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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,750
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
    Random people who feel like joining a college protest I guess.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,750
    mace1229 said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
    Random people who feel like joining a college protest I guess.
    I feel safe assuming some aren't so random and are there for ulterior motives... it's not as if we haven't seen it elsewhere. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,784
    mace1229 said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
    Random people who feel like joining a college protest I guess.
    I feel safe assuming some aren't so random and are there for ulterior motives... it's not as if we haven't seen it elsewhere. 
    Definitely not so random. not sure where else we have seen American kids being coerced to support authoritarianism and terrorism based on lies.


    I posted the name of a key protest organizer in recent weeks on the other thread, the name is Nerdeen Kiswani, and her organization, WOL.


    Per Wikipedia,
    On 10 November, WOL protestors burned an Israeli flag at Columbus Circle, vandalized the New York Timesbuilding, tore down American flags, and later attempted to force their way into Grand Central Terminal, smashing windows and clashing with the NYPD.[36][37] On 17 November, The Times of Israel reported that the group posted maps on its social media accounts that detailed the locations of organizations that supported Israel in New York City, including Israel's consulate, the Central Fund of Israel, the Jewish Communal Fund, Blackrock, the New York Times, and Penn Station, saying they had "blood on their hands." The post ended with the phrase "From the river to the sea". The posts were condemned by elected officials and Jewish leaders, who claimed that the maps were antisemitic. Several other CUNY groups also shared the maps before they were deleted by WOL.[18] WOL stated that "the locations were chosen for their complicity in the genocide of Palestinians and have nothing to do with Judaism or Jewish people in general."[38] On 30 November, WOL organized an interfaith[39] protest, "Flood the Tree Lighting for Gaza", to disrupt the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree lighting.[On 15 April, WOL protestors clashed with pro-Israeli protestors at Wall Street and then attempted to occupy the Brooklyn Bridge until being dispersed by the NYPD,[54] later marching through Brooklyn and at one point burning an American flag.[24] On 17 April, WOL protestors arrived outside of Columbia University to support the campus occupation by pro-Palestinian student demonstrators demanding the university cut all financial ties with Israel.[55][56][57] Protestors were ultimately suppressed by the NYPD, which raided campus on 30 April. 



    yet the main protagonist on this forum is STILL making jokes about this topic, which doesn’t get noticed by mods, until people fight back. It’s not a joke. These are actual crimes being committed that has nothing to do with free speech. And many graduates are being robbed of a once in a lifetime commencement experience, so terrorists and live safely to plan more terrorist attacks.


    Free speech supporting authoritarianism and supporting those that violated the cease fire that started this current bloodshed.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,977
    mace1229 said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
    Random people who feel like joining a college protest I guess.
    I feel safe assuming some aren't so random and are there for ulterior motives... it's not as if we haven't seen it elsewhere. 
    Definitely not so random. not sure where else we have seen American kids being coerced to support authoritarianism and terrorism based on lies.


    I posted the name of a key protest organizer in recent weeks on the other thread, the name is Nerdeen Kiswani, and her organization, WOL.


    Per Wikipedia,
    On 10 November, WOL protestors burned an Israeli flag at Columbus Circle, vandalized the New York Timesbuilding, tore down American flags, and later attempted to force their way into Grand Central Terminal, smashing windows and clashing with the NYPD.[36][37] On 17 November, The Times of Israel reported that the group posted maps on its social media accounts that detailed the locations of organizations that supported Israel in New York City, including Israel's consulate, the Central Fund of Israel, the Jewish Communal Fund, Blackrock, the New York Times, and Penn Station, saying they had "blood on their hands." The post ended with the phrase "From the river to the sea". The posts were condemned by elected officials and Jewish leaders, who claimed that the maps were antisemitic. Several other CUNY groups also shared the maps before they were deleted by WOL.[18] WOL stated that "the locations were chosen for their complicity in the genocide of Palestinians and have nothing to do with Judaism or Jewish people in general."[38] On 30 November, WOL organized an interfaith[39] protest, "Flood the Tree Lighting for Gaza", to disrupt the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree lighting.[On 15 April, WOL protestors clashed with pro-Israeli protestors at Wall Street and then attempted to occupy the Brooklyn Bridge until being dispersed by the NYPD,[54] later marching through Brooklyn and at one point burning an American flag.[24] On 17 April, WOL protestors arrived outside of Columbia University to support the campus occupation by pro-Palestinian student demonstrators demanding the university cut all financial ties with Israel.[55][56][57] Protestors were ultimately suppressed by the NYPD, which raided campus on 30 April. 



    yet the main protagonist on this forum is STILL making jokes about this topic, which doesn’t get noticed by mods, until people fight back. It’s not a joke. These are actual crimes being committed that has nothing to do with free speech. And many graduates are being robbed of a once in a lifetime commencement experience, so terrorists and live safely to plan more terrorist attacks.


