PJ song for Hannity????!!!

Solat13

At my old office, I used to eat lunch with a few people and each week we'd take turns driving. Well one of my friends used to listen to Rush Limbaugh all the time and we would all be bsing in the car so it didn't really matter what he had on, but for the week after self-titled came out Rush would come out from commercial to Worldwide Suicide. I'm not even kidding. Just thought it was a very odd choice of music for him.

LennonMcCartneyFanatic

Jamily420 wrote:

i was stuck listening to the Sean Hannity show on 77 ABC here in NY. coming back from commercials i heard the intro to Alive. Did anyone else notice this? Does the band know that the station used Alive? something tells me that PJ wouldnt be too happy with that
Jamily420

Haha, this would be like hearing Toby Keith playing during Olberman

SOLAT319

dwjmu84 wrote:

sounds like my cup of tea! hannity and pearl jam. there are probably many more of us than people know...those who eat, sleep, and breathe pearl jam but COMPLETELY disagree with them about almost everything political.

just glad i live in a country where I can have both my views and my pearl jam!

What I wanna know is, how did you hold yourself back from posting for 10 years?

And one other question just out of curiousity. Not trying to start shit or anything: Did you even buy Riot Act? Coz considering what you said above, I don't see the reason why you should have bothered paying money for that album.

RIOT ACT FUCKING ROCKS by the way

LennonMcCartneyFanatic

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

if you like hannity, and like pearl jam too, you clearly have virtually zero intelligence and even less integrity. they are so polar opposite on the scale of right and wrong, good and evil, that there's no way you can understand what both are saying, and still like both. and if you agree with 10% or more of what hannity says, i truly feel sorry for you. it's your right to do so, no doubt. but i'm extremely sad for you and your parents, and i pray that you don't produce offspring. seriously.

Hannity and FOX news are no doubt pure nonsense. But the OP can listen to PJ while still liking Hannity. Since when are 'Black', 'Release', 'Nothinman', 'Just Breathe', 'Yellow Ledbetter', etc. political songs? The OP doesnt have to like 'Glorified G', 'Green Disease' and 'Even Flow' to like PJ.

As for Hannity himself and his evil FOX news propoganda mongers, I am shocked at the bias they dispense on a daily basis. They seem to prey on the uneducated by giving them hearsay as facts and they are dead focused on promoting the views of Christianity. Last I checked the USA does not have a national religion and FOX should be ashamed for promoting one religion over all the rest, as this country is full of different ethnic groups/religious factions. For once, I'd like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and the Jewish faith to get equal representation on this bias channel. The only time this channel mentions Islam is when they speak of terrorism and I can't even remember the last time I saw any pro Hindu or Jewish programming either.

Smellyman

dwjmu84 wrote:

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

regardless of where you stand politically how can anyone watch hannity or beck? Or olberman or maddow for that matter... all these pundits are high school speech team dorks on serious power trips

get your news from someone with some shred of dignity and objectivity... for the love of god

even if the media outside of fox is dangerously "liberal" :roll:

i never, ever said i get my news from hannity. i did say that i try and keep and open mind about things. i watch hannity mostly for entertainment purposes.....as a more liberal individual would prob watch maddow/olberman for the same reason. fox/msnb/cnn all have their flaws, so i generally get my news from my own investigation (a la real clear politics, which lists articles from the left, right, and the middle).

and yes, you cannot deny that the media tends to make it easier on liberals/democrats. anyway, regardless of what i believe, backspacer_backer's post just illustrates his ignorance. he's essentially made himself a non-factor in this discussion.

Therein lies the problem. Watching "news" for entertainmetn.

MG79478

dwjmu84 wrote:

sounds like my cup of tea! hannity and pearl jam. there are probably many more of us than people know...those who eat, sleep, and breathe pearl jam but COMPLETELY disagree with them about almost everything political.

just glad i live in a country where I can have both my views and my pearl jam!

Please believe exactly what your favorite band thinks. Everyone knows that no one is more qualified to understand politics than rich musicians.

Smellyman wrote:

Therein lies the problem. Watching "news" for entertainmetn.

That brings up a valid point. Way too many little lefties get their "news" from John Stewart, who may be the most politically biased person on TV. That is a scary thought.

