i think its because the recording of it was too poppy & the marketing is too mainstream that the band, particularly eddie, didn't like. so the fans, just rode on what eddie believed.
ps. i love TEN a loooooooooooooooooooooooooot....
scratching my butt...
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me rascando pompis...
krap mijn reet...
boku no ketsuoana o kizu...
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Easily snobbery and elitism. Some people are little on the inside and need to feel superior somehow, anyhow. The internet is the safest venue, because you can't see them in all their still-sucking-wounds-from-middle-school glory.
Obviously popularity is the enemy, and taking that into account it's easy to see a pattern of behavior; anything to lord over the heads of the lesser informed. Usually these are very intelligent people who are tragically stuck in time and need to find a way to inflate flacid egos. Sad.
Ten is one of the best rock albums in history. The talent hinted at is undeniable and beautifully raw.
Vitalogy is my personal favorite, but I love them all.
Thank you,
K.R. Hash
Good evening San Diego, I'm Ron Burgundy
And I'm Veronica Corningstone, Tits McGee is off tonight...
Is it just me, or does Ten got a raw deal on here? It's like you're not a 'real' fan if you like Ten.
It's as though you're only a real fan if you love No Code!
oh ffs - i love ten - i dont love it to the extent of some other pj albums ... but i love it nontheless
and ive loved it since it was released ... way back in 91 ... so if that doesnt make me a real fan im stuffed if i know what does
ten rocks
vrs rocks
vitology rocks
no code rocks
yeild rok etc etc etc
all great albums for their time, I enjoy all of them
ten was the first and a fantastic record.
IMO Ten is the best album of the 90s. No 'In Utero', no 'Dirt', no 'Badmotorfinger' - it's TEN. And i have fact's for this. TEN outsold all the others, not only in USA but in the whole world. While Nirvana had the biggest hit that defined Grunge period, Pearl Jam had the best album as a whole. That never happend after TEN, although Vs. and Vitalogy were also considered one of the best in the years they were released.
Interesting thought. I'm in my mid twenties now, and I got into Pearl Jam in 1996/97 in my early teens. The thing is, the first album I bought was Ten.
It just happens that No Code and Yield are the albums that held up the best for me. I don't dislike Ten, but as someone who doesn't listen to much hard rock the sound of the album isn't all that appealing to me these days.
I could have written this comment
I do get frustrated with Ten's popularity sometimes, especially whenever I finally get to hear PJ in a public space (on the radio or at a pub) it is never EVER anything off their other albums...it just gets old. Doesn't mean I don't still love it.
My rhymes and records they don't get played
Because my records and rhymes they don't get made
And if you rap like me you don't get paid
And if you roll like me you don't get laid.
Is it just me, or does Ten got a raw deal on here? It's like you're not a 'real' fan if you like Ten.
It's as though you're only a real fan if you love No Code!
What is it about Ten that some people don't like?! Don't get me wrong, it's not even my personal favourite Pearl Jam album but I can appreciate Ten for the master piece it is.
I know it'll forever be associated with the whole 'rise of grunge' and the 'Seattle scene' thing. I know it sold to the masses, had massive hit singles and that Pearl Jam were MTV's darlings for a while. But that doesn't make it a bad album.
As for the 'popular', 'hit' singles, nobody can tell me that Even Flow, Alive, Black and Jeremy aren't great songs. C'mon, they're classics.
Add Once, Why Go?, Oceans, Garden, Porch, Deep and, of coures Release and you've got an incredible album.
Hell, on the European version we even had Wash, Dirty Frank and Alive (live) as bonus tracks!!!
So what is it? Snobbery? Elitism? Or am I just wrong, and that Ten just isn't all that?!
maybe it is a thing that you would need to be a bit older to appreciate? I am sure that some people love Ten and are young, but I think you might need to have aged with this band if you are going to think that Ten is a great cd.
just my thoughts..........mix and stir.......and pour????????
I don't know..............
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
maybe it is a thing that you would need to be a bit older to appreciate? I am sure that some people love Ten and are young, but I think you might need to have aged with this band if you are going to think that Ten is a great cd.
just my thoughts..........mix and stir.......and pour????????
