Greece told to sell off islands and artworks!

demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,547
edited March 2010 in A Moving Train
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ma ... ds-auction

The call for a Big Fat Greek Auction came on the eve of crucial talks between Angela Merkel and the George Papandreou.

Josef Schlarmann told Bild newspaper that Greece should consider selling its uninhabited islands for debt redemption.

Two senior German MPs have demanded that Greece sell off some of its islands, historic buildings and art works as a condition of receiving a financial lifeline from the EU.

The call for a Big Fat Greek Auction – which would also include ancient artefacts and stakes in state-owned companies – to repay some of the country's debt mountain came on the eve of crucial talks between the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, and the Greek prime minister, George Papandreou, in Berlin tomorrow and takes the mudslinging between the two countries to a new level.

Frank Schaeffler, an economics specialist and member of Germany's Free Democrats, said Athens should sell stakes in companies and "assets, such as uninhabited islands". Marco Wanderwitz – a member of Merkel's conservative CDU party – went even further: "If the European Union, and therefore Germany, helps out Greece economically, it will need to give something in exchange … some islands, for example, might be a solution.''

The Bild tabloid newspaper put it rather more succinctly: "We give you cash, you give us Corfu … and the Acropolis too".

Dimitris Droutsas, Greece's deputy foreign minister, was not amused. "Suggestions like this are not appropriate at this time," he told German television.

According to a poll published today, 84% of Germans think the EU should refuse to help Athens.

The Greeks are increasingly resentful of Germany's hardline stance. Germany's Nazi past has been dragged up and German car dealers and supermarket chains have been hit by boycotts.

There are some 6,000 Greek islands, scattered across the Aegean and Ionian seas, ranging from Crete, the biggest at more than 3,000 square miles, to tiny rocky islets barely big enough for a single sunbed. Only around 220 are inhabited. Many are already up for sale.

The Private Islands Online website, which specialises in selling island paradises and rocky outcrops across the world, says a little bit of land surrounded by sea in the Cyclades or Dodecanese is the perfect trophy asset: "Greek islands are the ultimate status symbol, evoking images of sunglass-sporting shipping magnates sipping champagne on the deck of enormous yachts."

The price it insists, is really quite reasonable. The islands are "relatively affordable … costing as little as $2m – less than a ski chalet in Aspen or a walk-up on the Upper East Side".

Currently up for grabs is St Athanasios island, just 2.5 acres, in the Gulf of Corinth, with an asking price of €1.5m. Those who need more space might be interested in St Thomas, a 300 acre isle in the Diapori chain, a water taxi ride from Athens and on the market for €15m.

This week Papandreou set out his third round of austerity measures, including public sector pay cuts and tax increases. Greek unions announced a series of strikes in protest.

The Greek treasury successfully raised €5bn in a make-or-break bond issue, but more than €50bn of Greek debt is due this year – €20bn in the coming weeks – and the country needs to borrow more to meet repayments. If it cannot it will be in default and European banks with Greek investments would be forced into vast write-offs. The problem could then spread to other countries with huge deficits.


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What in god's name is going on over there? :shock: I just heard & watched this on Greek TV. This is will never happen. Greece will never sell out their islands & artwork's to anybody .. anymore. England still has Greek statues & art in their museums. One day, hopefully, they will be returned to Greece.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    God tough to strong arm an entire country
    craziness
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Greece and Goldman Sach's a recipe for disaster. Greece has no one in the EU willing to bail them out there has to be reason. What does Greece have that the EU wants. Its not the islands or art, that's would only serve as personal gain for someone or some corporation. So what else does Greece have - SHIPPING -.

