1. I type as I think. If I do not find the return key, may be cuz' I skipped typing class.
2 Here is just a short list you can start with. Please send $ as you are obviously too damn lazy to do your own work. Seems to me you managed quite well in group projects as the others were able to pull you thru. (no insult, observation!)
2 1/2. I have included pro's to vaccincation and cons. Also info on public health, as that is what this issue is about, correct? I like to read both sides as then I am prepared to understand the entirety of the issue. I tend to step carefully where my understanding is limited and biased based on personal convictions. (Just where do we develop our convictions from....past expereince? Ojective science? Myths? Family? GOD?)
JAMA 1992:267(3)392-396 (first part, is the journal, 2nd year published, third vlume, followed by pages #'s)
JAMA 1994: 271(20) 1602-1605
Pediatric Infectious Dis 1983: 2(1) 7-11
Neurology 1982 (32) 4
Journal of Pediatrics 1997: 131(4) 529-535
Cochrane Database Syst Review 2005;(4)CD004407
Lancet 1988 351:1327-1328
Journal Infectious Dis 1994; 169(1)77-82
Pediatrics 2000; 106:1307-1317
3.If these are not sufficient sources, oh please let me know, for I have so much extra time to take care of those that can't do for themselves that those of us who do, seem to manage quite well.
4.Good luck with the reading and may you find the anwers that you so desparately desire.
NBER Digest, March 2002 “Why do death rates decline?”
J of Allergy Clinical Immunology 2006:118(4)938-9415.
5. oops! I made another mistake. Please remind me again.
Most parents have seen their child take the downward spiral from 18 to 24 months. I do worry about my second child not being fully vaccinated, but knowing he won't be autistic out weighs all this. As with any mental disabilty, it fucks up your life, can destroy your marriage(which it did mine), plus it makes you never want to have children again.
Pearl Jam is one of the positives in life.
Here's a purely hypothetical and probably unfair question, and I wouldn't wish either of these fates on anyone's children:
Would you rather have an autistic, vaccinated child who lives a long life or a "normal," unvaccinated child who dies young from a preventable (by vaccine) illness?
Most parents have seen their child take the downward spiral from 18 to 24 months. I do worry about my second child not being fully vaccinated, but knowing he won't be autistic out weighs all this. As with any mental disabilty, it fucks up your life, can destroy your marriage(which it did mine), plus it makes you never want to have children again.
Pearl Jam is one of the positives in life.
Here's a purely hypothetical and probably unfair question, and I wouldn't wish either of these fates on anyone's children:
Would you rather have an autistic, vaccinated child who lives a long life or a "normal," unvaccinated child who dies young from a preventable (by vaccine) illness?
Just wondering.
scb...no parent could ever answer this question.
And yet they answer it every day when they make these decisions (if they actually believe vaccines cause autism, that is).
Here's a purely hypothetical and probably unfair question, and I wouldn't wish either of these fates on anyone's children:
Would you rather have an autistic, vaccinated child who lives a long life or a "normal," unvaccinated child who dies young from a preventable (by vaccine) illness?
Just wondering.
scb...no parent could ever answer this question.
And yet they answer it every day when they make these decisions (if they actually believe vaccines cause autism, that is).
No they aren't answering it when they make these decisions as you have no guarantee that if you get your child vaccinated they will automatically become autistic and also automatically live a long life. And you certainly are not ensuring your child a young death if you choose not to get them vaccinated.
And yet they answer it every day when they make these decisions (if they actually believe vaccines cause autism, that is).
No they aren't answering it when they make these decisions as you have no guarantee that if you get your child vaccinated they will automatically become autistic and also automatically live a long life. And you certainly are not ensuring your child a young death if you choose not to get them vaccinated.
Okay, they're answering which risk they'd rather take. Better?
And yet they answer it every day when they make these decisions (if they actually believe vaccines cause autism, that is).
If they believe vaccinations will certainly cause autism it's an easy choice...no vaccination.
How could ANYONE believe that vaccination will certainly cause autism?? If that were the case, ALL children who were vaccinated would be autistic.... which, of course, is not the case.
And yet they answer it every day when they make these decisions (if they actually believe vaccines cause autism, that is).
If they believe vaccinations will certainly cause autism it's an easy choice...no vaccination.
