Why do BOSTON / NYC / PHILLY get all the shows?

aNiMaL

Solat13 wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

clubber987 wrote:

...... and HARTFORD haha ?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Because they sellout immediately. Look at the rest of these joke towns, tickets are still available. I don't wanna hear another complaint about PJ not visiting your area if you can't even support them. They could play Boston / NYC / Philly every weekend and sellout within minutes.

Cleveland, Noblesville, and Columbus will be 90-95% full.........If not complete sellouts....

I am willing to bet you 5 candy bars on this.....

I remember the Gorge did not sell out of ten club tix in 2006 and night 2 wasn't even sold out after the general sale. But you don't ever see people say that that region can't support Pearl Jam.

Yeah, that is true. A little unfair as the Gorge is 150 miles from the Seattle area out in the middle of nowhere, USA, and that second show was on a Sunday.

That said, there is no denying that the area of the country that has the highest population per capita, also has the highest number of 10c members. It doesn't make any of those fans any better of fans than those in other parts of the world, it just means there are more of them in a much smaller area.

Solat13

aNiMaL wrote:

Solat13 wrote:

I remember the Gorge did not sell out of ten club tix in 2006 and night 2 wasn't even sold out after the general sale. But you don't ever see people say that that region can't support Pearl Jam.

Yeah, that is true. A little unfair as the Gorge is 150 miles from the Seattle area out in the middle of nowhere, USA, and that second show was on a Sunday.

That said, there is no denying that the area of the country that has the highest population per capita, also has the highest number of 10c members. It doesn't make any of those fans any better of fans than those in other parts of the world, it just means there are more of them in a much smaller area.

Totally agree. I hate seeing threads saying my town is better than yours and my region is better than yours.

And just because ten club tix sell out doesn't mean the venue sells out. Philly Spectrum 1 last year wasn't sold out and neither was Camden 2 in 2008.

jamminpearls

Solat13 wrote:

aNiMaL wrote:

Solat13 wrote:

I remember the Gorge did not sell out of ten club tix in 2006 and night 2 wasn't even sold out after the general sale. But you don't ever see people say that that region can't support Pearl Jam.

Yeah, that is true. A little unfair as the Gorge is 150 miles from the Seattle area out in the middle of nowhere, USA, and that second show was on a Sunday.

That said, there is no denying that the area of the country that has the highest population per capita, also has the highest number of 10c members. It doesn't make any of those fans any better of fans than those in other parts of the world, it just means there are more of them in a much smaller area.

Totally agree. I hate seeing threads saying my town is better than yours and my region is better than yours.

And just because ten club tix sell out doesn't mean the venue sells out. Philly Spectrum 1 last year wasn't sold out and neither was Camden 2 in 2008.

philly 1 didn't sell out because it was the last show to go on sale and everyone already got tickets to the other 3. As for Camden 2 if it wasn't a sellout then it was 95% or better. im not sayn my city which is your city is better then anyone elses. my point is that if u want PJ to come around your neck of the woods then u better hope 90% of the venue is sold out period.

OceansMagnet

clubber987 wrote:

...... and HARTFORD haha ?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Because they sellout immediately. Look at the rest of these joke towns, tickets are still available. I don't wanna hear another complaint about PJ not visiting your area if you can't even support them. They could play Boston / NYC / Philly every weekend and sellout within minutes.

:evil: First off, your reference to midwest and southern cities as "joke towns" is offensive and unneccessary and goes against the basic guidelines set out for this forum. :x Next.. If Philly, New York, or Boston were as neglected as southern and middle america don't you think many members would cease to renew? I live in Nashville and am fortunate to have the time and resources to travel to see the band. Many others from here don't have that luxury due to financial constraints, time commitments, or family obligations. Last time the band played a proper show in Nashville was to a SOLD OUT crowd in 2003. Ed played 2 SOLD OUT solo shows here last year, but nearly every fanclub member I know from here got shut out on tickets through the lottery system they put in place and had to purchase them elsewhere. So as of right now it has been 7 years since they have played here. 7 yrs x $20 = $140 in membership dues for zero Pearl Jam shows and getting shut out of the EV solo shows.. For these people tenclub membership is obviously not a good value. Same goes for Kansas City, St. Louis, Indy, Columbus... and Finally.. Sure touring isn't cheap, but come on, do you honestly think Pearl Jam sweats over making sure they can get EVERY possible dollar by selling EVERY possible seat?? and if it isn't about the money, do you think their ego's are so fragile that they would be bothered by playing a 3/4 full arena? Go listen to Salt Lake City boot from last year and you will see otherwise.. That show was 3/4 full at best and it kicked major ass.. I'm sure Ed still managed to put a little something into Olivia's college fund that night..

