You're kidding right?....elaborate.....I think we need some examples..before answering such an open-ended question.....
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Stanhope, NJ - Aug 1992
Hartford, CT - Jun 2008 (Yes! Finally!!)
Hartford, CT - May 2010 (Again locked out of msg! S**T!!)
Dublin 02 Arena - 22/6/10. Belfast Odyssey Arena - 23/6/10. London Hyde Park - 25/6/10. Berlin Wuhlheide - 30/6/10.
Manchester MEN - 20/06/12. Manchester MEN - 21/06/12
I'm personally not saying he did. Never said that. I am just asking the question. He;s not my fav drummer for the band. But I like him. Just wanted other people's opinions.
Wachovia Center, Philadelphia - 10/3/05
Tweeter Center, Camden - 5/27/06
Verizon Center, Wash. DC - 5/30/06
Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN - 6/14/08
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 6/19/08
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/28/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/30/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/31/09
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 5/21/10
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 10/21/13
1st Mariner Arena, Baltimore - 10/27/13 Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 4/28/16 Enterprise Center, Saint Louis - 9/18/22
Seriously...when you have been following this band for as long as some of us have....it's obvious that the band and there music have matured along with the fans.....that maturity really rings true in the last two studio albums....
MATT ROCKS!!
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Stanhope, NJ - Aug 1992
Hartford, CT - Jun 2008 (Yes! Finally!!)
Hartford, CT - May 2010 (Again locked out of msg! S**T!!)
I thought this topic was going to be about matt ruining this tour because he is going to be doing the soundgarden reunion, that might be a possibility. But there is no way that Matt ruined the band, its ridiculous to say otherwise
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"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Please I beg for your forgiveness in bringing this subject up. Please spare me. I am sorry. Love you all.
Drop and give me 50!
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Band had a problem with Dave, and fired him for whatever reason. (I preferred Dave's playing though)
Band asked Jack to play with them. JACK saved PJ from implosion, and changed the way the music was performed live and the mood of the music/band.
When Jack couldn't continue playing live, the band asked Matt Cameron to play. Matt allowed the band to continue, and also changed the way the music was performed live, though I still give Jack the credit for saving the band.
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*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
NO! Matt was destined to be in Pearl Jam. He played on Stone's demo way back, Temple, toured with PJ while in SG. It was meant to be.
Jack saved the band, Matt provided the solid foundation they needed to be the greatest American rock band of all time!
IMO
Good points! I used to not like Matts drums too much when he first joined.. I think it was because I really liked Jacks loose, kinda tribal beats. Of course, No COde and Yield are my two favorites. But over time I began to appreciate Matt more. He's a bad mutha and solid as hell. I think I love his drums the best on 1/2 full and also on Got Some.
Matt didn't ruin PJ. Not at all. No complaint here. But...there's a always going to be a question in my mind about what the band would sound like today if Jack was still in the band. Nothing negative about Matt, I just know that Jack had an a different influence on the band and it was pretty obvious. That can be said of any band that has had a change in creative influence through changes in personel. It's apples and oranges though.
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There is no discussion to be had on this topic. in fact, he may have saved Pearl Jam
You're kidding right?....elaborate.....I think we need some examples..before answering such an open-ended question.....
Stanhope, NJ - Aug 1992
Hartford, CT - Jun 2008 (Yes! Finally!!)
Hartford, CT - May 2010 (Again locked out of msg! S**T!!)
Dublin 02 Arena - 22/6/10. Belfast Odyssey Arena - 23/6/10. London Hyde Park - 25/6/10. Berlin Wuhlheide - 30/6/10.
Manchester MEN - 20/06/12. Manchester MEN - 21/06/12
Exactly!
it's Stones fault
Tweeter Center, Camden - 5/27/06
Verizon Center, Wash. DC - 5/30/06
Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN - 6/14/08
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 6/19/08
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/28/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/30/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/31/09
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 5/21/10
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 10/21/13
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 4/28/16
Enterprise Center, Saint Louis - 9/18/22
Can I second that?
but seriously we all love you Stone
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Seriously...when you have been following this band for as long as some of us have....it's obvious that the band and there music have matured along with the fans.....that maturity really rings true in the last two studio albums....
MATT ROCKS!!
Stanhope, NJ - Aug 1992
Hartford, CT - Jun 2008 (Yes! Finally!!)
Hartford, CT - May 2010 (Again locked out of msg! S**T!!)
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
30 lashes with a wet noodle should appease the masses.
PJ isn't ruined.
Drop and give me 50!
Jack saved the band, Matt provided the solid foundation they needed to be the greatest American rock band of all time!
IMO
mawfordinks.....is your name Dave Abbruzzese :?:
6/24/08 (MSG1)
6/25/08 (MSG2)
7/1/08 (Beacon Theater -NYC)
10/30/09 (Philly3)
5/18/10 (Newark, NJ)
5/20/10 (MSG1)
5/21/10 (MSG2)
10/18/13 (Brooklyn 1)
10/19/13 (Brooklyn 2)
5/1/16 (MSG 1)
5/2/16 (MSG 2)
3/30/20 (MSG)
9/3/24 I(MSG1)
9/4/24 (MSG 2)
Verizon Center-Washington, DC--June 22, 2008
Lyric Opera House-Baltimore, MD--June 14, 2009(Eddie Vedder Solo)
Wachovia Spectrum-Philadelphia, PA--Oct 31, 2009
I Only Own My Mind...
Band had a problem with Dave, and fired him for whatever reason. (I preferred Dave's playing though)
Band asked Jack to play with them. JACK saved PJ from implosion, and changed the way the music was performed live and the mood of the music/band.
When Jack couldn't continue playing live, the band asked Matt Cameron to play. Matt allowed the band to continue, and also changed the way the music was performed live, though I still give Jack the credit for saving the band.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Good points! I used to not like Matts drums too much when he first joined.. I think it was because I really liked Jacks loose, kinda tribal beats. Of course, No COde and Yield are my two favorites. But over time I began to appreciate Matt more. He's a bad mutha and solid as hell. I think I love his drums the best on 1/2 full and also on Got Some.