Is this unreasonable?

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  • moemoe
    moemoe Posts: 72
    scb wrote:
    moemoe wrote:
    A detention is not gonna make this book arrive in my mailbox any sooner.
    Sounds like it kind of did...
    moemoe wrote:
    As an aside, I've managed to get my hands on the book via an electronic library. She can freely use the book for two weeks until the hard copy arrives.


    Touche`!! :D
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The letter seems a little redundant but you have reason to voice your concerns.

    Your daughter should now ask for the new iPad when it comes out and she can get digital copies instantly to her device. :lol: She will be the envy of the classroom.

    Seriously though, do schools no longer provide required reading?

    Good luck with your issue.
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    Wilds wrote:
    scb wrote:
    moemoe wrote:
    A detention is not gonna make this book arrive in my mailbox any sooner.
    Sounds like it kind of did...
    moemoe wrote:
    As an aside, I've managed to get my hands on the book via an electronic library. She can freely use the book for two weeks until the hard copy arrives.

    ooooh burn. :D;)

    That wasn't my intention. I just meant to point out that maybe the teacher uses this method because it works.
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    unsung wrote:
    The letter seems a little redundant but you have reason to voice your concerns.

    Your daughter should now ask for the new iPad when it comes out and she can get digital copies instantly to her device. :lol: She will be the envy of the classroom.

    Seriously though, do schools no longer provide required reading?

    Good luck with your issue.

    Schools don't have the money to buy books for the kids. Seriously.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    That is really sad.

    No matter where you stand on the political spectrum I think quality education is something everyone agrees on.
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    unsung wrote:
    That is really sad.

    No matter where you stand on the political spectrum I think quality education is something everyone agrees on.

    What's that saying? "It will be a good day in America when schools have all the money they need and the military has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber."
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Yeah I've seen that. Not exactly the issue I'm after but here in Illinois for example the lottery system was supposed to fund education. Yet for some reason it is never enough. Instead of being able to control spending people see the influx from lottery cash as a reason to spend more.

    It isn't like the teachers are making a killing either.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Err perhaps killing isn't the right word, don't want to offend those that are sensitive. Let me use fortune instead.

    Amazing how much of a different education one receives if it is private over public.
  • moemoe
    moemoe Posts: 72
    unsung wrote:
    Err perhaps killing isn't the right word, don't want to offend those that are sensitive. Let me use fortune instead.

    Amazing how much of a different education one receives if it is private over public.


    Well, in Australian high schools ( public or private ) all text books, uniforms (Compulsory)and stationary are paid for by the parents. And even if yer kids are in a public school, the parents get to pay school fees too!! Marginal true, but fee's nonetheless. Incidentally, she goes to a private school.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    To show the teacher and school how lame they are, YOU shouldve went to the school and served her detention for her. Are you fucking kidding me America? Is this what we've come to now? Kids geting detention for no book and kids being fucken arrested for scribbling on a fucken desk? What the fuck has come to this great country of ours????? :roll: Wow, everyday I wake up and read something like this and I wonder what's the point. WTF is going on? What happened to us?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    moemoe wrote:

    No, she's in Yr 11, not 11 years old. Which I suppose is what irks me. She's not some little kid who habitually forgets to bring stuff to school or anything like that. She's an emerging adult, who through circumstance does not yet have the book. Usually, by the time kids get to the senior years of schooling, they are treated more like adults, more like people, than little kids who need to be "taught a lesson". Giving a detention may deter bad bahviour in a kid who is acting up. A detention is not gonna make this book arrive in my mailbox any sooner.

    My daughter has complained about this teacher before, and her habit of saying one thing and doing another. She's been more a witness to this womans often unreasonable demands than a recipient of them, until now.

    As an aside, I've managed to get my hands on the book via an electronic library. She can freely use the book for two weeks until the hard copy arrives.


    A couple of thoughts...might be time to let your daughter handle her own life...like getting the book and dealing with her teacher. You are starting to sound like a very overbearing parent and it's obvious that you have only heard your daughter side of the story (and every other story) and take it as 100% fact. I'm sure you love and trust your daughter but kids don't always share the whole story with their parents. ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    brandon10 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I don't know- I think I would have let my child fight their own battle on this - let her take the lunch detention
    even if a little unfair- life is unfair and that might be the valuable lesson learned here. That and be prepared.
    She may be off to college soon to handle everything on her own.


    That's the kind of attitude that lets people get away with keeping things unfair. I say teach your child to fight the power.
    exactly don't fight their battles teach them to choose their battles wisely
  • moemoe
    moemoe Posts: 72
    cincybearcat wrote:
    moemoe wrote:

    No, she's in Yr 11, not 11 years old. Which I suppose is what irks me. She's not some little kid who habitually forgets to bring stuff to school or anything like that. She's an emerging adult, who through circumstance does not yet have the book. Usually, by the time kids get to the senior years of schooling, they are treated more like adults, more like people, than little kids who need to be "taught a lesson". Giving a detention may deter bad bahviour in a kid who is acting up. A detention is not gonna make this book arrive in my mailbox any sooner.

    My daughter has complained about this teacher before, and her habit of saying one thing and doing another. She's been more a witness to this womans often unreasonable demands than a recipient of them, until now.

    As an aside, I've managed to get my hands on the book via an electronic library. She can freely use the book for two weeks until the hard copy arrives.