I don't know..............
What?
Good evening San Diego, I'm Ron Burgundy
And I'm Veronica Corningstone, Tits McGee is off tonight...
For most popular things, people just tend to hate over time just because it gets popular and becomes the norm to hate. Like most diehard nirvana fans I know believe that in utero trumps nevermind (Although I have an opposite opinion) Its just most things that are popular tend to get hated on over time.
Ten is landmark record though, there is no denying that, In my opinion it is pearl jams best record, because of the flow. The album flows like one big story from one song to the next, unbelievable for a first album. Sure Vitology and No Code are extremely good in there own right, but other than this forum, and the diehard fans that still attends concerts and buys the bootlegs and b sides, nobody really gives two shits about this band other than ten and vs. Had the band started with vitology as there debut, they would have gotten a different response. Most people I know say that they loved the band when they had ten, and became more disinterested over time when eddie vedder became more (to quote one of my friends) "political" with his lyrics.
Most sites like amazon and rateyourmusic.com rate ten as the best pearl jam album http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/pearl_jam (Check out the number of ratings for ten compared to their other cds.) and it drops off tremendously from there. This album saved many peoples lives It def saved my life when I first heard it, much like siamese dream and dark side of the moon did for me.
Other than this site, very few trash ten, there are more faulty shit on their other cds than ten. Sure production aside, the dopey album cover, it was released in 1991 and it wasnt supposed to be the breakthrough that it was. It was on the billboard 200 charts for 252 fucking weeks....more than vs, vitalogy, yield, and no code combined.
Sorry for this rant but this is just my take. I dont listen to this album that much anymore because I played it to fucking death, but its still one of the greatest albums of all time. Yield isnt, it has flaws and filler, so does no code, and so does Binaural. Ten imo, has very little, and people just pin point them and exaggerate them. However one gripe with ten is that the guitars become overly reverby with the production, and too much echo...but I think thats part of the charm.
I think the band doesnt like the album now because seriously, I would be tired of the praise of the album aswell. Ament said they recorded the album as an excuse to tour...bs. The magic happened when gossard did the songwriting, and eddie vedder wrote lyrics and song over them. Now they write AROUND eddies voice instead of focusing on the melody and structure of the songs.
For most popular things, people just tend to hate over time just because it gets popular and becomes the norm to hate. Like most diehard nirvana fans I know believe that in utero trumps nevermind (Although I have an opposite opinion) Its just most things that are popular tend to get hated on over time.
Ten is landmark record though, there is no denying that, In my opinion it is pearl jams best record, because of the flow. The album flows like one big story from one song to the next, unbelievable for a first album. Sure Vitology and No Code are extremely good in there own right, but other than this forum, and the diehard fans that still attends concerts and buys the bootlegs and b sides, nobody really gives two shits about this band other than ten and vs. Had the band started with vitology as there debut, they would have gotten a different response. Most people I know say that they loved the band when they had ten, and became more disinterested over time when eddie vedder became more (to quote one of my friends) "political" with his lyrics.
Most sites like amazon and rateyourmusic.com rate ten as the best pearl jam album http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/pearl_jam (Check out the number of ratings for ten compared to their other cds.) and it drops off tremendously from there. This album saved many peoples lives It def saved my life when I first heard it, much like siamese dream and dark side of the moon did for me.
Other than this site, very few trash ten, there are more faulty shit on their other cds than ten. Sure production aside, the dopey album cover, it was released in 1991 and it wasnt supposed to be the breakthrough that it was. It was on the billboard 200 charts for 252 fucking weeks....more than vs, vitalogy, yield, and no code combined.
Sorry for this rant but this is just my take. I dont listen to this album that much anymore because I played it to fucking death, but its still one of the greatest albums of all time. Yield isnt, it has flaws and filler, so does no code, and so does Binaural. Ten imo, has very little, and people just pin point them and exaggerate them. However one gripe with ten is that the guitars become overly reverby with the production, and too much echo...but I think thats part of the charm.
