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The Cove wins an Oscar !!!!

Yield151Yield151 Posts: 267
edited March 2010 in A Moving Train
Ed talked about this documentary at one of the LA shows I was at last fall (forgive me they all sort of blurred into one amazing trip). Anyway after he dedicated Amongst the Waves to the dolphins that night, I decided to watch this documentary. It was eye opening and very well done..... definately deserved the Oscar ..... if you havent seen this.... you should
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    yeah ... it's been talked about on here ... i think there is a thread about it ...

    i've swam with dusky dolphins in their environment off the coast of the south island in New Zealand and i don't doubt that flipper committed suicide ... these animals are not only intelligent but they have a passion for life ...
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    i want to see this, but i don't have it in me to watch animals suffering or being killed. i was watching 60 minutes last night and they were profiling the spanish bullfighters who are brothers. it showed them killing bulls and i had to turn it off.. i was rooting for the bulls by the way...
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    haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    i want to see this, but i don't have it in me to watch animals suffering or being killed. i was watching 60 minutes last night and they were profiling the spanish bullfighters who are brothers. it showed them killing bulls and i had to turn it off.. i was rooting for the bulls by the way...
    i like when the bulls get them up the ass.
    its a dangerous sport anyways and its cruel, i don't mind when bullfighters die.
    i know that sounds cold but...
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i want to see this, but i don't have it in me to watch animals suffering or being killed. i was watching 60 minutes last night and they were profiling the spanish bullfighters who are brothers. it showed them killing bulls and i had to turn it off.. i was rooting for the bulls by the way...

    it's fairly brutal to watch ... i won't lie
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    haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    polaris_x wrote:
    i want to see this, but i don't have it in me to watch animals suffering or being killed. i was watching 60 minutes last night and they were profiling the spanish bullfighters who are brothers. it showed them killing bulls and i had to turn it off.. i was rooting for the bulls by the way...

    it's fairly brutal to watch ... i won't lie
    i cried
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    brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    polaris_x wrote:
    i want to see this, but i don't have it in me to watch animals suffering or being killed. i was watching 60 minutes last night and they were profiling the spanish bullfighters who are brothers. it showed them killing bulls and i had to turn it off.. i was rooting for the bulls by the way...

    it's fairly brutal to watch ... i won't lie
    Ya, it's awful. But it's a must see. I remember feeling totally repulsed with humanity at the end of this film :cry:
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    brandon10 wrote:
    Ya, it's awful. But it's a must see. I remember feeling totally repulsed with humanity at the end of this film :cry:

    i agree - just wanted to give gimme the heads up!
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    not sure if i want to see dolphins suffer but this is what showed up below it when i looked it up on netflix
    :lol:


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    Bay Cove
    A young newlywed couple (Pamela Sue Martin and Tim Matheson) moves into a remote village on an island off the coast of Massachusetts, only to find a secret coven of witches that demand they join their circle … or suffer the grisly consequences. This psychologically taut thriller co-stars Woody Harrelson, Barbara Billingsley and Jeff Conaway.

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    Frankenstein vs. the Creature from Blood Cove
    William Winckler (director of cult hit The Double-D Avenger) pays homage to the era of 1940s horror films with his retro, black-and-white creature feature. Mad scientists resurrect Frankenstein's monster and also spawn a half-man, half-amphibian beast to battle terrorism. Of course, things go wrong, and the creatures start terrorizing unsuspecting humans, including scantily clad models on the beach.

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    Dante's Cove Season 1
    A beach town's young denizens become enmeshed in a world of mystery and shifting romances after an insidious secret from the past emerges in this gothic gay soap opera. When Kevin Archer (Gregory Michael) opens a trap door in the Hotel Dante, he gets the surprise of his life -- and unwittingly unleashes evil forces on the community. Charlie David and Tracy Scoggins also star in this trailblazing series, which blends erotica, horror and melodrama.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

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    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    Jeezus everybody. They are dolphins! They grow back!
    So this life is sacrifice...
    6/30/98 Minneapolis, 10/8/00 East Troy (Brrrr!), 6/16/03 St. Paul, 6/27/06 St. Paul
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    yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    i want to see this, but i don't have it in me to watch animals suffering or being killed. i was watching 60 minutes last night and they were profiling the spanish bullfighters who are brothers. it showed them killing bulls and i had to turn it off.. i was rooting for the bulls by the way...



