this is why we can't afford health care

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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    "there's more oversight of the headstart program than the defense budget"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQZmbxhPl2A
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    prfctlefts wrote:
    all of you are forgetting about all the frivolous Lawsuits that go on in this country. That's one of the main reasons Ins is so expensive. We need Tort Reform,but isn't funny how the Democrates want nothing to do with it. Maybe it's because all those slip and fall attorney's are some of the biggest contributors to the Democratic party.
    do you even know what a tort is?? i'm just asking because of all of these shows you righties mention, not one of them goes in depth into what a tort is. there are several types of tort and it is not only in the medical fields where torts are alleged and where torts occur...

    lawsuits are NOT why YOUR health insurance is so expensive. that is why the DOCTORS' LIABILITY INSURANCE IS SO EXPENSIVE!" it does not directly influence your premiums so stop saying that it does. doctors can charge only what medicare allows them to charge for all procedures. medicare sets the groundrules that all health insurance companies play by in regard to costs and what they will pay for things. increasing doctor's premiums for liability insurance is not passed on to the patients, but the docs have to see more patients to make up for the loss of money for liability ins premiums. they can not directly affect your premiums and arbitrarily charge you 3 times the medicare allowable charge to make up for it, so it is not affecting YOUR health insurance premiums. please get your facts straight before you post this crap on here.

    i believe tort reform is bullshit. read my example in the other thread. mistakes are made by doctors all the time, and i think a $250,000 cap on damages for such egregious and dubious errors as amputating the wrong limb, implanting an organ with the wrong blood type, removing the wron kidney, and leaving surgical tools inside a patient that can cause years and years of pain and suffering, lost function, and mental anguish should be awarded what a jury feels as appropriate. not some arbitrary amount that some piece of legislation says.

    no replies to this?? i did not think so....


    I will...

    I agree with you. I always answer about tort reform being needed and all that with this simple statement "how much is your left arm worth to you?" I sure think mine is worth more than 250,000. I wouldn't sell it for 10,000,000
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  • BhagavadGitaBhagavadGita Posts: 1,748
    ajedigecko wrote:
    people who take care of their health and develop a disease or illness, i see no problem helping them.

    people who take toxins and develop a disease or illness, i see no problem helping the people who take care of their health first.

    personnal accountability, i like it, some do not.

    How do you take care of your health if you CANT afford to take care of your health and you have the disease of addiciton.

    Personal accountability? WTF does that mean?

    Try taking care of your health when you have voices in your head and there is no money for meds? Do those peole deserve no help because of personal accountability. Sick is sick. Everyone should be taken care of even if those drunk with money have to front the bill.

    go ahead, I'm waiting....
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    ajedigecko wrote:
    people who take care of their health and develop a disease or illness, i see no problem helping them.

    people who take toxins and develop a disease or illness, i see no problem helping the people who take care of their health first.

    personnal accountability, i like it, some do not.

    How do you take care of your health if you CANT afford to take care of your health and you have the disease of addiciton.

    Personal accountability? WTF does that mean?

    Try taking care of your health when you have voices in your head and there is no money for meds? Do those peole deserve no help because of personal accountability. Sick is sick. Everyone should be taken care of even if those drunk with money have to front the bill.

    go ahead, I'm waiting....
    No kidding. Maybe its a bad choice to smoke, but its also a bad choice to drive fast, eat too much of one thing, not eat enough of another, work carelessly at your job, climb up on that wobbly ladder to clear out your gutters....etc etc... All stupid mistakes people make but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be helped because they made bad choices.

    And besides. What of the loved ones around the smoker who get cancer just from breathing in their smoke? Should we not help them either?
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    haffajappa wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    people who take care of their health and develop a disease or illness, i see no problem helping them.

    people who take toxins and develop a disease or illness, i see no problem helping the people who take care of their health first.

    personnal accountability, i like it, some do not.

    How do you take care of your health if you CANT afford to take care of your health and you have the disease of addiciton.

    Personal accountability? WTF does that mean?

    Try taking care of your health when you have voices in your head and there is no money for meds? Do those peole deserve no help because of personal accountability. Sick is sick. Everyone should be taken care of even if those drunk with money have to front the bill.

    go ahead, I'm waiting....
    No kidding. Maybe its a bad choice to smoke, but its also a bad choice to drive fast, eat too much of one thing, not eat enough of another, work carelessly at your job, climb up on that wobbly ladder to clear out your gutters....etc etc... All stupid mistakes people make but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be helped because they made bad choices.

    And besides. What of the loved ones around the smoker who get cancer just from breathing in their smoke? Should we not help them either?


    didn't a tobacco executive say about babies and second hand smoking "eventually they learn how to crawl." ?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    "Pepe wrote:
    didn't a tobacco executive say about babies and second hand smoking "eventually they learn how to crawl." ?
    :?:
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
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