Question for the recovering alcoholics

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edited February 2010 in All Encompassing Trip
Is there ever a point in your recovery when you "drink in moderation"? Or is it important/necessary to give it up 100%?
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  • mikalina
    mikalina Posts: 7,206
    According to AA, an alcoholic can never, never drink again!! I know this because my cousin has battled this problem his entire life. Good luck.
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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    edited February 2010
    mikalina wrote:
    According to AA, an alcoholic can never, never drink again!! I know this because my cousin has battled this problem his entire life. Good luck.

    Thanks! I'm not asking for myself. I'm wondering because of my friend's husband, who gave it up for 4 months and is now telling her that he started drinking again because he feels he can drink in moderation, but she thinks he's full of shit and needs to give it up 100%. His drinking has been a huge problem in their marriage for over 10 years and is the reason they don't have kids, despite the fact that they both want them. :(

    ETA: I just wanted to double-check that she's not being too hard on him.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    scb wrote:
    mikalina wrote:
    According to AA, an alcoholic can never, never drink again!! I know this because my cousin has battled this problem his entire life. Good luck.

    Thanks! I'm not asking for myself. I'm wondering because of my friend's husband, who gave it up for 4 months and is now telling her that he started drinking again because he feels he can drink in moderation, but she thinks he's full of shit and needs to give it up 100%. His drinking has been a huge problem in their marriage for over 10 years and is the reason they don't have kids, despite the fact that they both want them. :(


    he can't... addiction can't be turned off or controlled... every alcoholic will say they can drink in moderation... i don't think i've ever seen it

    oh and i'm not an alcoholic but have friends that are and i've discussed this with them...you friends husband needs to get help if his drinking is affecting his and others lives
  • _
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    norm wrote:
    scb wrote:
    mikalina wrote:
    According to AA, an alcoholic can never, never drink again!! I know this because my cousin has battled this problem his entire life. Good luck.

    Thanks! I'm not asking for myself. I'm wondering because of my friend's husband, who gave it up for 4 months and is now telling her that he started drinking again because he feels he can drink in moderation, but she thinks he's full of shit and needs to give it up 100%. His drinking has been a huge problem in their marriage for over 10 years and is the reason they don't have kids, despite the fact that they both want them. :(


    he can't... addiction can't be turned off or controlled... every alcoholic will say they can drink in moderation... i don't think i've ever seen it

    oh and i'm not an alcoholic but have friends that are and i've discussed this with them...you friends husband needs to get help if his drinking is affecting his and others lives

    Thanks. I agree that he needs help. But he won't get it. Sometimes he admits that he has a problem but says he'll kick it on his own. Other times he says he doesn't have a problem and/or that he'll just drink in moderation and that's okay. It's so sad. It's really ruining their lives. :cry:
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,795
    norm wrote:
    scb wrote:
    mikalina wrote:
    According to AA, an alcoholic can never, never drink again!! I know this because my cousin has battled this problem his entire life. Good luck.

    Thanks! I'm not asking for myself. I'm wondering because of my friend's husband, who gave it up for 4 months and is now telling her that he started drinking again because he feels he can drink in moderation, but she thinks he's full of shit and needs to give it up 100%. His drinking has been a huge problem in their marriage for over 10 years and is the reason they don't have kids, despite the fact that they both want them. :(


    he can't... addiction can't be turned off or controlled... every alcoholic will say they can drink in moderation... i don't think i've ever seen it

    oh and i'm not an alcoholic but have friends that are and i've discussed this with them...you friends husband needs to get help if his drinking is affecting his and others lives
    Well, I AM an alcoholic and what Norms friends have said is true. That thought has to be banished from the brain , that we can drink as a "normal" people can. I can state with certainty that until HE sees that he can't AND needs help to not drink, nothing she can really do but protect herself. You might suggest to her that she look into Alanon. Could help her even if he still drinks. Good luck to her.
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  • MookieBfan01
    MookieBfan01 Posts: 15
    I second mickeyrat! 5 1/2yrs sober & I still battle the addiction EVERY day. Good friends,family & a desire to never return to that life gets me through.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,795
    MookieBfan01 wrote:
    I second mickeyrat! 5 1/2yrs sober & I still battle the addiction EVERY day. Good friends,family & a desire to never return to that life gets me through.
    8-) Rock on!!!!!!
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  • cowboypjfan
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    edited July 2010
    aaaa
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,795
    crazypjfan wrote:
    Fuck AA. You can either control it or you can't. Don't give me this shit that you need to talk with a room full of alky's to deal with it. BULL!
    right. I can't. AA has worked for me going on 4 years. There's your bullshit.

    If one can't control it , then what? Drink themselves to death? What is the solution if AA is bullshit?
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    mickeyrat wrote:
    crazypjfan wrote:
    Fuck AA. You can either control it or you can't. Don't give me this shit that you need to talk with a room full of alky's to deal with it. BULL!
    right. I can't. AA has worked for me going on 4 years. There's your bullshit.

    If one can't control it , then what? Drink themselves to death? What is the solution if AA is bullshit?


    don't bother mick...i don't think there's a lot of maturity and intellect there...best to just let it go ;)
  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    edited July 2010
    bump
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,795
    norm wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    crazypjfan wrote:
    Fuck AA. You can either control it or you can't. Don't give me this shit that you need to talk with a room full of alky's to deal with it. BULL!
    right. I can't. AA has worked for me going on 4 years. There's your bullshit.

    If one can't control it , then what? Drink themselves to death? What is the solution if AA is bullshit?


    don't bother mick...i don't think there's a lot of maturity and intellect there...best to just let it go ;)
    I know. But still , I'm always interested to hear of other "solutions" . Won't change MY membership in AA. We don't claim the only way to get and stay sober. Just claim what works for us.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,795
    crazypjfan wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    crazypjfan wrote:
    Fuck AA. You can either control it or you can't. Don't give me this shit that you need to talk with a room full of alky's to deal with it. BULL!
    right. I can't. AA has worked for me going on 4 years. There's your bullshit.

    If one can't control it , then what? Drink themselves to death? What is the solution if AA is bullshit?

    Thats your CHOICE dude.
    Choice to what? If one can't control and drinks obsessively where is the choice in that?
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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    edited July 2010
    aa
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Choice to what? If one can't control and drinks obsessively where is the choice in that?

    You're trying to rationalize with irrational people
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,795
    mookeywrench wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Choice to what? If one can't control and drinks obsessively where is the choice in that?

    You're trying to rationalize with irrational people
    Well he or she IS entitled to their opinion. Did hope to hear of another solution that works. AA isn't for everybody. Be nice to pass that "other" solution on for those folks that do want to get/stay sober but not in AA.

    Guess it is easier to just slam something than offer another way.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    crazypjfan wrote:
    Fuck AA. You can either control it or you can't. Don't give me this shit that you need to talk with a room full of alky's to deal with it. BULL!

    Man, you're a real jerkoff. Its a fucking disease you cold motherfucker. I have seen a few too many people battle this and other addictions to put up with some bullshit like this. This goes for all your comments, not just this.
  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    edited July 2010
    ;);)
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    crazypjfan wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    crazypjfan wrote:
    Fuck AA. You can either control it or you can't. Don't give me this shit that you need to talk with a room full of alky's to deal with it. BULL!

    Man, you're a real jerkoff. Its a fucking disease you cold motherfucker. I have seen a few too many people battle this and other addictions to put up with some bullshit like this. This goes for all your comments, not just this.

    What comments are you talking about?

    About beating their wife. That's as low class as it comes.
  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    edited July 2010
    aaa
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