I think the band doesnt like the album now because seriously, I would be tired of the praise of the album aswell. Ament said they recorded the album as an excuse to tour...bs. The magic happened when gossard did the songwriting, and eddie vedder wrote lyrics and song over them. Now they write AROUND eddies voice instead of focusing on the melody and structure of the songs.
For most popular things, people just tend to hate over time just because it gets popular and becomes the norm to hate. Like most diehard nirvana fans I know believe that in utero trumps nevermind (Although I have an opposite opinion) Its just most things that are popular tend to get hated on over time.
Ten is landmark record though, there is no denying that, In my opinion it is pearl jams best record, because of the flow. The album flows like one big story from one song to the next, unbelievable for a first album. Sure Vitology and No Code are extremely good in there own right, but other than this forum, and the diehard fans that still attends concerts and buys the bootlegs and b sides, nobody really gives two shits about this band other than ten and vs. Had the band started with vitology as there debut, they would have gotten a different response. Most people I know say that they loved the band when they had ten, and became more disinterested over time when eddie vedder became more (to quote one of my friends) "political" with his lyrics.
Most sites like amazon and rateyourmusic.com rate ten as the best pearl jam album http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/pearl_jam (Check out the number of ratings for ten compared to their other cds.) and it drops off tremendously from there. This album saved many peoples lives It def saved my life when I first heard it, much like siamese dream and dark side of the moon did for me.
Other than this site, very few trash ten, there are more faulty shit on their other cds than ten. Sure production aside, the dopey album cover, it was released in 1991 and it wasnt supposed to be the breakthrough that it was. It was on the billboard 200 charts for 252 fucking weeks....more than vs, vitalogy, yield, and no code combined.
Sorry for this rant but this is just my take. I dont listen to this album that much anymore because I played it to fucking death, but its still one of the greatest albums of all time. Yield isnt, it has flaws and filler, so does no code, and so does Binaural. Ten imo, has very little, and people just pin point them and exaggerate them. However one gripe with ten is that the guitars become overly reverby with the production, and too much echo...but I think thats part of the charm.
I think the band doesnt like the album now because seriously, I would be tired of the praise of the album aswell. Ament said they recorded the album as an excuse to tour...bs. The magic happened when gossard did the songwriting, and eddie vedder wrote lyrics and song over them. Now they write AROUND eddies voice instead of focusing on the melody and structure of the songs.
If you don't mind me asking, how did Ten save your life?
I know good music can inspire us and make us feel better, but you weren't suicidal and the album was that influential that it stopped you?
I find Pearl Jam's music soul cleansing when all else fails.
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
I meant that my thoughts are just mine, add yours and come up with your own thoughts, cause I never think mine are really gospel truth; just my thoughts.
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
For most popular things, people just tend to hate over time just because it gets popular and becomes the norm to hate. Like most diehard nirvana fans I know believe that in utero trumps nevermind (Although I have an opposite opinion) Its just most things that are popular tend to get hated on over time.
Ten is landmark record though, there is no denying that, In my opinion it is pearl jams best record, because of the flow. The album flows like one big story from one song to the next, unbelievable for a first album. Sure Vitology and No Code are extremely good in there own right, but other than this forum, and the diehard fans that still attends concerts and buys the bootlegs and b sides, nobody really gives two shits about this band other than ten and vs. Had the band started with vitology as there debut, they would have gotten a different response. Most people I know say that they loved the band when they had ten, and became more disinterested over time when eddie vedder became more (to quote one of my friends) "political" with his lyrics.
Most sites like amazon and rateyourmusic.com rate ten as the best pearl jam album http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/pearl_jam (Check out the number of ratings for ten compared to their other cds.) and it drops off tremendously from there. This album saved many peoples lives It def saved my life when I first heard it, much like siamese dream and dark side of the moon did for me.
Other than this site, very few trash ten, there are more faulty shit on their other cds than ten. Sure production aside, the dopey album cover, it was released in 1991 and it wasnt supposed to be the breakthrough that it was. It was on the billboard 200 charts for 252 fucking weeks....more than vs, vitalogy, yield, and no code combined.