Always reminds me of the story when Bush sent in aircraft carriers to the tsunami, and Stewart jokes that "the tusnami wasn't enough, now Bush wants to bomb them!". The story ended there. He forgot to mention that the nuclear reactors on the ships could send power to shore, and the ships had extensive hospitals.

Paul Andrews

MG79478 wrote:

Smellyman wrote:

Therein lies the problem. Watching "news" for entertainmetn.

That brings up a valid point. Way too many little lefties get their "news" from John Stewart, who may be the most politically biased person on TV. That is a scary thought.

Always reminds me of the story when Bush sent in aircraft carriers to the tsunami, and Stewart jokes that "the tusnami wasn't enough, now Bush wants to bomb them!". The story ended there. He forgot to mention that the nuclear reactors on the ships could send power to shore, and the ships had extensive hospitals.

There is a vast difference here. Jon Stewart never claims to be 'fair and balanced' nor does he claim to be a 'News Program' he is comedy and social comment and makes no secret of his left wing bias - however, even nutters like Bill O'Reilly credit him as being a fair mainstream leftist, not an extremist from the far left. However, I find him to be quite logical, respectful and fair in his analysis, interviews and his comedy. The aircraft carrier joke is not a good example to use as this was obviously a joke - not news analysis.

What is of concern is that someone would watch The Daily Show for 'news' and Jon Stewart also makes this point. However, Fox claims to be fair an balanced news when nothing could be further from the truth. The fact people watch Fox News for news is the most concerning.

dwjmu84

SOLAT319 wrote:

dwjmu84 wrote:

sounds like my cup of tea! hannity and pearl jam. there are probably many more of us than people know...those who eat, sleep, and breathe pearl jam but COMPLETELY disagree with them about almost everything political.

just glad i live in a country where I can have both my views and my pearl jam!

What I wanna know is, how did you hold yourself back from posting for 10 years?

And one other question just out of curiousity. Not trying to start shit or anything: Did you even buy Riot Act? Coz considering what you said above, I don't see the reason why you should have bothered paying money for that album.

RIOT ACT FUCKING ROCKS by the way

hahaha. well i used to post on the synergy board all the time back in the day under "cropduster". yes, i was the original cropduster! i don't know, i guess one of the reasons is....well, i was always lambasted for my political views and i thought, "why can't people just accept that others have different ideas and opinions and deal with that instead of asking me 'how the hell can you believe that?'".

kind of drove me away for a while. i see not much has changed. look, im not going to get into a diatribe as to why i listen to/watch certain news outlets. i don't have to justify what i do to anybody frankly. as for your question about riot act; im 26 years old...i fell in love with pearl jam at the age of 11 by hearing even flow. you must understand that my affection for them has to do ENTIRELY with the MUSIC. i could care less about what they believe politically. i've put up with ed's rants at numerous shows and on boots and in the news all these years b/c i have to remind myself that im in it for the music. not even that, but as somebody mentioned earlier, a good chunk of their songs are not politically driven. i hope people can understand this.


NOW WHO'S READY FOR SOME TOUR NEWS?

dwjmu84

Paul Andrews wrote:

MG79478 wrote:

Smellyman wrote:

Therein lies the problem. Watching "news" for entertainmetn.

That brings up a valid point. Way too many little lefties get their "news" from John Stewart, who may be the most politically biased person on TV. That is a scary thought.

Always reminds me of the story when Bush sent in aircraft carriers to the tsunami, and Stewart jokes that "the tusnami wasn't enough, now Bush wants to bomb them!". The story ended there. He forgot to mention that the nuclear reactors on the ships could send power to shore, and the ships had extensive hospitals.

There is a vast difference here. Jon Stewart never claims to be 'fair and balanced' nor does he claim to be a 'News Program' he is comedy and social comment and makes no secret of his left wing bias. However, I find him to be quite logical, respectful and fair in his analysis, interviews and his comedy. The aircraft carrier joke is not a good example to use as this was obviously a joke - not news analysis.

What is of concern is that someone would watch The Daily Show for 'news' and Jon Stewart also makes this point. However, Fox claims to be fair an balanced news when nothing could be further from the truth. The fact people watch Fox News for news is the most concerning.

How do you feel about the fact that more people watch Fox than any other cable news outlet? We must all be crazy here in America right? hmm come to think of it, we (collectively) also voted for Obama. how do you feel about that contradiction. You can't have it both ways brother.

