talk about propaganda....

Pepe Silvia

mb262200 wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

You're an expert I take it?

you don't have to be an expert to come to that conclusion.

all they are is a violent gang who call themselves CIA. they are glorified thugs. and now they have blackwater to do their dirty work for them because apparently then, the US "technically" doesn't break international laws. such an insult. they think we are that stupid? what a crock of shit.

see no evil, hear no evil right?

So now we have people calling the CIA bigger terorists than AlQaida......unbelievable!

al qaeda was created with CIA money

g under p

mb262200 wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

[quote="OffHeGoes29

You're an expert I take it?

you don't have to be an expert to come to that conclusion.

all they are is a violent gang who call themselves CIA. they are glorified thugs. and now they have blackwater to do their dirty work for them because apparently then, the US "technically" doesn't break international laws. such an insult. they think we are that stupid? what a crock of shit.

see no evil, hear no evil right?

So now we have people calling the CIA bigger terorists than AlQaida......unbelievable!

Pepe Slyvia wrote:

al qaeda was created with CIA money

I’m singing that when the cat’s away

The mice will play

Political violence fill your city. Yeah!

Don’t involve Rasta in your say say

Rasta don’t work for no C.I.A . Rat race, rat race, rat race, yeah, rat race.



I’m saying when you think it’s peace and safety

A sudden destruction

Collective security for surety. Yeah!

Don’t forget your history. Know your destiny

In the abundance of water the fool is thirsty

Rat race, rat race, rat race, rat race.

Oh it’s a disgrace to see the human race

In a rat race, rat race.



Very deep and hard hitting lyrics from Bob Marley at a time when Jamaica’s political scene was one filled with uncertainty, chaos and blood letting violence.

The United States Central Intelligence Agency,CIA, was rumored to have aligned themselves to one of Jamaica’s political parties in an attempt to cut down what were seen as Communist elements operating within and aspiring to run the country. Marley constantly criticized this involvement and was said to have placed Bob Marley on the CIA black list for his very critical lyrics.

Bob Marley’s use of proverbs and Jamaican folklore is displayed yet again in Rat Race ‘when the cats away the mice will play’, ‘in abundance of water the fool is thirsty’. Here Marley with his ageless wisdom advocates a kind of xenophobia when it comes to foreign interference in domestic affairs that is most times driven by a hidden agenda.

The CIA for years has infiltrated it's power and influence in many less power countries for years and has far more damage to those countries that anything al Queda has done to date.

Peace

gimmesometruth27

mb262200 wrote:

So now we have people calling the CIA bigger terorists than AlQaida......unbelievable!

that is exactly what i am saying. i have been saying it for years. covert operations, assassinations, coup de etats, toppling governments and intalling those that cater to our agenda is nothing more than state sponsored terrorism.

OnTheEdge

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

So now we have people calling the CIA bigger terorists than AlQaida......unbelievable!

that is exactly what i am saying. i have been saying it for years. covert operations, assassinations, coup de etats, toppling governments and intalling those that cater to our agenda is nothing more than state sponsored terrorism.

well when the cia starts blowing themselves up and rewards themselves by how many innocent victims they have killed let me know ok.

gimmesometruth27

mb262200 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

So now we have people calling the CIA bigger terorists than AlQaida......unbelievable!

that is exactly what i am saying. i have been saying it for years. covert operations, assassinations, coup de etats, toppling governments and intalling those that cater to our agenda is nothing more than state sponsored terrorism.

well when the cia starts blowing themselves up and rewards themselves by how many innocent victims they have killed let me know ok.

you are aware that there are other types of terrorism than suicude bombing right? if you did you would not have said what you just said...

Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
--FBI Definition

http://www.angelfire.com/ca7/Security/Terrordef.html

OnTheEdge

I am not questioning what terorism is. I am questioning that the American Central Intelligence Agency is the worst terorist organization in the world. That is what you people called it.

polaris_x

mb262200 wrote:

well when the cia starts blowing themselves up and rewards themselves by how many innocent victims they have killed let me know ok.

i would say this is indisputable ... whether you want to consider aresenal available to them, deaths, lives altered ... it's for sure the cia ...

from central america to south america to africa to southeast asia ... someone has to do the dirty work that allows america to be imperialists ...

gimmesometruth27

polaris_x wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

well when the cia starts blowing themselves up and rewards themselves by how many innocent victims they have killed let me know ok.

i would say this is indisputable ... whether you want to consider aresenal available to them, deaths, lives altered ... it's for sure the cia ...

from central america to south america to africa to southeast asia ... someone has to do the dirty work that allows america to be imperialists ...

+1 polaris, and don't forget about the middle east and the secret black site prisons that the cia has around the world...

Pepe Silvia

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

well when the cia starts blowing themselves up and rewards themselves by how many innocent victims they have killed let me know ok.

i would say this is indisputable ... whether you want to consider aresenal available to them, deaths, lives altered ... it's for sure the cia ...

from central america to south america to africa to southeast asia ... someone has to do the dirty work that allows america to be imperialists ...

+1 polaris, and don't forget about the middle east and the secret black site prisons that the cia has around the world...

or that they have admitted to performing experiments on unknowing US and Canadian citizens in the past...

also, look at bin laden's timeline, before al qaeda he was in another group who we and other countries supported during the soviet invasion in Afghanistan, his work then was setting up training camps, moving supplies and men in and out....then he split from that group and created al qaeda while receving funding from us and other countries, so in a way we helped fund and create al qaeda

he still stands

WHO is going to police the secret police? and who will police them? It is an endless cycle of us watching them. Ooooh the paranoia!

open up your books, boys. Let's see what you've been planning and who you've been killing.