OceansMagnet

Oh yeah.. almost forgot..PLAY THE SOUTH!!!

FiveB247x

The truth no one wants to hear is that besides the most available 10C members in the biggest or most accessible cities is the fact that people want to travel to these cities. No offense to other cities, but not many people aren't willing to travel to a mid-level city to see a band, even if they love them. Perhaps if they're close in proximity then yes, but to fly or travel many hours of great distance, it's less likely. That's just something that the NYC's, Boston and Philly's can offer that many others can not.

merlin2600

FiveB247x wrote:

The truth no one wants to hear is that besides the most available 10C members in the biggest or most accessible cities is the fact that people want to travel to these cities. No offense to other cities, but not many people aren't willing to travel to a mid-level city to see a band, even if they love them. Perhaps if they're close in proximity then yes, but to fly or travel many hours of great distance, it's less likely. That's just something that the NYC's, Boston and Philly's can offer that many others can not.

I think you have a point. I live an hour from Buffalo, so sure, going there to see PJ is awesome for me. It also means I don't have to STAY in Buffalo overnight. Anyone who's been to that venue knows it's in a terrible part of town, unlike, say, MSG or the Garden in Boston. Not to mention NYC and Boston are destinations unto themselves. No one says "You know, I've never been to Buffalo, this will be the perfect opportunity!"

primitiveshirts.com

because the east coast is where its at, shows here have so much more energy than anywhere else,

also, i think Eddie was talking about how the cd sale were highest in the pennslyvania area during the riot act tour.

qcrete

too bad to ten club allotment for these cities(Boston, NYC & Hartford CT) were not expanded and sold today or tomorrow before the ticketmaster public sale

Indifference

Solat13 wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

clubber987 wrote:

...... and HARTFORD haha ?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Because they sellout immediately. Look at the rest of these joke towns, tickets are still available. I don't wanna hear another complaint about PJ not visiting your area if you can't even support them. They could play Boston / NYC / Philly every weekend and sellout within minutes.

Cleveland, Noblesville, and Columbus will be 90-95% full.........If not complete sellouts....

I am willing to bet you 5 candy bars on this.....

I remember the Gorge did not sell out of ten club tix in 2006 and night 2 wasn't even sold out after the general sale. But you don't ever see people say that that region can't support Pearl Jam.

Not sure about the 10c tix and gorge but it was packed in the seats at the Gorge that day just a lot empty space in the GA - think a lot of people bailed on the show because it was like 115 degrees out.

Indifference

These areguments seem redunant. First its the NorthEast gets too many shows why don't they play the midwest or south. So then when those 10c tiks don't sell as well its - we don't have as many people. Aren't those 2 related. If an area as 10-20 times the people shouldn't they get 10-20 as many shows?

neilybabes86

easy money + great crowds no brainer

Mahaloev

FiveB247x wrote:

The truth no one wants to hear is that besides the most available 10C members in the biggest or most accessible cities is the fact that people want to travel to these cities. No offense to other cities, but not many people aren't willing to travel to a mid-level city to see a band, even if they love them. Perhaps if they're close in proximity then yes, but to fly or travel many hours of great distance, it's less likely. That's just something that the NYC's, Boston and Philly's can offer that many others can not.