    A couple of thoughts...might be time to let your daughter handle her own life...like getting the book and dealing with her teacher. You are starting to sound like a very overbearing parent and it's obvious that you have only heard your daughter side of the story (and every other story) and take it as 100% fact. I'm sure you love and trust your daughter but kids don't always share the whole story with their parents. ;)

    You're right, kids don't always share the whole story. Having had two other kids go through high school before her, one of them a particularly difficult kid who raised hell through her teen years, I feel I am reasonably clued in to the antics and deceptions of teens. I could write a book about the shit my eldest daughter put us through! The child in question though, I guess you'd have to know her. She couldn't be more different from her sister if she tried. As for getting the book herself, it's not really up to her. She's a kid in high school and the parents supply the books. At 16, she's not in a position to fund her own education just yet.

    I've since heard back from the teacher. She says she's no longer considering it a "detention" and instead will call it a "study session" so that the girls who don't yet have the book can catch up on task they had to do. This is fair enough in my opinion, and I have to respect the woman for aknowledging she was a little harsh about the whole thing.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    moemoe wrote:
    At 16, she's not in a position to fund her own education just yet.


    Drama much? Equating a 16 year old having to buy a book to "funding her own education"...just a bit crazy. I'm pretty sure at 16 she has some money to buy a book.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • moemoe
    moemoe Posts: 72
    cincybearcat wrote:
    moemoe wrote:
    At 16, she's not in a position to fund her own education just yet.


    Drama much? Equating a 16 year old having to buy a book to "funding her own education"...just a bit crazy. I'm pretty sure at 16 she has some money to buy a book.


    Well no, she doesn't. Thats kind of a non issue anyway, the book has been purchased, as mentioned in the original post.......... it's yet to be delivered though.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    moemoe wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    moemoe wrote:
    At 16, she's not in a position to fund her own education just yet.


    Drama much? Equating a 16 year old having to buy a book to "funding her own education"...just a bit crazy. I'm pretty sure at 16 she has some money to buy a book.


    Well no, she doesn't. Thats kind of a non issue anyway, the book has been purchased, as mentioned in the original post.......... it's yet to be delivered though.


    The she should get a job in the summer. She must not get to do anything fun. ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • moemoe
    moemoe Posts: 72
    Well no, she doesn't. Thats kind of a non issue anyway, the book has been purchased, as mentioned in the original post.......... it's yet to be delivered though.[/quote]


    The she should get a job in the summer. She must not get to do anything fun. ;)[/quote]

    Ha, it IS summer. The question was "is this unreasonable?"....... so thanks for your input.. :D
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    moemoe wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    moemoe wrote:
    At 16, she's not in a position to fund her own education just yet.


    Drama much? Equating a 16 year old having to buy a book to "funding her own education"...just a bit crazy. I'm pretty sure at 16 she has some money to buy a book.


    Well no, she doesn't. Thats kind of a non issue anyway, the book has been purchased, as mentioned in the original post.......... it's yet to be delivered though.

    I am curious, how did all the other students manage to get their books delivered on time? If this was a case where a few students left the ordering of the book to the last minute then it couldn't be delivered on time then to me that is similar to not starting a huge homework project until the night before and then not getting it finished. For both actions I think there should be some kind of consequences.
  • moemoe
    moemoe Posts: 72
    [/quote]

    I am curious, how did all the other students manage to get their books delivered on time? If this was a case where a few students left the ordering of the book to the last minute then it couldn't be delivered on time then to me that is similar to not starting a huge homework project until the night before and then not getting it finished. For both actions I think there should be some kind of consequences.[/quote]

    The difference is it wasnt a homework project that she didn't start on time. It was my responsibility to order the books etc....

    The Australian school year starts at the end of January over here. The booklists for the following school year go out in December, usually a week or so before Christmas. With two kids in high school, and the schools using "updated" versions of the texts every second year or so, as well as different schools using different texts...... it basically breaks down to almost a grand on school books. This doesn't include stationary or uniforms, school fees etc. Right before christmas, finding a grand is not an easy thing to do.
    So anyway, this wasn't meant to be a bitch about my lack of funds, it was about a kid being given detention for something that had nothing to do with "misbehaviour" or any other thing that was within her control.

    BTW, I've never been able to figure out the quote thingy......... I just hit where it says quote and the stoopid thing screws it up........ bleh!
  • _
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    moemoe wrote:

    I am curious, how did all the other students manage to get their books delivered on time? If this was a case where a few students left the ordering of the book to the last minute then it couldn't be delivered on time then to me that is similar to not starting a huge homework project until the night before and then not getting it finished. For both actions I think there should be some kind of consequences.

    The difference is it wasnt a homework project that she didn't start on time. It was my responsibility to order the books etc....

    The Australian school year starts at the end of January over here. The booklists for the following school year go out in December, usually a week or so before Christmas. With two kids in high school, and the schools using "updated" versions of the texts every second year or so, as well as different schools using different texts...... it basically breaks down to almost a grand on school books. This doesn't include stationary or uniforms, school fees etc. Right before christmas, finding a grand is not an easy thing to do.
    So anyway, this wasn't meant to be a bitch about my lack of funds, it was about a kid being given detention for something that had nothing to do with "misbehaviour" or any other thing that was within her control.

    BTW, I've never been able to figure out the quote thingy......... I just hit where it says quote and the stoopid thing screws it up........ bleh!

    A grand on school books, not including uniforms, etc.!? Shit. :shock: When my sister and I were in school, we could barely afford the gas to get there, and we had to ask our grandparents for money to pay for our caps and gowns so we could attend graduation. I don't know how we ever would have graduated with costs like yours! That's crazy.

    Here's how the quote thingy works, but just take out the spaces I put inside the brackets:

    [ quote="WHOEVER YOU'RE QUOTING" ] QUOTED TEXT HERE. [ /quote ]

    YOUR NEW TEXT HERE.

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