During Echols' trial, Dr. George W. Woods testified (for the defense) that Echols suffered from:
"... serious mental illness characterized by grandiose and persecutory delusions, auditory and visual hallucinations, disordered thought processes, substantial lack of insight, and chronic, incapacitating mood swings."
Just a kid who wore black and listened to heavy metal music????
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
so speedy, you think people should be convicted and executed merely on confessions? If jessies confession matched the crime scene, and jessie's dna was at the crime scene that would be a different story entirely. But since none of his dna is at the crime scene, nor is the dna of the murdered boys at jessies house, or on his clothes, then we are discussing something different here.
How do you propose speedy, that 3 teens, murdered 3 young boys, and not one of the teen murderers left behind any dna at the crime scene?
Your beliefs suggest something else too. Say, there is a murder in your hometown. the police find someone who confesses. that person has a grudge against you, or is just insane. and they say, "me and speedy murdered this guy". yet when police view the crime scene your dna is not at the scene. your clothes dont have the victims dna on it. no one saw you with the "killer" or the victim. and the confessor himself, has no dna at the scene, and no dna on his clothes.
any sane person would suggest....OH MY GOD... that you and this confessor, were innocent. right?
according to your paradigm, you and this hypothetical guy should be executed.
During Echols' trial, Dr. George W. Woods testified (for the defense) that Echols suffered from:
"... serious mental illness characterized by grandiose and persecutory delusions, auditory and visual hallucinations, disordered thought processes, substantial lack of insight, and chronic, incapacitating mood swings."
Just a kid who wore black and listened to heavy metal music????
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!
so every mentally ill person is a killer? damien could have thought himself to be our savior jesus christ himself, and the evidence wouldnt change one iota. damien, jessie, and jasons dna is nowhere at the scene, thus they couldnt have committed the crime.
i want to here a real, and serious answer as to how three inexperienced teens committed a horrific crime, and didnt leave one shred of dna at the scene, and didnt get any dna on their clothes or shoes. how is that possible? It defies common sense.
if mentally ill emotional states is so imperitive, why arent you fervent in the belief that hobbs is guilty as sin?
so speedy, you think people should be convicted and executed merely on confessions? If jessies confession matched the crime scene, and jessie's dna was at the crime scene that would be a different story entirely. But since none of his dna is at the crime scene, nor is the dna of the murdered boys at jessies house, or on his clothes, then we are discussing something different here.
How do you propose speedy, that 3 teens, murdered 3 young boys, and not one of the teen murderers left behind any dna at the crime scene?
Your beliefs suggest something else too. Say, there is a murder in your hometown. the police find someone who confesses. that person has a grudge against you, or is just insane. and they say, "me and speedy murdered this guy". yet when police view the crime scene your dna is not at the scene. your clothes dont have the victims dna on it. no one saw you with the "killer" or the victim. and the confessor himself, has no dna at the scene, and no dna on his clothes.
any sane person would suggest....OH MY GOD... that you and this confessor, were innocent. right?
according to your paradigm, you and this hypothetical guy should be executed.
especially when the first confession said he watched echols rape the boys. the boys were never sexually assaulted but at the time of the confession the police thought they were...he was supposedly there and mistakenly thought he saw all the kids get raped? so, if that part of his confession is untrue and basically coerced why should anyone believe the rest of the confession??
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
During Echols' trial, Dr. George W. Woods testified (for the defense) that Echols suffered from:
"... serious mental illness characterized by grandiose and persecutory delusions, auditory and visual hallucinations, disordered thought processes, substantial lack of insight, and chronic, incapacitating mood swings."
Just a kid who wore black and listened to heavy metal music????
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!
so every mentally ill person is a killer? damien could have thought himself to be our savior jesus christ himself, and the evidence wouldnt change one iota. damien, jessie, and jasons dna is nowhere at the scene, thus they couldnt have committed the crime.
i want to here a real, and serious answer as to how three inexperienced teens committed a horrific crime, and didnt leave one shred of dna at the scene, and didnt get any dna on their clothes or shoes. how is that possible? It defies common sense.
if mentally ill emotional states is so imperitive, why arent you fervent in the belief that hobbs is guilty as sin?
bah, what evidence is there of his guilt??? i mean other than his hair in 1 of the knots in the rope that the kids were tied up with.....
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
All one needs to know about the justice system is this 403 treaties were put on the table by native americans. every single one, every last one of them was refused and not honored by american society.
You clearly lack a basic understanding of the Branches of Government. Upholding/Ratifying treaties has nothing to do with the "justice system" you are railing against. "American society" what does that even mean in this context? What low level documentary are you quoting here?
I have wrote this before, but my niece lived in West Memphis for several years and when she tried to ask the locals about it, she got no answers. They acted as if they knew nothing about it. But, finally, a woman she knows well told her that it is something NOT TO BE TALKED ABOUT.
In the black community, they believe these boys did it and that is that!