    Free speech supporting authoritarianism and supporting those that violated the cease fire that started this current bloodshed.
    Yours is not the only view nor opinion on this topic on this forum and elsewhere. Stop the canceling.
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  • cincybearcat
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    tbergs said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    Has Columbia fallen yet?
    I still find it interesting that someone can be against people breaking into the capital and for people breaking into buildings on campuses.  But you know both sides….errrrr something like that anyhow…
    hippiemom = goodness
  • pjl44
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    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
    Mostly the black bloc/antifa/etc cretins that always flood these things regardless of the cause
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    tbergs said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    Has Columbia fallen yet?
    I still find it interesting that someone can be against people breaking into the capital and for people breaking into buildings on campuses.  But you know both sides….errrrr something like that anyhow…
    Master class in horseshoe theory the last few months
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Equating the storming of the Capitol on January 6th to prevent the counting of the electoral college votes on behalf of an ex-president who has yet to concede with college kids and unaffiliated protesters occupying college administration buildings or common space is a funny joke. Ha, ha.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    pjl44 said:
    tbergs said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    Has Columbia fallen yet?
    I still find it interesting that someone can be against people breaking into the capital and for people breaking into buildings on campuses.  But you know both sides….errrrr something like that anyhow…
    Master class in horseshoe theory the last few months
    Yup. 
  • pjl44
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    pjl44 said:
    tbergs said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    Has Columbia fallen yet?
    I still find it interesting that someone can be against people breaking into the capital and for people breaking into buildings on campuses.  But you know both sides….errrrr something like that anyhow…
    Master class in horseshoe theory the last few months
    Yup. 
    My man
  • nicknyr15
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    Equating the storming of the Capitol on January 6th to prevent the counting of the electoral college votes on behalf of an ex-president who has yet to concede with college kids and unaffiliated protesters occupying college administration buildings or common space is a funny joke. Ha, ha.
    Sure. Everything stays the same but I put red hats on those kids and your opinion changes real quick. Ha ha. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Equating the storming of the Capitol on January 6th to prevent the counting of the electoral college votes on behalf of an ex-president who has yet to concede with college kids and unaffiliated protesters occupying college administration buildings or common space is a funny joke. Ha, ha.
    Sure. Everything stays the same but I put red hats on those kids and your opinion changes real quick. Ha ha. 
    I’m sure there’s red hats on some of them anyway. But we already know there’s “very fine people on both sides.”
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  • nicknyr15
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Equating the storming of the Capitol on January 6th to prevent the counting of the electoral college votes on behalf of an ex-president who has yet to concede with college kids and unaffiliated protesters occupying college administration buildings or common space is a funny joke. Ha, ha.
    Sure. Everything stays the same but I put red hats on those kids and your opinion changes real quick. Ha ha. 
    I’m sure there’s red hats on some of them anyway. But we already know there’s “very fine people on both sides.”
    Ok. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mace1229 said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
    Random people who feel like joining a college protest I guess.
    I feel safe assuming some aren't so random and are there for ulterior motives... it's not as if we haven't seen it elsewhere. 
    Definitely not so random. not sure where else we have seen American kids being coerced to support authoritarianism and terrorism based on lies.


    I posted the name of a key protest organizer in recent weeks on the other thread, the name is Nerdeen Kiswani, and her organization, WOL.