Gary Carter

dwjmu84 wrote:

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

if you like hannity, and like pearl jam too, you clearly have virtually zero intelligence and even less integrity. they are so polar opposite on the scale of right and wrong, good and evil, that there's no way you can understand what both are saying, and still like both. and if you agree with 10% or more of what hannity says, i truly feel sorry for you. it's your right to do so, no doubt. but i'm extremely sad for you and your parents, and i pray that you don't produce offspring. seriously.

no need to feel sorry for me man. i have a wonderful life, and, in spite of my "zero intelligence" i've got an amazing job working for one of our government "agencies". i see and know more than you ever will about the world, and i manage to keep an open mind about things, regardless of my opinions, thoughts, and political views. you, on the other hand, are actually what pearl jam probably do not want as part of their fanbase. i seem to remember ed saying something during vh1 storytellers about being ok with the fact that some of their fans have different views, but imploring that everybody do what they can to heighten the dialogue so to speak and bring about positive change. i believe i am doing just that each and every day in my life, or at least i try to!

btw...if you truly believe that your politics must fall in line with their's to still enjoy the aesthetic orgasm that is pearl jam's MUSIC......well my friend you have A LOT to learn about life. nothing but the best to ya!

:claps: :claps:

good for you

Paul Andrews

dwjmu84 wrote:

How do you feel about the fact that more people watch Fox than any other cable news outlet? We must all be crazy here in America right? hmm come to think of it, we (collectively) also voted for Obama. how do you feel about that contradiction. You can't have it both ways brother.

The fact Fox is the 'most trusted name in cable news' and the highest rating scares the shit out of me. Rupert Murdoch will do whatever he needs to make money. If there was more money in spruking far left ideology, he'd be doing it. The fact he has found a formula and team that has tapped in to a neglected demogrograph. He has dummed down the content, raised the 'sexiness' of the product, employed graphic artists, animators and music producers to make Fox News more like MTV and taken shock-jock talk radio to TV and it is working its butt off. Pure genius until you think of the damage this is doing to the political landscape and the damage this is doing to America by polarising thought or discrediting it altogether.

As a fairly frequent visitor to USA I can see the vast difference between the America I see and the one promoted by FOX. Their vision of the 'real America' is a scary and backward one indeed.

HermanBloom

Long Gone Yesterdays wrote:

EvoLukin wrote:

dwjmu84 wrote:

sounds like my cup of tea! hannity and pearl jam. there are probably many more of us than people know...those who eat, sleep, and breathe pearl jam but COMPLETELY disagree with them about almost everything political.

just glad i live in a country where I can have both my views and my pearl jam!

I approve this message.

add me to the list of approvals.

ditto

dwjmu84

Paul Andrews wrote:

dwjmu84 wrote:

How do you feel about the fact that more people watch Fox than any other cable news outlet? We must all be crazy here in America right? hmm come to think of it, we (collectively) also voted for Obama. how do you feel about that contradiction. You can't have it both ways brother.

The fact Fox is the 'most trusted name in cable news' and the highest rating scares the shit out of me. Rupert Murdoch will do whatever he needs to make money. If there was more money in spruking far left ideology, he'd be doing it. The fact he has found a formula and team that has tapped in to a neglected demogrograph. He has dummed down the content, raised the 'sexiness' of the product, employed graphic artists, animators and music producers to make Fox News more like MTV and taken shock-jock talk radio to TV and it is working its butt off. Pure genius until you think of the damage this is doing to the political landscape and the damage this is doing to America by polarising thought or discrediting it altogether.

As a fairly frequent visitor to USA I can see the vast difference between the America I see and the one promoted by FOX. Their vision of the 'real America' is a scary and backward one indeed.

I just have to disagree with you. I live in DC, one of the most traditionally liberal areas of the country and I know people of ALL backgrounds, races, ethnicities etc who tell me they turn to Fox News. Remember, i work for the gov't so it's not simply a bunch of rich, white men that i interact with all day. People are fed up and reallllly sick of how the Obama admin and congress is handling this country. I have had NUMEROUS obama voters come to me (b/c they know im conservative) and say, "i wish i could take back my vote". you're obviously entitled to you opinion, but you're not a citizen and visintg the US often is nothing like living here and living WITH the actions of our gov't. btw, i was also critical of many things bush did while in office, so im not just toting the party line.

josevolution

Please Mods move this thread over to Moving Train i'm sick of seeing the name Hannity on the Porch :? .....

dwjmu84

josevolution wrote:

Please Mods move this thread over to Moving Train i'm sick of seeing the name Hannity on the Porch :? .....

exaclty why i don't even set foot inside a moving train, but since somebody brought it up here, i thought i'd respond.