They should have got a change in venue immediately.
heather, you are completely right. i have been to WM a few times myself and it is a very delicate subject there. of course, i can understand why -- the horrific murders of 3 small boys is difficult enough, but add in the questionable nature of the arrests and trials and you have a real controversy.
My niece lived in a mainly black area. She asked several people about the WM3 and they acted as if they never heard of it, or gave her strange looks. Later, her boss told her it is something they just don't talk about it and that she shouldn't talk about it too!
Again, to me that means a change of venue should have happened. I wonder if the it can happen this long aftewards. Like, in an appeal, stating bad representation 'cuz their lawyers didn't ask for a change of venue.
The prejudice is unbelievable!!
Yet another story on the West Memphis 3, that refuses to give all the FACTS. Why didn't 48 hours give us some background on Damien Echols? Why not let the viewing audience know about the time Damien Echols spent in a mental illness facility, before he was convicted of murder? Why not let people know that Damien Echols once threatened to kill and eat his father? Why not let people know that Damien Echols once threatened to kill a police officer? These are facts, that are documented by police reports and medical records.
Why not bring up the FACT that Damien Echols is on permanent disability due to his mental illness?
Why not let people know that Jesse Misskelley confessed more than once? Why not bring up the FACT that Jesse confessed a second time, with his LAWYER present?
Why not bring up the fact that Jason Baldwin supposedly confessed his part in the crime, to Michael Carson? Michael Carson spent time in the Craighead County Detention Center with Jason Baldwin. Why not bring up the FACT that Michael Carson PASSED a polygraph, when questioned about his statements regarding Jason Baldwin?
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Yet another story on the West Memphis 3, that refuses to give all the FACTS. Why didn't 48 hours give us some background on Damien Echols? Why not let the viewing audience know about the time Damien Echols spent in a mental illness facility, before he was convicted of murder? Why not let people know that Damien Echols once threatened to kill and eat his father? Why not let people know that Damien Echols once threatened to kill a police officer? These are facts, that are documented by police reports and medical records.
Why not bring up the FACT that Damien Echols is on permanent disability due to his mental illness?
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"... serious mental illness characterized by grandiose and persecutory delusions, auditory and visual hallucinations, disordered thought processes, substantial lack of insight, and chronic, incapacitating mood swings."
Just a kid who wore black and listened to heavy metal music????
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
How do you propose speedy, that 3 teens, murdered 3 young boys, and not one of the teen murderers left behind any dna at the crime scene?
Your beliefs suggest something else too. Say, there is a murder in your hometown. the police find someone who confesses. that person has a grudge against you, or is just insane. and they say, "me and speedy murdered this guy". yet when police view the crime scene your dna is not at the scene. your clothes dont have the victims dna on it. no one saw you with the "killer" or the victim. and the confessor himself, has no dna at the scene, and no dna on his clothes.
any sane person would suggest....OH MY GOD... that you and this confessor, were innocent. right?
according to your paradigm, you and this hypothetical guy should be executed.
so every mentally ill person is a killer? damien could have thought himself to be our savior jesus christ himself, and the evidence wouldnt change one iota. damien, jessie, and jasons dna is nowhere at the scene, thus they couldnt have committed the crime.
i want to here a real, and serious answer as to how three inexperienced teens committed a horrific crime, and didnt leave one shred of dna at the scene, and didnt get any dna on their clothes or shoes. how is that possible? It defies common sense.
if mentally ill emotional states is so imperitive, why arent you fervent in the belief that hobbs is guilty as sin?
especially when the first confession said he watched echols rape the boys. the boys were never sexually assaulted but at the time of the confession the police thought they were...he was supposedly there and mistakenly thought he saw all the kids get raped? so, if that part of his confession is untrue and basically coerced why should anyone believe the rest of the confession??
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
bah, what evidence is there of his guilt??? i mean other than his hair in 1 of the knots in the rope that the kids were tied up with.....
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
You clearly lack a basic understanding of the Branches of Government. Upholding/Ratifying treaties has nothing to do with the "justice system" you are railing against. "American society" what does that even mean in this context? What low level documentary are you quoting here?
Again, to me that means a change of venue should have happened. I wonder if the it can happen this long aftewards. Like, in an appeal, stating bad representation 'cuz their lawyers didn't ask for a change of venue.
The prejudice is unbelievable!!
Why not bring up the FACT that Damien Echols is on permanent disability due to his mental illness?
Why not let people know that Jesse Misskelley confessed more than once? Why not bring up the FACT that Jesse confessed a second time, with his LAWYER present?
Why not bring up the fact that Jason Baldwin supposedly confessed his part in the crime, to Michael Carson? Michael Carson spent time in the Craighead County Detention Center with Jason Baldwin. Why not bring up the FACT that Michael Carson PASSED a polygraph, when questioned about his statements regarding Jason Baldwin?
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Maybe because they're not relevant?