    Per Wikipedia,
    On 10 November, WOL protestors burned an Israeli flag at Columbus Circle, vandalized the New York Timesbuilding, tore down American flags, and later attempted to force their way into Grand Central Terminal, smashing windows and clashing with the NYPD.[36][37] On 17 November, The Times of Israel reported that the group posted maps on its social media accounts that detailed the locations of organizations that supported Israel in New York City, including Israel's consulate, the Central Fund of Israel, the Jewish Communal Fund, Blackrock, the New York Times, and Penn Station, saying they had "blood on their hands." The post ended with the phrase "From the river to the sea". The posts were condemned by elected officials and Jewish leaders, who claimed that the maps were antisemitic. Several other CUNY groups also shared the maps before they were deleted by WOL.[18] WOL stated that "the locations were chosen for their complicity in the genocide of Palestinians and have nothing to do with Judaism or Jewish people in general."[38] On 30 November, WOL organized an interfaith[39] protest, "Flood the Tree Lighting for Gaza", to disrupt the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree lighting.[On 15 April, WOL protestors clashed with pro-Israeli protestors at Wall Street and then attempted to occupy the Brooklyn Bridge until being dispersed by the NYPD,[54] later marching through Brooklyn and at one point burning an American flag.[24] On 17 April, WOL protestors arrived outside of Columbia University to support the campus occupation by pro-Palestinian student demonstrators demanding the university cut all financial ties with Israel.[55][56][57] Protestors were ultimately suppressed by the NYPD, which raided campus on 30 April. 



    yet the main protagonist on this forum is STILL making jokes about this topic, which doesn’t get noticed by mods, until people fight back. It’s not a joke. These are actual crimes being committed that has nothing to do with free speech. And many graduates are being robbed of a once in a lifetime commencement experience, so terrorists and live safely to plan more terrorist attacks.


    Free speech supporting authoritarianism and supporting those that violated the cease fire that started this current bloodshed.
    A different perspective from that of your wiki page. Some terrorist.

    Palestinian CUNY Law Student Viciously Harassed

    City University of New York School of Law (CUNY Law) student Nerdeen Kiswani is a well-known activist for Palestinian freedom. She chairs Within Our Lifetime–United for Palestine, a Palestinian-led community organization that builds support for Palestine in New York City. 

    As a vocal and visibly Muslim advocate for Palestinian liberation, Nerdeen is regularly targeted by Zionist groups who have smear campaigns and false accusations of antisemitism to vilify her.

    Since Nerdeen started CUNY Law in Fall 2019, anti-Palestinian students and groups, like StopAntisemitism and BDSReport, have targeted Nerdeen, often by using cyberbullying tactics.

    In September 2020, Nerdeen faced a character assassination campaign after she posted an old video of herself waving a lighter while criticizing a friend for wearing a T-shirt promoting the Israeli military.

    A vilification campaign based on this incident followed, and was bolstered by an Israeli-government affiliated app, which rewarded hundreds of users if they sent pre-scripted emails to the CUNY administration that falsely claimed Nerdeen had threatened a Zionist “fellow student” and called for her to be punished.

    Nerdeen’s friend was neither a Zionist nor a CUNY student.

    CUNY Law initially released statements condemning Nerdeen (which were later deleted) exposing her to further racist and violent vitriol.

    StopAntisemitism and the Zionist Organization of America have filed a Title VI complaint against CUNY in September 2020 based on false allegations against Nerdeen.

    In June 2021, after months of student pressure, CUNY Law issued a statement in support of Nerdeen, stating: “the Law School supports the free speech rights of Nerdeen Kiswani, other Palestinian students, and their Jewish and non-Jewish allies, who have been vilified for their activism.” 

    Outspoken Palestinian women like Nerdeen often face the fiercest attacks in Zionist harassment campaigns – ones that are fueled by violence, misogyny and racism.

    CUNY campuses also have a history of censoring criticism of Israel. Israel advocacy groups commonly make false accusations of antisemitism against students and faculty solely for speech in support of Palestinian rights, prompting investigations that have ultimately cleared Palestine advocates of wrongdoing. 

    The Law Office of Lamis Deek is representing Nerdeen in conjunction with Palestine Legal.

    Palestine Legal has proudly supported Nerdeen since she was co-president of Students for Justice in Palestine at CUNY-Staten Island in 2014.

    https://palestinelegal.org/case-studies/2021/8/20/palestinian-cuny-law-student-viciously-harassed

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  • Lerxst1992
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    edited May 2024
    mace1229 said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
    Random people who feel like joining a college protest I guess.
    I feel safe assuming some aren't so random and are there for ulterior motives... it's not as if we haven't seen it elsewhere. 
    Definitely not so random. not sure where else we have seen American kids being coerced to support authoritarianism and terrorism based on lies.