Sorry for this rant but this is just my take. I dont listen to this album that much anymore because I played it to fucking death, but its still one of the greatest albums of all time. Yield isnt, it has flaws and filler, so does no code, and so does Binaural. Ten imo, has very little, and people just pin point them and exaggerate them. However one gripe with ten is that the guitars become overly reverby with the production, and too much echo...but I think thats part of the charm.
I think the band doesnt like the album now because seriously, I would be tired of the praise of the album aswell. Ament said they recorded the album as an excuse to tour...bs. The magic happened when gossard did the songwriting, and eddie vedder wrote lyrics and song over them. Now they write AROUND eddies voice instead of focusing on the melody and structure of the songs.
I live in Boston on the opposite coast from Seattle and on the radio even today, there are more Ten songs played than any other PJ record. Truly classic.
Yeah, right, I think that is the problem a lot of PJ fans have. It gets all the love and the other albums, not so much. At least not on your standard rock radio stations. It kind of pisses me off when I hear Jeremy for the 1,000 time and think "why couldn't this be Hail, Hail or Light Years?" I don't need mainstream rock radio to validate my love for all things PJ, but I think it's a form of disrespect, I guess. I do agree with some of the earlier comments about it sounding dated, but that doesn't bother me. It's still one of the all time greatest rock albums, IMO.
Other than this site, very few trash ten, there are more faulty shit on their other cds than ten. Sure production aside, the dopey album cover, it was released in 1991 and it wasnt supposed to be the breakthrough that it was. It was on the billboard 200 charts for 252 fucking weeks....more than vs, vitalogy, yield, and no code combined.
Sorry for this rant but this is just my take. I dont listen to this album that much anymore because I played it to fucking death, but its still one of the greatest albums of all time. Yield isnt, it has flaws and filler, so does no code, and so does Binaural. Ten imo, has very little, and people just pin point them and exaggerate them. However one gripe with ten is that the guitars become overly reverby with the production, and too much echo...but I think thats part of the charm.
i don't think no code has any filler. but then, no code did for me what you say ten did for you. saved my life. it is a perfect album in my estimation, and i think time will be very kind to it.
but ten is a classic album and was my intro to the band. that said, i think the production hurts it. i don't enjoy listening to it. song-for-song, it might be their best. every song on there is amazing. in that sense, it is their strongest set of songs. but as an ALBUM, i think it suffers and my reason is the production. i don't find it charming. hearing the remixes on their greatest hits album is a revelation. those songs are among their best, but it's so hard to listen to that album because it sounds awful to me. so overblown. i can really only handle 'why go' anymore.
I think the band doesnt like the album now because seriously, I would be tired of the praise of the album aswell. Ament said they recorded the album as an excuse to tour...bs. The magic happened when gossard did the songwriting, and eddie vedder wrote lyrics and song over them. Now they write AROUND eddies voice instead of focusing on the melody and structure of the songs.
you're spot on here. stone has always been their strongest songwriter. his riffs are awesome (though jeff of course threw in a few great ones for good measure, like jermy and why go). the band was at their best when stone and jeff came up with great tunes and ed managed to match stunning lyrics to them. it does feel forced sometimes now... either ed trying to bring emotion to someone else's words or the rest of the band going through the motions on ed songs that really don't need more than one guitarist and a drummer. the band sounds thinner than ever before, it doesn't sound like the passionate collective effort of the early days.
*EDIT* i'll add that rateyourmusic does NOT have ten as their best album. far and away the best reviews go to the greatest hits album, with benaroya behind. to most people i know, greatest hits is all they want. pearl jam was bigger than ten, and most people would rather have the highlights of their career than just ten.
i don't think no code has any filler. but then, no code did for me what you say ten did for you. saved my life. it is a perfect album in my estimation, and i think time will be very kind to it.
but ten is a classic album and was my intro to the band. that said, i think the production hurts it. i don't enjoy listening to it. song-for-song, it might be their best. every song on there is amazing. in that sense, it is their strongest set of songs. but as an ALBUM, i think it suffers and my reason is the production. i don't find it charming. hearing the remixes on their greatest hits album is a revelation. those songs are among their best, but it's so hard to listen to that album because it sounds awful to me. so overblown. i can really only handle 'why go' anymore.