No more secrets in government... it is an endless road of murder and paranoia.

Pepe Silvia

from the library of congress' website
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r103:S14JN4-38:

"What we now know, and the U.S. Army has confirmed, is that it sprayed zinc cadmium sulfide over Minneapolis in 1953, a chemical which is a potential carcinogen."

"I cannot answer Minnesotans and other citizens when they ask me why this spraying took place. Presumably, it was to determine how chemicals used in biological warfare would penetrate various structures in different neighborhoods. But I can tell you this, whether it be Minneapolis or Rosemount or the Chippewa National Forest, or other communities in other States, the Department of Defense and the Army owe the people full disclosure."

this included spraying clinton elementary school (feel free to do more searches) so they could observe the long term effects

also an official army site on the secret biological experiments...watered down but proves they happened
https://ccc.apgea.army.mil/sarea/produc ... ter_19.htm

The biological warfare research program in the early 1940s and 1950s involved antipersonnel, anticrop, and, for a brief period, antianimal studies.8 Field trials included open-air vulnerability testing, and contamination of public water systems with live organisms such as Serratia marcescens. Covert programs were conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency. Pathogenic organisms were also tested in Florida and the Bahamas in the 1940s. Chemical anticrop studies evaluated defoliation and crop destruction. Explosive munitions tests with pathogens were begun in 1949.

In 1950, the first open-air tests with biological simulants were conducted in various locales, one of which was off the coast of Norfolk, Virginia. This was followed by limited zinc cadmium sulfide dispersal tests in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and St. Louis, Missouri, in 1953; and Bacillus subtilis var niger dispersal in the New York City subway system in 1966.3,4 The Special Operations Division at Camp Detrick conducted much of the research on possible methods of covert attack and sabotage, and many environmental studiesoften without informing local or state governmental agencies or the general population.

The first large-scale aerosol vulnerability test was conducted in the San Francisco Bay area in September 1950, using two species of bacteria (Bacillus globigii and Serratia marcescens) and fluorescent particles. Various Bacillus species were used in many experiments because of their spore-forming capabilities and their similarities to Bacillus anthracis. S marcescens was used because its red pigment made it readily identifiable. What was unexpected was the increased number of cases of Serratia infections over the next few years in communities that had been sprayed earlier with the organisms.4 The military considered the situations coincidental, but many civilian physicians believed them to be directly related. Other limited-scale field tests with pathogenic organisms were conducted at Dugway Proving Ground, Utah. Antianimal studies were conducted at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/11/us/mi ... sec=health

Minneapolis Called Toxic Test Site in '53
Published: June 11, 1994

In a 1953 cold war experiment, the Army sprayed clouds of toxic material over Minneapolis dozens of times and may have caused miscarriages and stillbirths, a public television station here has reported.

The sprayings in Minneapolis and other cities were described then as part of an effort to develop an aerosol screen to protect Americans from fallout in case of an atomic attack, according to the report on Wednesday night by KTCA.

The material sprayed in Minneapolis was zinc cadmium sulfide, a suspected carcinogen, and the Army was actually testing how chemicals would disperse during biological warfare, the station reported.

One of the sites sprayed in Minneapolis was a public elementary school where former students have reported an unusual number of stillbirths and miscarriages, the report said.

Senator Paul Wellstone, a Minnesota Democrat, issued a statement saying the Government "must be held accountable to their citizens for its actions" and promised to assist constituents who might have been injured.

In its report, the station quoted experts as saying zinc cadmium sulfide was toxic and might cause cancer. It said it was sprayed 61 times in four parts of Minneapolis, from generators in the rear of trucks or from rooftops.

One former student of the sprayed school told the station that of her three children, one had Down syndrome, another was profoundly retarded and a third had a learning disability.

g under p

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

well when the cia starts blowing themselves up and rewards themselves by how many innocent victims they have killed let me know ok.

i would say this is indisputable ... whether you want to consider aresenal available to them, deaths, lives altered ... it's for sure the cia ...

from central america to south america to africa to southeast asia ... someone has to do the dirty work that allows america to be imperialists ...

+1 polaris, and don't forget about the middle east and the secret black site prisons that the cia has around the world...

Let's also mention the CIA's power and influence on the USA's world of Economic Hit Men. Noted from the book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man by John Perkins Most outside of the US know that there's no doubt that the death of Panama's Omar Torrijo at age 52 was just one more in a series of CIA assassinations. This is real and this IS the CIA.

Peace

polaris_x

the question is how do we bridge the gap?

this information with regards to the CIA is accepted FACT - yet, people on this board and the general public are astounded when someone says the CIA is the biggest terrorist organization ... ????

most will read what we wrote and just write us off as kooks ... how do we bridge this gap?

g under p

polaris_x wrote:

the question is how do we bridge the gap?

this information with regards to the CIA is accepted FACT - yet, people on this board and the general public are astounded when someone says the CIA is the biggest terrorist organization ... ????

most will read what we wrote and just write us off as kooks ... how do we bridge this gap?

True, that's a very good question how do we bridge that gap? I worked and took care of a man worked in the "State Dept" he says, even at age 82 he was STILL discreet in what he would say. He worked mainly in then USSR central Europe and in conjunction with the CIA. He would only speak in generalizations but he just tell us (his nurses) you would be amazed at the lengths the CIA and the State Dept would do to other governments in the BEST interest of the USA. Then do so under a guise without most of it's citizens ever having a clue what their true goals were.

The interesting thing there many think the CIA isn't capable of doing such terroristic destruction to other countries but we do far more. I honestly don't think we can bridge that gap many of us just follow along like mindless sheep. Yet our government never hesitate to call out other countries and leaders for their improprieties.

Peace