    I posted the name of a key protest organizer in recent weeks on the other thread, the name is Nerdeen Kiswani, and her organization, WOL.


    Per Wikipedia,
    On 10 November, WOL protestors burned an Israeli flag at Columbus Circle, vandalized the New York Timesbuilding, tore down American flags, and later attempted to force their way into Grand Central Terminal, smashing windows and clashing with the NYPD.[36][37] On 17 November, The Times of Israel reported that the group posted maps on its social media accounts that detailed the locations of organizations that supported Israel in New York City, including Israel's consulate, the Central Fund of Israel, the Jewish Communal Fund, Blackrock, the New York Times, and Penn Station, saying they had "blood on their hands." The post ended with the phrase "From the river to the sea". The posts were condemned by elected officials and Jewish leaders, who claimed that the maps were antisemitic. Several other CUNY groups also shared the maps before they were deleted by WOL.[18] WOL stated that "the locations were chosen for their complicity in the genocide of Palestinians and have nothing to do with Judaism or Jewish people in general."[38] On 30 November, WOL organized an interfaith[39] protest, "Flood the Tree Lighting for Gaza", to disrupt the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree lighting.[On 15 April, WOL protestors clashed with pro-Israeli protestors at Wall Street and then attempted to occupy the Brooklyn Bridge until being dispersed by the NYPD,[54] later marching through Brooklyn and at one point burning an American flag.[24] On 17 April, WOL protestors arrived outside of Columbia University to support the campus occupation by pro-Palestinian student demonstrators demanding the university cut all financial ties with Israel.[55][56][57] Protestors were ultimately suppressed by the NYPD, which raided campus on 30 April. 



    yet the main protagonist on this forum is STILL making jokes about this topic, which doesn’t get noticed by mods, until people fight back. It’s not a joke. These are actual crimes being committed that has nothing to do with free speech. And many graduates are being robbed of a once in a lifetime commencement experience, so terrorists and live safely to plan more terrorist attacks.


    Free speech supporting authoritarianism and supporting those that violated the cease fire that started this current bloodshed.
    A different perspective from that of your wiki page. Some terrorist.

    Palestinian CUNY Law Student Viciously Harassed

    City University of New York School of Law (CUNY Law) student Nerdeen Kiswani is a well-known activist for Palestinian freedom. She chairs Within Our Lifetime–United for Palestine, a Palestinian-led community organization that builds support for Palestine in New York City. 

    As a vocal and visibly Muslim advocate for Palestinian liberation, Nerdeen is regularly targeted by Zionist groups who have smear campaigns and false accusations of antisemitism to vilify her.

    Since Nerdeen started CUNY Law in Fall 2019, anti-Palestinian students and groups, like StopAntisemitism and BDSReport, have targeted Nerdeen, often by using cyberbullying tactics.

    In September 2020, Nerdeen faced a character assassination campaign after she posted an old video of herself waving a lighter while criticizing a friend for wearing a T-shirt promoting the Israeli military.

    A vilification campaign based on this incident followed, and was bolstered by an Israeli-government affiliated app, which rewarded hundreds of users if they sent pre-scripted emails to the CUNY administration that falsely claimed Nerdeen had threatened a Zionist “fellow student” and called for her to be punished.

    Nerdeen’s friend was neither a Zionist nor a CUNY student.

    CUNY Law initially released statements condemning Nerdeen (which were later deleted) exposing her to further racist and violent vitriol.

    StopAntisemitism and the Zionist Organization of America have filed a Title VI complaint against CUNY in September 2020 based on false allegations against Nerdeen.

    In June 2021, after months of student pressure, CUNY Law issued a statement in support of Nerdeen, stating: “the Law School supports the free speech rights of Nerdeen Kiswani, other Palestinian students, and their Jewish and non-Jewish allies, who have been vilified for their activism.” 

    Outspoken Palestinian women like Nerdeen often face the fiercest attacks in Zionist harassment campaigns – ones that are fueled by violence, misogyny and racism.

    CUNY campuses also have a history of censoring criticism of Israel. Israel advocacy groups commonly make false accusations of antisemitism against students and faculty solely for speech in support of Palestinian rights, prompting investigations that have ultimately cleared Palestine advocates of wrongdoing. 

    The Law Office of Lamis Deek is representing Nerdeen in conjunction with Palestine Legal.