In the last six years or maybe even longer, I've enjoyed traveling somewhere else to see Pearl Jam perform in another city besides the east coast. Since the release of 'Riot Act', it has been really hard to purchase tickets to east coast shows(fan club/public sales). I don't even try for fan club tix anymore. To much stress & shitty seats. I would have loved to fly out to KC during this leg but the weekday schedule makes it really hard with having kids. But the simple fact about Pearl Jam always touring the east coast is money. I'll wait until the band returns from Europe & enjoy the summer months because I guarantee you there will be a mid west/west coast tour in the fall. Perfect timing for travel.

Indifference71

These "my city is better than your city" threads are ridiculous. Who gives a shit really? Does it really make you feel better that 10c tix sold out for NYC but didnt for the show in Indy? That's pretty fucking sad.

OceansMagnet

Indifference wrote:

These areguments seem redunant. First its the NorthEast gets too many shows why don't they play the midwest or south. So then when those 10c tiks don't sell as well its - we don't have as many people. Aren't those 2 related. If an area as 10-20 times the people shouldn't they get 10-20 as many shows?

We have plenty of fans here.. Just not as many tenclub members.. as my earlier post stated.. Many here opted out of tenclub after going 7+ years without a show. Last time they played here in Nashville (2003) it sold out. EV sold out 2 shows here last summer. One sold out immediatly, the 2nd sold out day of.. Sure they played Bonnaroo in 08 but that can't count as a Nashville show.. many people here won't go to the Roo.. It isn't the most comfortable or sanitary place to see your favorite band.. So you obviously aren't seeing the big picture that there are ALOT of people in other areas that want to hear them play.. They just won't shell out $20 a year for 7 to 10 years in hopes that they will eventually play in the immediate area.. I predict that ALL of the midwest shows will sell out within 72 hours of public onsale... but again.. who cares.. The shows will rock, and I will have GREAT seats with my 272*** number in the midwest where as if BY CHANCE I got Boston or NY tickets I would be in the back of the floor or in the rafters...

Horos

The east coast is where the money is. Pearl Jam doesn't care about the fans they care about the dollar. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

decides2dream

aNiMaL wrote:

That said, there is no denying that the area of the country that has the highest population per capita, also has the highest number of 10c members. It doesn't make any of those fans any better of fans than those in other parts of the world, it just means there are more of them in a much smaller area.

that's it.
no great mystery, just pure and simple math.
an easy sell.

OceansMagnet

It isn't the money it's the convenience of multiple markets near each other... These guys have spent their share of time in a cramped bus going town after town doing show after show.. Also consider the ecological impact of doing a large tour in a private jet.. You can get the most people in to see you and do the least amount of travel by playing Northeast and West Coast.. They just need to remember some of their little guys down here in the South like they have all their friends in the Midwest and plan a mini-tour visit down this way before too much longer.. Here's hoping that this year they will
PLAY THE SOUTH!!

U R A Crazy Breed

clubber987 wrote:

...... and HARTFORD haha ?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Because they sellout immediately. Look at the rest of these joke towns, tickets are still available. I don't wanna hear another complaint about PJ not visiting your area if you can't even support them. They could play Boston / NYC / Philly every weekend and sellout within minutes.

WORD!!!! that's what i'm saying kid!!!

zootown

Solat13 wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

clubber987 wrote:

...... and HARTFORD haha ?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Because they sellout immediately. Look at the rest of these joke towns, tickets are still available. I don't wanna hear another complaint about PJ not visiting your area if you can't even support them. They could play Boston / NYC / Philly every weekend and sellout within minutes.

Cleveland, Noblesville, and Columbus will be 90-95% full.........If not complete sellouts....

I am willing to bet you 5 candy bars on this.....

I remember the Gorge did not sell out of ten club tix in 2006 and night 2 wasn't even sold out after the general sale. But you don't ever see people say that that region can't support Pearl Jam.

Do you know how far the Gorge is from anything? It is in the middle of damn nowhere! Its beautiful and all, but the camping is expensive and oppressive, the cost of everything from a bottle of water to a burger is outrageous due to the monopolization of all by the venue, and it is hot as donkey balls during most of the summer....comparing the Gorge not selling out to a place like Cleveland not selling out is comparing apples and oranges.....more devoted fans go to the gorge, while I would think that in any major city (except Boston, Philly and NYC), a good proportion of the audience are casual fans or first timers even.