    I watched that also, lets not forget they cut the ears off for the bull fighter after he stabbed it in the head. I also had to change the channel and I did not feel bad for the brothers at all. I could care less that his brother was rushed to the hospital, I say score one for the bull.

    I will watch the cove but I have to talk myself into first.
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    there's a squirrel in my neighborhood that someone cut off its tail and ears...it has some of the ear but they both are clipped in a perfect line across.... :(
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    Jeezus everybody. They are dolphins! They grow back!

    :roll:

    try telling that to any of the endangered species on this list....

    http://www.earthsendangered.com/list.asp
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    brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Jeezus everybody. They are dolphins! They grow back!

    Were humans, we grow back. Shall I kill you??? Have you seen the film? You realize there is no point to killing these animals? Right? Nice asshole comment :evil:
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    brandon10 wrote:
    Jeezus everybody. They are dolphins! They grow back!

    Were humans, we grow back. Shall I kill you??? Have you seen the film? You realize there is no point to killing these animals? Right? Nice asshole comment :evil:

    If you equate the killing of human beings with the killing of dolphins there really is no helping you.

    Besides, thousands of salmon are murdered everyday and no one gives a poo about them (only cute animals win the Oscars).
    So this life is sacrifice...
    6/30/98 Minneapolis, 10/8/00 East Troy (Brrrr!), 6/16/03 St. Paul, 6/27/06 St. Paul
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    brandon10 wrote:
    Jeezus everybody. They are dolphins! They grow back!

    Were humans, we grow back. Shall I kill you??? Have you seen the film? You realize there is no point to killing these animals? Right? Nice asshole comment :evil:

    If you equate the killing of human beings with the killing of dolphins there really is no helping you.

    Besides, thousands of salmon are murdered everyday and no one gives a poo about them (only cute animals win the Oscars).
    its not about the oscars, its about the senseless killing of the animals. your point about them growing back was ridiculous and as usual was an attempt to derail the thread. no response to the list i provided?
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    brandon10 wrote:
    Jeezus everybody. They are dolphins! They grow back!

    Were humans, we grow back. Shall I kill you??? Have you seen the film? You realize there is no point to killing these animals? Right? Nice asshole comment :evil:

    If you equate the killing of human beings with the killing of dolphins there really is no helping you.

    Besides, thousands of salmon are murdered everyday and no one gives a poo about them (only cute animals win the Oscars).


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/s ... 973994.ece
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    brandon10 wrote:
    Jeezus everybody. They are dolphins! They grow back!

    Were humans, we grow back. Shall I kill you??? Have you seen the film? You realize there is no point to killing these animals? Right? Nice asshole comment :evil:

    If you equate the killing of human beings with the killing of dolphins there really is no helping you.

    Besides, thousands of salmon are murdered everyday and no one gives a poo about them (only cute animals win the Oscars).
    Humans should use animals however they like by whatever means they like because the bible says so.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    haffajappa wrote:
    Humans should use animals however they like by whatever means they like because the bible says so.
    i can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic here....where in the bible does it say it is ok to slaughter thousands of animals for no apparent reason? don't give me any "humans have dominion over the earth" crap because that can me interpreted many different ways. i am asking for a specific quote here...
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    haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    haffajappa wrote:
    Humans should use animals however they like by whatever means they like because the bible says so.
    i can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic here....where in the bible does it say it is ok to slaughter thousands of animals for no apparent reason? don't give me any "humans have dominion over the earth" crap because that can me interpreted many different ways. i am asking for a specific quote here...
    sorry i should have put a rolly eye.
    i'm on your side :)

    i did a debate once in the tenth grade about animal experimentation for cosmetic purposes and that was the grand rebuttle of the other team... God made animals for humans to use, says so and so in the bible. :roll:
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    brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    brandon10 wrote:
    Jeezus everybody. They are dolphins! They grow back!