you're spot on here. stone has always been their strongest songwriter. his riffs are awesome (though jeff of course threw in a few great ones for good measure, like jermy and why go). the band was at their best when stone and jeff came up with great tunes and ed managed to match stunning lyrics to them. it does feel forced sometimes now... either ed trying to bring emotion to someone else's words or the rest of the band going through the motions on ed songs that really don't need more than one guitarist and a drummer. the band sounds thinner than ever before, it doesn't sound like the passionate collective effort of the early days.
*EDIT* i'll add that rateyourmusic does NOT have ten as their best album. far and away the best reviews go to the greatest hits album, with benaroya behind. to most people i know, greatest hits is all they want. pearl jam was bigger than ten, and most people would rather have the highlights of their career than just ten.
so, the lyrics aren't all Eddie's? I thought he wrote almost all of them.....
no????????
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
so, the lyrics aren't all Eddie's? I thought he wrote almost all of them.....
no????????
stone wrote the lyrics to mandkind. since then, all band members have contributed lyrics of their own. none of the following songs are ed lyrics:
no way
pilate
low light
all those yesterdays
gods' dice
evacuation
nothing as it seems
of the girl
rival
cropduster
ghost
you are
get right
help help
all or none
parachutes
inside job
i think the last album was a step back towards the old days actually. which might be why it was such a step up from where they'd been headed.
stone wrote the lyrics to mandkind. since then, all band members have contributed lyrics of their own. none of the following songs are ed lyrics:
no way
pilate
low light
all those yesterdays
gods' dice
evacuation
nothing as it seems
of the girl
rival
cropduster
ghost
you are
get right
help help
all or none
parachutes
inside job
i think the last album was a step back towards the old days actually. which might be why it was such a step up from where they'd been headed.
Ed wrote the lyrics for Evacuation, Cropduster, and Parachutes, and co-wrote the lyrics for Ghost, You Are, and All or None, but otherwise you are correct.
Can't escape from the common rule...
If you hate something, don't you do it too
stone wrote the lyrics to mandkind. since then, all band members have contributed lyrics of their own. none of the following songs are ed lyrics:
no way
pilate
low light
all those yesterdays
gods' dice
evacuation
nothing as it seems
of the girl
rival
cropduster
ghost
you are
get right
help help
all or none
parachutes
inside job
i think the last album was a step back towards the old days actually. which might be why it was such a step up from where they'd been headed.
wow, so is that why ( would you say???) that like the songs on the one cd that sounded like a lot of old (I don't know), songs, like from anothers decade and so different from their others?
oh, c'mon help me....someone.......what is that cd I am thinking of?
what do you think?
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
maybe it is a thing that you would need to be a bit older to appreciate? I am sure that some people love Ten and are young, but I think you might need to have aged with this band if you are going to think that Ten is a great cd.
just my thoughts..........mix and stir.......and pour????????
I don't know..............
Young one!! If 31 is young, then great!
Glad I got some people's juices flowing on this topic. Also glad I'm not alone in my thinking.
Like I said, Ten's not my favourite Pj album, not sure what that is, but I think Ten gets a hard time.
Loads of people seem to criticise the production. But it think that, whatever the band members say now, that's exactly whet they wanted to sound like at the time.
Listen to Mother Love Bone, Bad Radio!!! Stone & Jeff's love of Aerosmith. Mike's love of Foreigner!!!
Eddie may like to make out these days that he's spme punk rocker, but listen to Bad Radio. It's hardly Black Flag or The Stooges!!
Keep the love of Ten flowing. If only album #9 is somewhere near that level, I for one will be happy!!!
Cymru Am Byth
PJ albums, at the moment!! -
1,Vs 2,Vitalogy 3,No Code 4,Yield 5,Ten 6,Backspacer, 7Pearl Jam 8,Binaural 9,Riot Act.
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ps. i love TEN a loooooooooooooooooooooooooot....