How could ANYONE believe that vaccination will certainly cause autism?? If that were the case, ALL children who were vaccinated would be autistic.... which, of course, is not the case.
We stopped vaccinations on my 2nd child at 7-9 months. My kids are 2 years apart in age. So all our research and fact finding was fresh on our minds as our 1st child was already diagnosed. Everything lead us to the MMR shot. I'm not saying that the MMR shot causes Autism, but it's got a mean streak with a child who has an unknowingly weak immune system. I don't rule out that my children have something planted in them from my ex wife and myself. She has a son from another marriage that is perfectly normal. Am I willing to take that chance, probably not with someone else? Probably not. What if my next wife has the same ingredient as my last one. My hope would be that research finds out what it is, so Parents can be tested and know the risks.
Things that should be done:
1. Test infants for immune system deficiencies
2. If they have the above, don't pressure the parent into getting 3 shots in 1. Think about how fragile a baby is in the 1st couple years of life. Pump them up with the MMR and some can't handle it, and like I said before, the doctors don't care and wash their hands clean of any bad results.
In the end, the MMR shot may not be the direct cause, but clearly puts stress on the child, which activates the Autism.
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2 Here is just a short list you can start with. Please send $ as you are obviously too damn lazy to do your own work. Seems to me you managed quite well in group projects as the others were able to pull you thru. (no insult, observation!)
2 1/2. I have included pro's to vaccincation and cons. Also info on public health, as that is what this issue is about, correct? I like to read both sides as then I am prepared to understand the entirety of the issue. I tend to step carefully where my understanding is limited and biased based on personal convictions. (Just where do we develop our convictions from....past expereince? Ojective science? Myths? Family? GOD?)
JAMA 1992:267(3)392-396 (first part, is the journal, 2nd year published, third vlume, followed by pages #'s)
JAMA 1994: 271(20) 1602-1605
Pediatric Infectious Dis 1983: 2(1) 7-11
Neurology 1982 (32) 4
Journal of Pediatrics 1997: 131(4) 529-535
Cochrane Database Syst Review 2005;(4)CD004407
Lancet 1988 351:1327-1328
Journal Infectious Dis 1994; 169(1)77-82
Pediatrics 2000; 106:1307-1317
3.If these are not sufficient sources, oh please let me know, for I have so much extra time to take care of those that can't do for themselves that those of us who do, seem to manage quite well.
4.Good luck with the reading and may you find the anwers that you so desparately desire.
NBER Digest, March 2002 “Why do death rates decline?”
J of Allergy Clinical Immunology 2006:118(4)938-9415.
5. oops! I made another mistake. Please remind me again.
Peace
scb...no parent could ever answer this question.
And yet they answer it every day when they make these decisions (if they actually believe vaccines cause autism, that is).
No they aren't answering it when they make these decisions as you have no guarantee that if you get your child vaccinated they will automatically become autistic and also automatically live a long life. And you certainly are not ensuring your child a young death if you choose not to get them vaccinated.
If they believe vaccinations will certainly cause autism it's an easy choice...no vaccination.
Okay, they're answering which risk they'd rather take. Better?
How could ANYONE believe that vaccination will certainly cause autism?? If that were the case, ALL children who were vaccinated would be autistic.... which, of course, is not the case.
Look at LondonBridge's last post.
We stopped vaccinations on my 2nd child at 7-9 months. My kids are 2 years apart in age. So all our research and fact finding was fresh on our minds as our 1st child was already diagnosed. Everything lead us to the MMR shot. I'm not saying that the MMR shot causes Autism, but it's got a mean streak with a child who has an unknowingly weak immune system. I don't rule out that my children have something planted in them from my ex wife and myself. She has a son from another marriage that is perfectly normal. Am I willing to take that chance, probably not with someone else? Probably not. What if my next wife has the same ingredient as my last one. My hope would be that research finds out what it is, so Parents can be tested and know the risks.
Things that should be done:
1. Test infants for immune system deficiencies
2. If they have the above, don't pressure the parent into getting 3 shots in 1. Think about how fragile a baby is in the 1st couple years of life. Pump them up with the MMR and some can't handle it, and like I said before, the doctors don't care and wash their hands clean of any bad results.
In the end, the MMR shot may not be the direct cause, but clearly puts stress on the child, which activates the Autism.