    Greece's maritime industry is what the EU wants on the table in order to bail out Greece. If the people and government give up control of Greece's shipping industry they'll be reduced to nothing more than EU beggers dependent upon the charity crumbs of Germany and EU elite.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    So... how much you want for that there Cyclades? I got a hundred bucks.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    i have to answer with Greek way to this...
    we will sell them our 3
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Maybe Greece can sell Cyprus to Turkey? ;)
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    beggers
    dependent upon the elite.
    mmmmm is that not whats happening everywhere?
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Maybe Greece can sell Cyprus to Turkey? ;)
    usally they dont ask...
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Greek Prime Minister just talk in press in Berlin,i watch it now live...he said..NEVER gonna sold our Islands and art ... in Mercel face...
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Think about this...
    You sell the Parthanon to China and China buys it.
    So what? It's not like China can drive it off the lot, right? It stays there, but now... China has to pay for the upkeep. We sold Pebble Beach and Rockerfeller Center to the Japanese... but, they're still here.
    ...
    I say... sell off those Greek Islands... let some other country pay for them... and still enjoy them.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Cosmo wrote:
    Think about this...
    You sell the Parthanon to China and China buys it.
    So what? It's not like China can drive it off the lot, right? It stays there, but now... China has to pay for the upkeep. We sold Pebble Beach and Rockerfeller Center to the Japanese... but, they're still here.
    ...
    I say... sell off those Greek Islands... let some other country pay for them... and still enjoy them.
    dont have too..next tourist will come to Greece will pay 100$ a cup of coffee,the same time Greeks pay 5$
    Mercel just said that Germans will still come for tourism in Greece.. :lol: we are ok
    btw we already sold the ports in China...
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Maybe Greece could have reclaimed all their art treasures that have been pilfered and scattered around the world and sold them back! That could bring plenty of money in. Maybe then the price of Ouzo won't go up for tourists. :mrgreen:

    I can't phantom how a country leader could even suggest anything like she did!
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    redrock wrote:
    Maybe Greece could have reclaimed all their art treasures that have been pilfered and scattered around the world and sold them back! That could bring plenty of money in. Maybe then the price of Ouzo won't go up for tourists. :mrgreen:

    I can't phantom how a country leader could even suggest anything like she did!
    exactly!!after that start a war of boycote German product now...all talks about that...
    or we can sell the ones uk has in their museam.. :evil:
    and no worry about ouzo... :mrgreen:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,547
    Maybe Greece can sell Cyprus to Turkey? ;)

    Only if they give Greece back Constantinople. Someday, in the year's ahead of our time which it's been written in the bible & scrolls that the Greek's will get back Constantinople. It will reign in blood in the Mediterranean sea. We Greeks will get it back. Someday!
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    demetrios wrote:
    Maybe Greece can sell Cyprus to Turkey? ;)

    Only if they give Greece back Constantinople. Someday, in the year's ahead of our time which it's been written in the bible & scrolls that the Greek's will get back Constantinople. It will reign in blood in the Mediterranean sea. We Greeks will get it back. Someday!
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Greece just accept German offer..we sell them the 2 island.its on the news...we show them in the map.Corfu and Zakinthos
    so from now ,and sorry for that Malta and Sicily belongs to Germans :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Greeks..always find the way ;)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,547
    Greece just accept German offer..we sell them the 2 island.its on the news...we show them in the map.Corfu and Zakinthos
    so from now ,and sorry for that Malta and Sicily belongs to Germans :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Greeks..always find the way ;)

    Where did you hear this? It's official? Greece sold Corfu & Zakinthos to Germany? I'm watching the Olyssey & ANT1 Greek Channels & they haven't said nothing yet on that?
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    demetrios wrote:
    Greece just accept German offer..we sell them the 2 island.its on the news...we show them in the map.Corfu and Zakinthos
    so from now ,and sorry for that Malta and Sicily belongs to Germans :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Greeks..always find the way ;)

    Where did you hear this? It's official? Greece sold Corfu & Zakinthos to Germany? I'm watching the Olyssey & ANT1 Greek Channels & they haven't said nothing yet on that?
    ita joke that is in all Greece man..we sell them Corfu & Zakinthos.but .in the map we show them Malta and Sicily
    Greeks!!!!always survivors.... ;)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,547
    demetrios wrote:
    Greece just accept German offer..we sell them the 2 island.its on the news...we show them in the map.Corfu and Zakinthos
    so from now ,and sorry for that Malta and Sicily belongs to Germans :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Greeks..always find the way ;)