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me rascando pompis...
krap mijn reet...
boku no ketsuoana o kizu...
bahrosh teezy...
Yield has more of a personal connection with me. It was perfect timing for me when it came out.
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Obviously popularity is the enemy, and taking that into account it's easy to see a pattern of behavior; anything to lord over the heads of the lesser informed. Usually these are very intelligent people who are tragically stuck in time and need to find a way to inflate flacid egos. Sad.
Ten is one of the best rock albums in history. The talent hinted at is undeniable and beautifully raw.
Vitalogy is my personal favorite, but I love them all.
Thank you,
K.R. Hash
And I'm Veronica Corningstone, Tits McGee is off tonight...
oh ffs - i love ten - i dont love it to the extent of some other pj albums ... but i love it nontheless
and ive loved it since it was released ... way back in 91 ... so if that doesnt make me a real fan im stuffed if i know what does
vrs rocks
vitology rocks
no code rocks
yeild rok etc etc etc
all great albums for their time, I enjoy all of them
ten was the first and a fantastic record.
ilovesinging-The crazy lady that you catch in detention. Yeah,you can talk to me.
I am me-I would love to keep it that way.
I do get frustrated with Ten's popularity sometimes, especially whenever I finally get to hear PJ in a public space (on the radio or at a pub) it is never EVER anything off their other albums...it just gets old. Doesn't mean I don't still love it.
Because my records and rhymes they don't get made
And if you rap like me you don't get paid
And if you roll like me you don't get laid.
maybe it is a thing that you would need to be a bit older to appreciate? I am sure that some people love Ten and are young, but I think you might need to have aged with this band if you are going to think that Ten is a great cd.
just my thoughts..........mix and stir.......and pour????????
I don't know..............
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
And I'm Veronica Corningstone, Tits McGee is off tonight...
For most popular things, people just tend to hate over time just because it gets popular and becomes the norm to hate. Like most diehard nirvana fans I know believe that in utero trumps nevermind (Although I have an opposite opinion) Its just most things that are popular tend to get hated on over time.
Ten is landmark record though, there is no denying that, In my opinion it is pearl jams best record, because of the flow. The album flows like one big story from one song to the next, unbelievable for a first album. Sure Vitology and No Code are extremely good in there own right, but other than this forum, and the diehard fans that still attends concerts and buys the bootlegs and b sides, nobody really gives two shits about this band other than ten and vs. Had the band started with vitology as there debut, they would have gotten a different response. Most people I know say that they loved the band when they had ten, and became more disinterested over time when eddie vedder became more (to quote one of my friends) "political" with his lyrics.
Most sites like amazon and rateyourmusic.com rate ten as the best pearl jam album http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/pearl_jam (Check out the number of ratings for ten compared to their other cds.) and it drops off tremendously from there. This album saved many peoples lives It def saved my life when I first heard it, much like siamese dream and dark side of the moon did for me.
Other than this site, very few trash ten, there are more faulty shit on their other cds than ten. Sure production aside, the dopey album cover, it was released in 1991 and it wasnt supposed to be the breakthrough that it was. It was on the billboard 200 charts for 252 fucking weeks....more than vs, vitalogy, yield, and no code combined.
Sorry for this rant but this is just my take. I dont listen to this album that much anymore because I played it to fucking death, but its still one of the greatest albums of all time. Yield isnt, it has flaws and filler, so does no code, and so does Binaural. Ten imo, has very little, and people just pin point them and exaggerate them. However one gripe with ten is that the guitars become overly reverby with the production, and too much echo...but I think thats part of the charm.
I think the band doesnt like the album now because seriously, I would be tired of the praise of the album aswell. Ament said they recorded the album as an excuse to tour...bs. The magic happened when gossard did the songwriting, and eddie vedder wrote lyrics and song over them. Now they write AROUND eddies voice instead of focusing on the melody and structure of the songs.
Oh yea and a digital dreamdoor list just to put the icing on the cake
http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_albums90s.html
Ratings asside, you are correct. Great album! Afterall, Ten hooked us all (well the majority of us anyway).
Well said.
If you don't mind me asking, how did Ten save your life?
