UN envoy on Gaza They're living in a kind of open-air prison

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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    yosi wrote:
    Polaris, please. It is obvious to anyone with eyes, simply from glancing at the board, that Pepe is obsessed (yes, obsessed) with a single issue, despite his claims to the contrary.

    are you serious? ... do a search on your own username and see where most of your posts are on ...
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    yosi wrote:
    It stopped being your thread the minute you posted it to a public board. Unless of course you believe that discourse should only be allowed to follow the lines you lay down for it. I think there's a phrase for that...cencorship maybe?

    maybe you should read up, yosi

    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=91525

    4. Please respect topic integrity by not derailing discussions from the original poster’s intent (OP). You can begin a new topic of your own in the appropriate forum.

    11. Gossip, not ok. Please don't do it.

    13. If you have a disagreement with someone, (and it happens occasionally) please take it to Private Message to resolve it. Arguments are removed or locked...it poisons the atmosphere. Try thinking of the bbs as if you were at a show. If the people next to you are fighting, it interferes with your enjoyment of the show.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    polaris_x wrote:
    rebornFixer wrote:
    Fair enough, dude ... Not sure what you found particularly immature in this thread, relative to everything else that goes on.

    the part that somehow pepe has to post about other places in the world (even tho he has) to prove he cares about human rights ... what's the point of that? ... especially to appease someone who admittedly says he doesn't care about politics ... which leads me to believe he's just here to stir shit ... which sometimes isn't a bad thing i suppose but in this case ...
    pepe post himself that care about ,when i post that he hates israel..this happens to palaistine isnt the best in the world..but its not the israelians the only evil in this planet...just admit that!!!
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    edited March 2010
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    rebornFixer wrote:
    Fair enough, dude ... Not sure what you found particularly immature in this thread, relative to everything else that goes on.

    the part that somehow pepe has to post about other places in the world (even tho he has) to prove he cares about human rights ... what's the point of that? ... especially to appease someone who admittedly says he doesn't care about politics ... which leads me to believe he's just here to stir shit ... which sometimes isn't a bad thing i suppose but in this case ...
    pepe post himself that care about ,when i post that he hates israel..this happens to palaistine isnt the best in the world..but its not the israelians the only evil in this planet...just admit that!!!

    you want me to admit a claim i never even made is false....? :roll: sure ok, israel isn't the only evil on the planet, don't let the fact that i never even implied this distract you....

    are ya happy now? can we get back to the point of the OP now?
    Post edited by Pepe Silvia on
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    Yes, because people on this this board really have so much respect for the rules. And yeah, Polaris, Israel is my big issue. I've never claimed otherwise.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    edited March 2010
    yosi wrote:
    Yes, because people on this this board really have so much respect for the rules. And yeah, Polaris, Israel is my big issue. I've never claimed otherwise.


    my, such an astonishingly narrow focus.... :lol:
    Post edited by Pepe Silvia on
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    btw Pepe,u are right that i mix your post,i just want to say my thoughts..we dont have the same opinion,but i really respect your passion about politics,i have other passion .and im really sorry..
    atleast we both love lost ;)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    btw Pepe,u are right that i mix your post,i just want to say my thoughts..we dont have the same opinion,but i really respect your passion about politics,i have other passion .and im really sorry..
    atleast we both love lost ;)

    sweet ... nothing like a good bitch session to sort things out! ... :lol:
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    polaris_x wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    btw Pepe,u are right that i mix your post,i just want to say my thoughts..we dont have the same opinion,but i really respect your passion about politics,i have other passion .and im really sorry..
    atleast we both love lost ;)

    sweet ... nothing like a good bitch session to sort things out! ... :lol:
    sometimes is good to know where to stop and get if u do mistakes..+ im a sweet guy :roll:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    An interesting perspective I think...

    Israel Apartheid Week: Hypocrisy and Betrayal

    This article by Israeli diplomat Ishmael Khaldi appears in the Open Forum section of the San Francisco Chronicle.

    For those who haven’t heard, the first week in March has been designated as Israel Apartheid Week by activists who are either ill intentioned or misinformed. On American campuses, organizing committees are planning happenings to once again castigate Israel as the lone responsible party for all that maligns the Middle East.