    Where did you hear this? It's official? Greece sold Corfu & Zakinthos to Germany? I'm watching the Olyssey & ANT1 Greek Channels & they haven't said nothing yet on that?
    ita joke that is in all Greece man..we sell them Corfu & Zakinthos.but .in the map we show them Malta and Sicily
    Greeks!!!!always survivors.... ;)

    I was gonna say man. It would of been hell & blood if that happened.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    demetrios wrote:
    ita joke that is in all Greece man..we sell them Corfu & Zakinthos.but .in the map we show them Malta and Sicily
    Greeks!!!!always survivors.... ;)

    I was gonna say man. It would of been hell & blood if that happened.
    exactly man,we arent gonna sell our history,our civilaization,our culture to no fucker..
    we bring to the world,Democracy,maths.filosophy,medicine,architecture.and all this history of thousands of years and we are one of the oldest and greatest nation in the planet..
    we are the country to KNOW how to say NO...so if they want our heritage,they must put down every fuckin one of us....
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    :lol::lol:
    a video show our answer to the selling island issue,,,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl94gKofEBY
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i just about choked when i heard it suggested on the news the other night that greece sell the parthenon to cover debts. though...
    a couple of sun sails and ive got a nice southern summer getaway.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    i just about choked when i heard it suggested on the news the other night that greece sell the parthenon to cover debts. though...
    a couple of sun sails and ive got a nice southern summer getaway.
    :D
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i just about choked when i heard it suggested on the news the other night that greece sell the parthenon to cover debts. though...
    a couple of sun sails and ive got a nice southern summer getaway.
    :D

    its not in a dodgy neighbourhood is it dimitris??
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    i just about choked when i heard it suggested on the news the other night that greece sell the parthenon to cover debts. though...
    a couple of sun sails and ive got a nice southern summer getaway.
    :D

    its not in a dodgy neighbourhood is it dimitris??
    yep,u are right ....already here we make fun of all this..but we cant sell spirit to cold ass people
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    It's a bit rich of the Germans to suggest this... here is a country that stole millions of valuable artifacts and art from every country it plundered through back in WW2.... I'm pretty sure it still has gold hidden somewhere in Switzerland.

    and England doesnt have Greek artifacts and stuff in its musems... the UK does... the first clue is in the name of the Museum, which is the British Museum, not the English Museum.

    sorry, but until Scotland gets independence I'll always point shit like that out ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    dunkman wrote:
    It's a bit rich of the Germans to suggest this... here is a country that stole millions of valuable artifacts and art from every country it plundered through back in WW2.... I'm pretty sure it still has gold hidden somewhere in Switzerland.

    and England doesnt have Greek artifacts and stuff in its musems... the UK does... the first clue is in the name of the Museum, which is the British Museum, not the English Museum.

    sorry, but until Scotland gets independence I'll always point shit like that out ;)
    well said Dunk... ;)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dunkman wrote:
    It's a bit rich of the Germans to suggest this... here is a country that stole millions of valuable artifacts and art from every country it plundered through back in WW2.... I'm pretty sure it still has gold hidden somewhere in Switzerland.

    and England doesnt have Greek artifacts and stuff in its musems... the UK does... the first clue is in the name of the Museum, which is the British Museum, not the English Museum.

    sorry, but until Scotland gets independence I'll always point shit like that out ;)

    Help me out there because I'm an ignorant American whose education system has failed him. Is England the whole entire island landmass comprised of the UK, Ireland, and Scotland or is the whole entire thing called the UK and England is a country within the UK?
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    If i get the question is the second ,is the whole entire thing called the UK and England is a country within the UK+wales+scotland+a part of ireland
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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