I know good music can inspire us and make us feel better, but you weren't suicidal and the album was that influential that it stopped you?
I find Pearl Jam's music soul cleansing when all else fails.
I meant that my thoughts are just mine, add yours and come up with your own thoughts, cause I never think mine are really gospel truth; just my thoughts.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
I know what you mean; but you said it so eloquently.........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Yeah, right, I think that is the problem a lot of PJ fans have. It gets all the love and the other albums, not so much. At least not on your standard rock radio stations. It kind of pisses me off when I hear Jeremy for the 1,000 time and think "why couldn't this be Hail, Hail or Light Years?" I don't need mainstream rock radio to validate my love for all things PJ, but I think it's a form of disrespect, I guess. I do agree with some of the earlier comments about it sounding dated, but that doesn't bother me. It's still one of the all time greatest rock albums, IMO.
i don't think no code has any filler. but then, no code did for me what you say ten did for you. saved my life. it is a perfect album in my estimation, and i think time will be very kind to it.
but ten is a classic album and was my intro to the band. that said, i think the production hurts it. i don't enjoy listening to it. song-for-song, it might be their best. every song on there is amazing. in that sense, it is their strongest set of songs. but as an ALBUM, i think it suffers and my reason is the production. i don't find it charming. hearing the remixes on their greatest hits album is a revelation. those songs are among their best, but it's so hard to listen to that album because it sounds awful to me. so overblown. i can really only handle 'why go' anymore.
you're spot on here. stone has always been their strongest songwriter. his riffs are awesome (though jeff of course threw in a few great ones for good measure, like jermy and why go). the band was at their best when stone and jeff came up with great tunes and ed managed to match stunning lyrics to them. it does feel forced sometimes now... either ed trying to bring emotion to someone else's words or the rest of the band going through the motions on ed songs that really don't need more than one guitarist and a drummer. the band sounds thinner than ever before, it doesn't sound like the passionate collective effort of the early days.
*EDIT* i'll add that rateyourmusic does NOT have ten as their best album. far and away the best reviews go to the greatest hits album, with benaroya behind. to most people i know, greatest hits is all they want. pearl jam was bigger than ten, and most people would rather have the highlights of their career than just ten.
so, the lyrics aren't all Eddie's? I thought he wrote almost all of them.....
no????????
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
stone wrote the lyrics to mandkind. since then, all band members have contributed lyrics of their own. none of the following songs are ed lyrics:
no way
pilate
low light
all those yesterdays
gods' dice
evacuation
nothing as it seems
of the girl
rival
cropduster
ghost
you are
get right
help help
all or none
parachutes
inside job
i think the last album was a step back towards the old days actually. which might be why it was such a step up from where they'd been headed.
Ed wrote the lyrics for Evacuation, Cropduster, and Parachutes, and co-wrote the lyrics for Ghost, You Are, and All or None, but otherwise you are correct.
If you hate something, don't you do it too
wow, so is that why ( would you say???) that like the songs on the one cd that sounded like a lot of old (I don't know), songs, like from anothers decade and so different from their others?
oh, c'mon help me....someone.......what is that cd I am thinking of?
what do you think?
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Young one!! If 31 is young, then great!
Glad I got some people's juices flowing on this topic. Also glad I'm not alone in my thinking.
Like I said, Ten's not my favourite Pj album, not sure what that is, but I think Ten gets a hard time.
Loads of people seem to criticise the production. But it think that, whatever the band members say now, that's exactly whet they wanted to sound like at the time.
Listen to Mother Love Bone, Bad Radio!!! Stone & Jeff's love of Aerosmith. Mike's love of Foreigner!!!
Eddie may like to make out these days that he's spme punk rocker, but listen to Bad Radio. It's hardly Black Flag or The Stooges!!
Keep the love of Ten flowing. If only album #9 is somewhere near that level, I for one will be happy!!!
PJ albums, at the moment!! -
1,Vs 2,Vitalogy 3,No Code 4,Yield 5,Ten 6,Backspacer, 7Pearl Jam 8,Binaural 9,Riot Act.