    Palestine Legal has proudly supported Nerdeen since she was co-president of Students for Justice in Palestine at CUNY-Staten Island in 2014.

    https://palestinelegal.org/case-studies/2021/8/20/palestinian-cuny-law-student-viciously-harassed


    Are the protesters breaking the law? Yes. Are they failing to obtain proper permits for public assembly. Yes

    the constitution provides for peaceable assembly, not for breaking the law.


    recent Harvard poll, although majority of young vote want cease fire , this issue was second to last, 15 out of 16. Are American kids being exploited and manipulated by a vocal and mostly foreign minority, and in return lose their once a lifetime commencement experience?


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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    pjl44 said:
    tbergs said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    Has Columbia fallen yet?
    I still find it interesting that someone can be against people breaking into the capital and for people breaking into buildings on campuses.  But you know both sides….errrrr something like that anyhow…
    Master class in horseshoe theory the last few months
    Except one end of the horseshoe are mainstream republicans. When two thing that are different are declared the same, it enables and normalizes Trump and the party’s worship of him. 
  • pjl44
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    pjl44 said:
    tbergs said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    Has Columbia fallen yet?
    I still find it interesting that someone can be against people breaking into the capital and for people breaking into buildings on campuses.  But you know both sides….errrrr something like that anyhow…
    Master class in horseshoe theory the last few months
    Except one end of the horseshoe are mainstream republicans. When two thing that are different are declared the same, it enables and normalizes Trump and the party’s worship of him. 
    There's a cautionary tale in there if one chooses to see it 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mace1229 said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
    Random people who feel like joining a college protest I guess.
    I feel safe assuming some aren't so random and are there for ulterior motives... it's not as if we haven't seen it elsewhere. 
    Definitely not so random. not sure where else we have seen American kids being coerced to support authoritarianism and terrorism based on lies.


    I posted the name of a key protest organizer in recent weeks on the other thread, the name is Nerdeen Kiswani, and her organization, WOL.


    Per Wikipedia,
    On 10 November, WOL protestors burned an Israeli flag at Columbus Circle, vandalized the New York Timesbuilding, tore down American flags, and later attempted to force their way into Grand Central Terminal, smashing windows and clashing with the NYPD.[36][37] On 17 November, The Times of Israel reported that the group posted maps on its social media accounts that detailed the locations of organizations that supported Israel in New York City, including Israel's consulate, the Central Fund of Israel, the Jewish Communal Fund, Blackrock, the New York Times, and Penn Station, saying they had "blood on their hands." The post ended with the phrase "From the river to the sea". The posts were condemned by elected officials and Jewish leaders, who claimed that the maps were antisemitic. Several other CUNY groups also shared the maps before they were deleted by WOL.[18] WOL stated that "the locations were chosen for their complicity in the genocide of Palestinians and have nothing to do with Judaism or Jewish people in general."[38] On 30 November, WOL organized an interfaith[39] protest, "Flood the Tree Lighting for Gaza", to disrupt the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree lighting.[On 15 April, WOL protestors clashed with pro-Israeli protestors at Wall Street and then attempted to occupy the Brooklyn Bridge until being dispersed by the NYPD,[54] later marching through Brooklyn and at one point burning an American flag.[24] On 17 April, WOL protestors arrived outside of Columbia University to support the campus occupation by pro-Palestinian student demonstrators demanding the university cut all financial ties with Israel.[55][56][57] Protestors were ultimately suppressed by the NYPD, which raided campus on 30 April. 



    yet the main protagonist on this forum is STILL making jokes about this topic, which doesn’t get noticed by mods, until people fight back. It’s not a joke. These are actual crimes being committed that has nothing to do with free speech. And many graduates are being robbed of a once in a lifetime commencement experience, so terrorists and live safely to plan more terrorist attacks.


    Free speech supporting authoritarianism and supporting those that violated the cease fire that started this current bloodshed.
    A different perspective from that of your wiki page. Some terrorist.

    Palestinian CUNY Law Student Viciously Harassed

    City University of New York School of Law (CUNY Law) student Nerdeen Kiswani is a well-known activist for Palestinian freedom. She chairs Within Our Lifetime–United for Palestine, a Palestinian-led community organization that builds support for Palestine in New York City. 

    As a vocal and visibly Muslim advocate for Palestinian liberation, Nerdeen is regularly targeted by Zionist groups who have smear campaigns and false accusations of antisemitism to vilify her.

