size of a cassette tape!

    I dont mean we go in with tv cameras or anything.

    You get 20 people to work together, you can come out with something great.

    And, maybe its just me, but at every show, i see nothing but probably 2000 camera phones taking pictures and small video shots during every show i go to. Why not collaborate and try and and get some people to go to like Kansas and Missouri to try and get something done.

    Please don't squash the idea, lets try and take the positive and see what happens.
    And, if it were to come together, i know people squashing the idea wouldn't not download the torrent. probably everyone on here would love someone to post a link to ANY show on video in a torrent, much less a multi cam edit of something.

    Opinions, anyone?
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Would this look good on a blu-ray though?
  • smanchac
    smanchac Posts: 255
    take a look, it was all shot in 1080p, and then sent to people who volunteered to work on the project, people who have editing equipment already. I know that the final version looks great. Here is what the nin team did, check out how good it looks here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ak15PpP ... re=related

    if your computer can, watch it in 1080 p

    let me know what you think!

    Steve
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • smanchac
    smanchac Posts: 255
    here is another, better link to show off what can be done

    head like a hole by nine inch nails

    all done with small phones and edited down.

    watch in 1080p
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT7QUjKV ... re=related
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • smanchac
    smanchac Posts: 255
    I know the more people that see this will want to help...
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,853
    smanchac wrote:
    I know the more people that see this will want to help...

    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=91525

    9. Please respect the band's Taping & Camera policy (https://www.pearljam.com/tenclub).
    Trading audience-recorded PJ shows even-up, ok. No video. Bootlegs: Selling, linking to, or making offers are not ok. 2 for 1 trades is making profit, not ok.

    We can't talk about fan made video recordings of the Pearl Jam. Outside the boards, underground groups & local trading communities .. go nuts.

    I wish someday the rules got broken & PJ followed the way's of NIN & many other artists. Sony isn't in control anymore. They are on their own now, just like NIN. Cause there is a huge Pearl Jam fan base community out there & we are all living in a digital world. But it makes you wonder why the madness & why the strict no cameras, no audio & no video during the Vedder solo show's. You couldn't even post a photo, an audio clip or a video clip on youtube.com or on the web. Links would be taken down asap. It was pretty wild. PJ have always been audio friendly for year's now (well, on the gear you would bring to the shows), but for video, it's a no go.

    Believe me, I am a follower of the arts of b+p'ing, trading, torrenting & freebing PJ goodies for year's. This stuff can't be talked about here. Until change happens, the underground path is in our favor for now.
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    7.1 :-o

    aren't things maxed out at 5.1 anyway?
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,853
    Brisk. wrote:
    7.1 :-o

    aren't things maxed out at 5.1 anyway?

    The Bluray offer's Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio! *drools

    Whereas digital 5.1 surround delivers sound from the front, middle and rear, 7.1 digital surround fully surrounds you with audio from the front, middle, rear and sides.

    I can't wait for 8.1. Audio will be coming from the bottom & top of your forehead! :shock:
  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I guess what I'd say publicly is I'm a HUGE fan of NIN, a member of ets, have met a couple of the folks involved with This one is on us and am super-proud of the NIN community and what they've accomplished with The Gift, and Another Version of the Truth. I hope that PJ allows this sort of thing in the future. It gets attention from good online entities and I think, helps the band be out there and publicized. Showing the world what a capable and enthusiastic fan base you have can only be a good thing IMO.
    R.i.p. Rigoberto Alpizar.
    R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
    R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
  • t0mMye
    t0mMye Posts: 821
    Brisk. wrote:
    7.1 :-o

    aren't things maxed out at 5.1 anyway?

    Blu-ray maxes out at 8 channels... i.e. 7.1
    Ten Club # 433608, when I am 80 I will be in the front row!
  • t0mMye
    t0mMye Posts: 821
    Absolutely PJ would allow this if it was cleared through them before hand and someone has the lead on it. All footage could be screened by them first. It promotes them, sells their music/shows and God forbid...could draw a new fan or 2 into the mix. Nothing bad could come of this IMO.
    Ten Club # 433608, when I am 80 I will be in the front row!
  • Yea, don't get me wrong. I would love to see it happen, and participate I have a lot of exprerience in video editing and would LOVE to cut a bunch of footage together. I guess if everyone did come together and used cell phone and maybe even flip cam video it could be done. Especially since we will have the official bootleg to use as the audio track
  • smanchac
    smanchac Posts: 255
    Hi.

    Thanks for the good words.

    I agree with the no taping policy, if that's whats in place, then fine.

    What im trying to say is we could do this with our "allowed" camera, ie hand held digital cameras that also capture video.

    You buy a larger sd card, and your hand held camera is now an hd camera.

    It doesnt take a professional team to organize.

    If im asked to remove this thread, then i could. Could someone please tell me where would be more appropriate than the bands message board to get this idea moving?
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • ADogNamedPilate
    ADogNamedPilate Texas, USA Posts: 291
    i don't have any resources to directly contribute to such a project but sign me up for a copy.
    Austin City Limits - Oct 04, 2009
  • smanchac
    smanchac Posts: 255
    i don't have any resources to directly contribute to such a project but sign me up for a copy.

    :) That's how it starts :)
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • t0mMye
    t0mMye Posts: 821
    You would need a lot of people in the front rows for decent video...good news is that it would instantly look better then the video on Touring Band 2000
    Ten Club # 433608, when I am 80 I will be in the front row!