D. appear set to pass Senate bill without voting on it

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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    aerial wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    so those that are opposed

    what are they so afraid of and I need something other then debt, we are in debt right now becuase of almost 10 years of war in Iraq....

    so what is there to fear, I don't get it... really
    No one knows what’s in the bill...Nancy says “we need to pass it so that we can find out what is in the bill” ....WTF?


    No I doubt Nancy read it from front to back and understood much of it

    but many very very smart people through out the country have analyzed it to death over the last year and know it inside and out..... stop watching Fox News or any other news for that matter, do some research and you find the breakdowns of what's in it.

    BTW Nancy and every other Congress member has a staff of smart people who know what is in it and "advice" them on it.
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    KDH12 wrote:
    so those that are opposed

    what are they so afraid of and I need something other then debt, we are in debt right now becuase of almost 10 years of war in Iraq....

    so what is there to fear, I don't get it... really

    Debt is all I got for you, because it's the most critical element and it has a trickle down effect. I totally agree with what a bullshit argument that is, because people's lives are more important than any amount of money. The problem is, if we are a bankrupt country (which we are, we're just too naive to admit it), then how is that going to allow us to receive the best medical treatment possible if we tack on another trillion+ dollar expense? They are saying the bill will cost us $900+ billion, but please name me one government program that came in at or below the projected budget. I'll save you some time, there hasn't been one. The drawn out war in Iraq is a big part of the reason we are in the financial shit situation we are in. That doesn't make it ok to build onto that exponentially. Like I've said before, cut a trillion from the budget and pass the healthcare. At least then we aren't making the situation worse. Does anyone here even run a business? I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

    I'm sure most of you heard that Caterpillar has found the new legislation will cost the company an estimated $100 million. http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-201 ... theadlines

    If that is true, then the company will have to find a way to cut a $100 million from it's budget just to maintain their current balance sheet. Where do you think the $100 million will come from? It won't be from hiring new employees, or providing additional benefits. If they lay people off that is less tax revenue coming in to support our health care system. It's simple economics really.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Shawshank wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    so those that are opposed

    what are they so afraid of and I need something other then debt, we are in debt right now becuase of almost 10 years of war in Iraq....

    so what is there to fear, I don't get it... really

    Debt is all I got for you, because it's the most critical element and it has a trickle down effect. I totally agree with what a bullshit argument that is, because people's lives are more important than any amount of money. The problem is, if we are a bankrupt country (which we are, we're just too naive to admit it), then how is that going to allow us to receive the best medical treatment possible if we tack on another trillion+ dollar expense? They are saying the bill will cost us $900+ billion, but please name me one government program that came in at or below the projected budget. I'll save you some time, there hasn't been one. The drawn out war in Iraq is a big part of the reason we are in the financial shit situation we are in. That doesn't make it ok to build onto that exponentially. Like I've said before, cut a trillion from the budget and pass the healthcare. At least then we aren't making the situation worse. Does anyone here even run a business? I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

    I'm sure most of you heard that Caterpillar has found the new legislation will cost the company an estimated $100 million. http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-201 ... theadlines

    If that is true, then the company will have to find a way to cut a $100 million from it's budget just to maintain their current balance sheet. Where do you think the $100 million will come from? It won't be from hiring new employees, or providing additional benefits. If they lay people off that is less tax revenue coming in to support our health care system. It's simple economics really.


    from your link:
    The heavy-equipment maker's concerns are focused on the potential loss of subsidies to prescription drug costs it covers for retired employees.

    and who is paying caterpillar the subsidies, the government?
    :lol::lol:

    so, in that case it's ok to use taxpayer money to fund prescription costs but only for retired caterpillar employees??
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • StarfallStarfall Posts: 548
    Well, it looks like the issue is moot - the House is going to take three separate votes instead of going the deem and pass route.
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Shawshank wrote:
    KDH12 wrote:
    so those that are opposed

    what are they so afraid of and I need something other then debt, we are in debt right now becuase of almost 10 years of war in Iraq....

    so what is there to fear, I don't get it... really

    Debt is all I got for you, because it's the most critical element and it has a trickle down effect. I totally agree with what a bullshit argument that is, because people's lives are more important than any amount of money. The problem is, if we are a bankrupt country (which we are, we're just too naive to admit it), then how is that going to allow us to receive the best medical treatment possible if we tack on another trillion+ dollar expense? They are saying the bill will cost us $900+ billion, but please name me one government program that came in at or below the projected budget. I'll save you some time, there hasn't been one. The drawn out war in Iraq is a big part of the reason we are in the financial shit situation we are in. That doesn't make it ok to build onto that exponentially. Like I've said before, cut a trillion from the budget and pass the healthcare. At least then we aren't making the situation worse. Does anyone here even run a business? I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

    I'm sure most of you heard that Caterpillar has found the new legislation will cost the company an estimated $100 million. http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-201 ... theadlines

    If that is true, then the company will have to find a way to cut a $100 million from it's budget just to maintain their current balance sheet. Where do you think the $100 million will come from? It won't be from hiring new employees, or providing additional benefits. If they lay people off that is less tax revenue coming in to support our health care system. It's simple economics really.


    from your link:
    The heavy-equipment maker's concerns are focused on the potential loss of subsidies to prescription drug costs it covers for retired employees.

    and who is paying caterpillar the subsidies, the government?
    :lol::lol:

    so, in that case it's ok to use taxpayer money to fund prescription costs but only for retired caterpillar employees??


    i just looked cat up
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=CAT

    where do i think the $100million will come from? maybe the $32.4 BILLION in revenue and $7.47 BILLION in gross profit they made last year

    it's just funny that you are complaining about having to pay for people to have health care but you seem ok with giving a multi billion dollar company money to give their employees health insurance
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Call me kooky but I'm sure I saw them voting yesterday.
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