    Last year, at UC Berkeley, I had the opportunity to “dialogue” with some of the organizers of these events. My perspective is unique, both as the vice consul for Israel in San Francisco, and as a Bedouin and the highest-ranking Muslim representing the Israel in the United States. I was born into a Bedouin tribe in Northern Israel, one of 11 children, and began life as shepherd living in our family tent. I went on to serve in the Israeli border police, and later earned a master’s degree in political science from Tel Aviv University before joining the Israel Foreign Ministry.

    I am a proud Israeli - along with many other non-Jewish Israelis such as Druze, Bahai, Bedouin, Christians and Muslims, who live in one of the most culturally diversified societies and the only true democracy in the Middle East. Like America, Israeli society is far from perfect, but let us deals honestly. By any yardstick you choose - educational opportunity, economic development, women and gay’s rights, freedom of speech and assembly, legislative representation - Israel’s minorities fare far better than any other country in the Middle East

    So, I would like to share the following with organizers of Israel Apartheid week, for those of them who are open to dialogue and not blinded by a hateful ideology:

    You are part of the problem, not part of the solution: If you are really idealistic and committed to a better world, stop with the false rhetoric. We need moderate people to come together in good faith to help find the path to relieve the human suffering on both sides of the Israel-Palestinian conflict. Vilification and false labeling is a blind alley that is unjust and takes us nowhere.

    You deny Israel the fundamental right of every society to defend itself: You condemn Israel for building a security barrier to protect its citizens from suicide bombers and for striking at buildings from which missiles are launched at its cities - but you never offer an alternative. Aren’t you practicing yourself a deep form of racism by denying an entire society the right to defend itself?

    Your criticism is willfully hypocritical: Do Israel’s Arab citizens suffer from disadvantage? You better believe it. Do African Americans 10 minutes from the Berkeley campus suffer from disadvantage - you better believe it, too. So should we launch a Berkeley Apartheid Week, or should we seek real ways to better our societies and make opportunity more available.

    You are betraying the moderate Muslims and Jews who are working to achieve peace: Your radicalism is undermining the forces for peace in Israel and in the Palestinian territories. We are working hard to move toward a peace agreement that recognizes the legitimate rights of both Israel and the Palestinian people, and you are tearing down by falsely vilifying one side.

    To the organizers of Israel Apartheid Week I would like to say:

    If Israel were an apartheid state, I would not have been appointed here, nor would I have chosen to take upon myself this duty. There are many Arabs, both within Israel and in the Palestinian territories who have taken great courage to walk the path of peace. You should stand with us, rather than against us.

    Ishmael Khaldi is deputy consul general of Israel for the Pacific Northwest.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Pepe... don't want to derail further but just a lil' word for D....

    D... do start a thread.. just a post to express your thoughts. Doesn't have to evolve into a huge political discussion and you don't even have to follow it if you don't want to, but at least it will give you the opportunity to 'get if off your chest'. (And don't respond in this thread! :mrgreen: )

    Pepe... sorry.. the thread is yours again. Thanks.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    redrock wrote:
    Pepe... don't want to derail further but just a lil' word for D....

    D... do start a thread.. just a post to express your thoughts. Doesn't have to evolve into a huge political discussion and you don't even have to follow it if you don't want to, but at least it will give you the opportunity to 'get if off your chest'. (And don't respond in this thread! :mrgreen: )

    Pepe... sorry.. the thread is yours again. Thanks.
    i just responce only couse u said not too :mrgreen:
    and u are right Rita,that is my last post in those type of threads

    "LIVE LONG,LOVE AS MUCH AS U CAN ,PEACE" Eddie Vedder 15-8-09 Berlin

    back to thread Pepe,im sorry
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    btw Pepe,u are right that i mix your post,i just want to say my thoughts..we dont have the same opinion,but i really respect your passion about politics,i have other passion .and im really sorry..
    atleast we both love lost ;)


    for a few more months at least! do you get episodes the same time as we do here in the states?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    btw Pepe,u are right that i mix your post,i just want to say my thoughts..we dont have the same opinion,but i really respect your passion about politics,i have other passion .and im really sorry..
    atleast we both love lost ;)


    for a few more months at least! do you get episodes the same time as we do here in the states?
    the time they play it in states its 4 in the morning here..i download them the next day with torrent and watch them.there is too a private tv,u must pay ,thet they play them 2 days after..in free tv they are now finishing 5th season..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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