    Since Nerdeen started CUNY Law in Fall 2019, anti-Palestinian students and groups, like StopAntisemitism and BDSReport, have targeted Nerdeen, often by using cyberbullying tactics.

    In September 2020, Nerdeen faced a character assassination campaign after she posted an old video of herself waving a lighter while criticizing a friend for wearing a T-shirt promoting the Israeli military.

    A vilification campaign based on this incident followed, and was bolstered by an Israeli-government affiliated app, which rewarded hundreds of users if they sent pre-scripted emails to the CUNY administration that falsely claimed Nerdeen had threatened a Zionist “fellow student” and called for her to be punished.

    Nerdeen’s friend was neither a Zionist nor a CUNY student.

    CUNY Law initially released statements condemning Nerdeen (which were later deleted) exposing her to further racist and violent vitriol.

    StopAntisemitism and the Zionist Organization of America have filed a Title VI complaint against CUNY in September 2020 based on false allegations against Nerdeen.

    In June 2021, after months of student pressure, CUNY Law issued a statement in support of Nerdeen, stating: “the Law School supports the free speech rights of Nerdeen Kiswani, other Palestinian students, and their Jewish and non-Jewish allies, who have been vilified for their activism.” 

    Outspoken Palestinian women like Nerdeen often face the fiercest attacks in Zionist harassment campaigns – ones that are fueled by violence, misogyny and racism.

    CUNY campuses also have a history of censoring criticism of Israel. Israel advocacy groups commonly make false accusations of antisemitism against students and faculty solely for speech in support of Palestinian rights, prompting investigations that have ultimately cleared Palestine advocates of wrongdoing. 

    The Law Office of Lamis Deek is representing Nerdeen in conjunction with Palestine Legal.

    Palestine Legal has proudly supported Nerdeen since she was co-president of Students for Justice in Palestine at CUNY-Staten Island in 2014.

    https://palestinelegal.org/case-studies/2021/8/20/palestinian-cuny-law-student-viciously-harassed


    Are the protesters breaking the law? Yes. Are they failing to obtain proper permits for public assembly. Yes

    the constitution provides for peaceable assembly, not for breaking the law.


    recent Harvard poll, although majority of young vote want cease fire , this issue was second to last, 15 out of 16. Are American kids being exploited and manipulated by a vocal and mostly foreign minority, and in return lose their once a lifetime commencement experience?


    Is Israel violating international law, US law as it applies to weapons transfers and humanitarian considerations? And if one were to put those two issues on separate sides of a scale, which is more egregious? Students missing graduation and free speech assembly law violations versus 34,000+ dead Palestinians, paid for with US tax dollars? I know how my conscience weighs those two things.

    Link to your poll? Here’s one you should consider:

    https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

    Are students being manipulated and brainwashed by Hillel organizations on college campuses? By an organization funded in part by the Israeli government and provided with canned talking points? One that stifles any debate or discussion about Palestine? One that cancels their own membership for trying to discuss the topic with representatives of the opposition?
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    mace1229 said:
    Just look at all the violence on these college campuses! Something must be done! Shut it all down! How dare they!
    Why ZooMass, Amherst lost their commencement speaker, oh the horror!

    "Whitehead’s announcement follows the arrests of more than 130 people — over half of whom were students — on the UMass Amherst campus Tuesday night."

    So, if "over half" were students, who were the other 40% or so? 
    Random people who feel like joining a college protest I guess.
    I feel safe assuming some aren't so random and are there for ulterior motives... it's not as if we haven't seen it elsewhere. 
    Definitely not so random. not sure where else we have seen American kids being coerced to support authoritarianism and terrorism based on lies.


    I posted the name of a key protest organizer in recent weeks on the other thread, the name is Nerdeen Kiswani, and her organization, WOL.