    Were humans, we grow back. Shall I kill you??? Have you seen the film? You realize there is no point to killing these animals? Right? Nice asshole comment :evil:

    If you equate the killing of human beings with the killing of dolphins there really is no helping you.

    Besides, thousands of salmon are murdered everyday and no one gives a poo about them (only cute animals win the Oscars).


    Tell me something. Are you the fool that would debate a book in English class without having read it??

    Watch the fucking movie before you comment in a thread about it otherwise you look like a complete idiot. Like your post equating them to salmon. That's one of the main points in the movie, we don't eat dolphin. These are senseless killings of a VERY intelligent animal.

    Watch the movie. You may actually learn something.
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    haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    brandon10 wrote:

    Tell me something. Are you the fool that would debate a book in English class without having read it??

    Watch the fucking movie before you comment in a thread about it otherwise you look like a complete idiot. Like your post equating them to salmon. That's one of the main points in the movie, we don't eat dolphin. These are senseless killings of a VERY intelligent animal.

    Watch the movie. You may actually learn something.
    not only that, but they are canning it and passing it as other types of meat. The Japanese people don't even know about it...
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    brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    haffajappa wrote:
    brandon10 wrote:

    Tell me something. Are you the fool that would debate a book in English class without having read it??

    Watch the fucking movie before you comment in a thread about it otherwise you look like a complete idiot. Like your post equating them to salmon. That's one of the main points in the movie, we don't eat dolphin. These are senseless killings of a VERY intelligent animal.

    Watch the movie. You may actually learn something.
    not only that, but they are canning it and passing it as other types of meat. The Japanese people don't even know about it...


    I know.....and there was so much more in the film than just the slaughter of dolphins. Mercury levels in the large fish were scary. And some of the stuff in the film that showed how intelligent dolpins are. I also liked how they showed the corruption throughout those lower levels of Japanese government and that oceanic organization. Very good film.
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    wow ... someone equated the slaughter in taiji to salmon!?? ... what's there to say really?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    Mar 11, 6:39 AM EST


    Sushi chef charged with serving illegal whale

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... TE=DEFAULT

    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Federal prosecutors filed charges Wednesday against a sushi chef and a Santa Monica restaurant on allegations that they served illegal and endangered whale meat.

    Typhoon Restaurant Inc., which owns The Hump restaurant, and sushi chef Kiyoshiro Yamamoto, 45, were charged with illegally selling an endangered species product, a misdemeanor.

    According to a search warrant, marine mammal activists were served whale during three separate visits to the restaurant. Federal labs confirmed the meat came from a Sei whale, an endangered species protected by international treaties, documents said.

    Agents also seized some suspected whale meat during a search of the restaurant Friday but are awaiting test results to confirm it was Sei whale, U.S. attorney spokesman Thom Mrozak said.

    In October, two activists posing as customers went to The Hump and ordered "omakase," which means they let the chef choose the choicest fresh fish. They also requested whale and pocketed a sample.

    The young women worked with Louie Psihoyos, director of the Oscar-winning documentary "The Cove," to record the meal with a hidden camera and microphone.

    "These are endangered animals being cut up for dinner," Psihoyos said. "It's an abuse of science."

    Psihoyos took their findings to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which started an investigation.

    Activists claim the whale meat came from Japan's scientific whaling program and was illegally exported, but the U.S. attorney's office is still investigating the source of the meat.

    Japan kills hundreds of whales in Antarctic waters each year under its research whaling program, which has triggered violent protests by conservationists and caused strong objections by diplomats in recent years.

    An attorney for Typhoon, Gary Lincenberg, said the restaurant accepts responsibility for serving whale and will agree to pay a fine. If convicted, the company could be fined up to $200,000.

    Court records say agents interviewed Yamamoto, a Culver City resident and a chef at The Hump for the past seven years, and he admitted serving whale to two young women.