MG79478

Paul Andrews wrote:

There is a vast difference here. Jon Stewart never claims to be 'fair and balanced' nor does he claim to be a 'News Program' he is comedy and social comment and makes no secret of his left wing bias - however, even nutters like Bill O'Reilly credit him as being a fair mainstream leftist, not an extremist from the far left. However, I find him to be quite logical, respectful and fair in his analysis, interviews and his comedy. The aircraft carrier joke is not a good example to use as this was obviously a joke - not news analysis.

What is of concern is that someone would watch The Daily Show for 'news' and Jon Stewart also makes this point. However, Fox claims to be fair an balanced news when nothing could be further from the truth. The fact people watch Fox News for news is the most concerning.

I thought the aircraft carrier joke was funny, because I understood it was a joke. The guy is funny, but his interviews are painful, he constantly cuts off anyone with an opposing view point, cracks a joke, and the audience goes wild. But you would be surprised at how many people don't understand that it is not real. You would be surprised at how many people believe everything they hear on TV. But really you shouldn't... look at our last presidential election.

Just because fox news doesn't promote your point of view, doesn't mean they are not fair and balanced. Maybe your point of view is unbalanced? Maybe since Fox news is the only right leaning news source out there, they are by definition the balance? Ever think of that?

Paul Andrews wrote:

Rupert Murdoch will do whatever he needs to make money.

Just like the political left will do whatever it needs for more power. Whether it's destroying an economy (global warming) or the healthcare system. Then they fly around in their private jets and aren't covered by the same healthcare they think is so great for us.

Paul Andrews

dwjmu84 wrote:

I just have to disagree with you. I live in DC, one of the most traditionally liberal areas of the country and I know people of ALL backgrounds, races, ethnicities etc who tell me they turn to Fox News. Remember, i work for the gov't so it's not simply a bunch of rich, white men that i interact with all day. People are fed up and reallllly sick of how the Obama admin and congress is handling this country. I have had NUMEROUS obama voters come to me (b/c they know im conservative) and say, "i wish i could take back my vote". you're obviously entitled to you opinion, but you're not a citizen and visintg the US often is nothing like living here and living WITH the actions of our gov't. btw, i was also critical of many things bush did while in office, so im not just toting the party line.

I don't doubt your free thinking and admit, not being a citizen does make me an interested outsider. I also can't really make judgement on Obama or his progress thus far. I'm still trying to get my head around the fact you guys don't want government healthcare. But from the outside looking in (and with a degree in media) i find fox news pure propaganda from a very ultra right wing and conservative point of view. The very construction of the narrative and positioning of the view on Fox is so blatant I's amazed people buy it. FOX - the WWE of News.

josevolution

dwjmu84 wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Please Mods move this thread over to Moving Train i'm sick of seeing the name Hannity on the Porch :? .....

exaclty why i don't even set foot inside a moving train, but since somebody brought it up here, i thought i'd respond.

Then I'm placing the blame on you ,But really Kat or Sea move this trashy thread out of here it has giving me a bad taste ....

MG79478

Paul Andrews wrote:

I'm still trying to get my head around the fact you guys don't want government healthcare.

Why would we want government healthcare? The government can't run anything correctly. Medicare is government health care, and it has the highest claim rejection rate by far when compared with those "evil" insurance companies. What country has a higher standard of care than the United States?

Paul Andrews

MG79478 wrote:

Paul Andrews wrote:

I'm still trying to get my head around the fact you guys don't want government healthcare.

Why would we want government healthcare? The government can't run anything correctly. Medicare is government health care, and it has the highest claim rejection rate by far when compared with those "evil" insurance companies. What country has a higher standard of care than the United States?

Man, almost every Western country has a better standard of healthcare system than the USA. We have social and private health insurance in Australia - no-one goes without. Englands NHS is better than the USA system. I'm fairly sure Mexico has a better system. The fault doesn't lie with socialised medicine, the fault lies with corrupt governments, greedy heath providers and insurance companies. Socialised heathcare can and does work fine in many countries, all with a higher standard of heathcare than USA.