    Per Wikipedia,
    On 10 November, WOL protestors burned an Israeli flag at Columbus Circle, vandalized the New York Timesbuilding, tore down American flags, and later attempted to force their way into Grand Central Terminal, smashing windows and clashing with the NYPD.[36][37] On 17 November, The Times of Israel reported that the group posted maps on its social media accounts that detailed the locations of organizations that supported Israel in New York City, including Israel's consulate, the Central Fund of Israel, the Jewish Communal Fund, Blackrock, the New York Times, and Penn Station, saying they had "blood on their hands." The post ended with the phrase "From the river to the sea". The posts were condemned by elected officials and Jewish leaders, who claimed that the maps were antisemitic. Several other CUNY groups also shared the maps before they were deleted by WOL.[18] WOL stated that "the locations were chosen for their complicity in the genocide of Palestinians and have nothing to do with Judaism or Jewish people in general."[38] On 30 November, WOL organized an interfaith[39] protest, "Flood the Tree Lighting for Gaza", to disrupt the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree lighting.[On 15 April, WOL protestors clashed with pro-Israeli protestors at Wall Street and then attempted to occupy the Brooklyn Bridge until being dispersed by the NYPD,[54] later marching through Brooklyn and at one point burning an American flag.[24] On 17 April, WOL protestors arrived outside of Columbia University to support the campus occupation by pro-Palestinian student demonstrators demanding the university cut all financial ties with Israel.[55][56][57] Protestors were ultimately suppressed by the NYPD, which raided campus on 30 April. 



    yet the main protagonist on this forum is STILL making jokes about this topic, which doesn’t get noticed by mods, until people fight back. It’s not a joke. These are actual crimes being committed that has nothing to do with free speech. And many graduates are being robbed of a once in a lifetime commencement experience, so terrorists and live safely to plan more terrorist attacks.


    Free speech supporting authoritarianism and supporting those that violated the cease fire that started this current bloodshed.
    A different perspective from that of your wiki page. Some terrorist.

    Palestinian CUNY Law Student Viciously Harassed

    City University of New York School of Law (CUNY Law) student Nerdeen Kiswani is a well-known activist for Palestinian freedom. She chairs Within Our Lifetime–United for Palestine, a Palestinian-led community organization that builds support for Palestine in New York City. 

    As a vocal and visibly Muslim advocate for Palestinian liberation, Nerdeen is regularly targeted by Zionist groups who have smear campaigns and false accusations of antisemitism to vilify her.

    Since Nerdeen started CUNY Law in Fall 2019, anti-Palestinian students and groups, like StopAntisemitism and BDSReport, have targeted Nerdeen, often by using cyberbullying tactics.

    In September 2020, Nerdeen faced a character assassination campaign after she posted an old video of herself waving a lighter while criticizing a friend for wearing a T-shirt promoting the Israeli military.

    A vilification campaign based on this incident followed, and was bolstered by an Israeli-government affiliated app, which rewarded hundreds of users if they sent pre-scripted emails to the CUNY administration that falsely claimed Nerdeen had threatened a Zionist “fellow student” and called for her to be punished.

    Nerdeen’s friend was neither a Zionist nor a CUNY student.

    CUNY Law initially released statements condemning Nerdeen (which were later deleted) exposing her to further racist and violent vitriol.

    StopAntisemitism and the Zionist Organization of America have filed a Title VI complaint against CUNY in September 2020 based on false allegations against Nerdeen.

    In June 2021, after months of student pressure, CUNY Law issued a statement in support of Nerdeen, stating: “the Law School supports the free speech rights of Nerdeen Kiswani, other Palestinian students, and their Jewish and non-Jewish allies, who have been vilified for their activism.” 

    Outspoken Palestinian women like Nerdeen often face the fiercest attacks in Zionist harassment campaigns – ones that are fueled by violence, misogyny and racism.

    CUNY campuses also have a history of censoring criticism of Israel. Israel advocacy groups commonly make false accusations of antisemitism against students and faculty solely for speech in support of Palestinian rights, prompting investigations that have ultimately cleared Palestine advocates of wrongdoing. 

    The Law Office of Lamis Deek is representing Nerdeen in conjunction with Palestine Legal.

    Palestine Legal has proudly supported Nerdeen since she was co-president of Students for Justice in Palestine at CUNY-Staten Island in 2014.

    https://palestinelegal.org/case-studies/2021/8/20/palestinian-cuny-law-student-viciously-harassed


    Are the protesters breaking the law? Yes. Are they failing to obtain proper permits for public assembly. Yes

    the constitution provides for peaceable assembly, not for breaking the law.


    recent Harvard poll, although majority of young vote want cease fire , this issue was second to last, 15 out of 16. Are American kids being exploited and manipulated by a vocal and mostly foreign minority, and in return lose their once a lifetime commencement experience?


    I don’t think you need a permit when it’s campus property.