    Yamamoto's attorney, Mark Byrne, declined to comment on the charges, saying he hadn't had time to review them. If convicted, Yamamoto could face a year in prison and a fine of up to $100,000.

    During the October restaurant visit, animal rights activist Crystal Galbraith, 27, and a friend who spoke fluent Japanese racked up a bill of $600, feasting on increasingly exotic dishes to gain the confidence of the waiters and chef.

    "It was heartbreaking to eat an endangered animal, but I knew that I was doing it to save" the whales, said Galbraith, a vegan. "We were there eating for four hours. I felt so full and sick."

    The waitress brought out a dish of whale sushi, identifying the whale in English and Japanese, court documents said. The dish was listed as whale on the check and cost $85.

    The team sent samples to Scott Baker, a professor and cetacean specialist at Oregon State University's Marine Mammal Institute, for genetic testing. The results showed the meat was from a Sei whale, court records said.

    The Sei whale is a baleen whale found throughout the world's oceans, and known for its graceful and quick swimming and its long, low vocalizations, Baker said. Fully grown, the mammal is longer than a bus.

    Eating Sei whale meat is common in Japan, Korea and Norway and among native peoples in Alaska and Canada, but it is illegal to export the meat because of the Sei whale's endangered status.

    In late February, when Psihoyos and the rest of his team were in Los Angeles for the Academy Awards, Galbraith and another friend returned to The Hump twice more.

    This time, agents from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration sat at the bar and watched Yamamoto at work, court records said. During the third visit, another agent watched the chef go to his car and retrieve a package wrapped in clear plastic.
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    ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    This movie was amazing. I believe it earned it's Oscar, and then some. I'm not in favor of the senseless killing of anything, whether I find them cute or not. What is shown in this film is the absolute butchery of a species at a level I had never seen before. I find it ironic that now the real money with Dolphins is in selling them to places like Sea World. So the one city that slaughtered all of their Dolphin now have to import them in order to have anything to sell.
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    So it's OK to kill something as long as you eat it? And what does "intelligence" have to do with anything? The smarter something is the less reason we have to murder it? Environmentalists have such a weird moral framework.
    So this life is sacrifice...
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    brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    So it's OK to kill something as long as you eat it? And what does "intelligence" have to do with anything? The smarter something is the less reason we have to murder it? Environmentalists have such a weird moral framework.


    You should really watch the movie. I'm not even mad at your lack of understanding in these posts. I'm just embarrassed for you. :oops:

    What would happen if you were to round up thousands of german shepards and slaughter them with swords? How do you think the public would feel about you? Not environmentalists, the general public?
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    haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    brandon10 wrote:
    So it's OK to kill something as long as you eat it? And what does "intelligence" have to do with anything? The smarter something is the less reason we have to murder it? Environmentalists have such a weird moral framework.


    You should really watch the movie. I'm not even mad at your lack of understanding in these posts. I'm just embarrassed for you. :oops:

    What would happen if you were to round up thousands of german shepards and slaughter them with swords? How do you think the public would feel about you? Not environmentalists, the general public?
    and then wrapped them up and sold it as pork to the general public
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    Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    kinda off topic but has anyone seen the movie the year of the dog?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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    brandon10 wrote:
    So it's OK to kill something as long as you eat it? And what does "intelligence" have to do with anything? The smarter something is the less reason we have to murder it? Environmentalists have such a weird moral framework.


    You should really watch the movie. I'm not even mad at your lack of understanding in these posts. I'm just embarrassed for you. :oops:

    What would happen if you were to round up thousands of german shepards and slaughter them with swords? How do you think the public would feel about you? Not environmentalists, the general public?

    I would never condone such a thing but you have to admit rounding up thousands of german shepherds and hacking them with swords sounds kind of badass. Like maybe they are Nazi German shepherds ala Wolfenstein? Would that make it OK?

    It would make a pretty kick ass 80's metal album cover too!
    So this life is sacrifice...
    6/30/98 Minneapolis, 10/8/00 East Troy (Brrrr!), 6/16/03 St. Paul, 6/27/06 St. Paul
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