Ok, I'm gonna play a little devil's advocate on this thread.
I saw The Who play Quadrophenia 3 times in a short period in the 90's. The 3rd time, I swear they didn't advertise it as a performance of this album - I thought it was gonna be a more typical performance. Ok, you're saying, what's the problem here?
Well, I'm sorry, but I really don't think it's all that good of an album. Starts great with The Real Me, ends great with LROM, and one more great song with 5:15. Everything else is kind of mediocre. Sorry folks, that's just the way I feel. IMO, this album falls to the old "Double Album" syndrome - not enough to fill it up.
Now, if they were to play Who's Next, well, then I might fly to the UK for it! (Ok, probably not)
P.S. - I am no longer criticizing them for playing as The Who, now that I found out it's designed to have royalties paid to the Moon & Entwistle estates.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Ok, I'm gonna play a little devil's advocate on this thread.
I saw The Who play Quadrophenia 3 times in a short period in the 90's. The 3rd time, I swear they didn't advertise it as a performance of this album - I thought it was gonna be a more typical performance. Ok, you're saying, what's the problem here?
Well, I'm sorry, but I really don't think it's all that good of an album. Starts great with The Real Me, ends great with LROM, and one more great song with 5:15. Everything else is kind of mediocre. Sorry folks, that's just the way I feel. IMO, this album falls to the old "Double Album" syndrome - not enough to fill it up.
Now, if they were to play Who's Next, well, then I might fly to the UK for it! (Ok, probably not)
P.S. - I am no longer criticizing them for playing as The Who, now that I found out it's designed to have royalties paid to the Moon & Entwistle estates.
yeah i'd agree, i like dirty jobs too, its a good album but gets quite a lot of hype imo. Who's Next is a fucking incredible album, would love to know how real big who fans rate this amongst their 'best' stuff.
Plus some decent album tracks... ok it's no Next but it's the sum of the parts...obviously not for everyone though!!
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Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
Katowice, Wembley 07
SBE, Manchester, O2 09
Hyde Park 10
Manchester 1&2 12
This is just g'bye for now...
Plus some decent album tracks... ok it's no Next but it's the sum of the parts...obviously not for everyone though!!
You're forgetting Cut My Hair, Sea and Sand, and the outstanding Punk and the Godfather. The last 2 in particular are just killer live.
And to answer Brisk's question, of course real big Who fans think Who's Next is their tightest, best produced album with not a single weak track. If I were stuck on a desert island with only one album, that would be the one. My ring tone is Baba O'Riley. But I still have a special love for Quad.
I'm a big who fan and I think Who's Next is an all around better album that Quadrophenia. However, I feel that The Real Me and LROM are better than anything on Who's Next. Maybe that doesn't make any sense
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-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
Plus some decent album tracks... ok it's no Next but it's the sum of the parts...obviously not for everyone though!!
You're forgetting Cut My Hair, Sea and Sand, and the outstanding Punk and the Godfather. The last 2 in particular are just killer live.
And to answer Brisk's question, of course real big Who fans think Who's Next is their tightest, best produced album with not a single weak track. If I were stuck on a desert island with only one album, that would be the one. My ring tone is Baba O'Riley. But I still have a special love for Quad.
Agreed I like all the one's you mention and I'd put Doctor Jimmy in that group too, just (and it's only my preference ) rate the others that little bit higher...
Astoria Crew
Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
Katowice, Wembley 07
SBE, Manchester, O2 09
Hyde Park 10
Manchester 1&2 12
This is just g'bye for now...
Ok, I'm gonna play a little devil's advocate on this thread.
I saw The Who play Quadrophenia 3 times in a short period in the 90's. The 3rd time, I swear they didn't advertise it as a performance of this album - I thought it was gonna be a more typical performance. Ok, you're saying, what's the problem here?
Well, I'm sorry, but I really don't think it's all that good of an album. Starts great with The Real Me, ends great with LROM, and one more great song with 5:15. Everything else is kind of mediocre. Sorry folks, that's just the way I feel. IMO, this album falls to the old "Double Album" syndrome - not enough to fill it up.
Now, if they were to play Who's Next, well, then I might fly to the UK for it! (Ok, probably not)
P.S. - I am no longer criticizing them for playing as The Who, now that I found out it's designed to have royalties paid to the Moon & Entwistle estates.
Ok. Well the reason that the entire album isn't full of hit singles is because it is a rock opera. With a need to tell a pretty complicated story.
I find that Quadrophenia is the perfect blend of all "singles" (Who's Next) and too many songs that aren't great songs, but just tell the story (Tommy). Quad can still be played on its on, without the storyline, and be great. Then add the brilliant storyline and you have an unbeatable album.
And your other point. Glad you've come around! Although my thoughts have always been that The Who is Pete's band. The songs are Pete's intellectual property (both in practice and in law). As long as Pete wants to call a band The Who... then they are The Who. For an example, when the "other" member of Creedence Clearwater Revival wanted to tour with that name, it was ruled that they could not, because John Fogerty WAS CCR, and the band and songs were his intellectual property.
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And I am supremely jealous of anyone who gets to see this show. I would kill a small child to see it. Hopefully some people get to see it and let us know how it was.
All the rusted signs, we ignore throughout our lives, choosing the shiny ones instead...
And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
Quadrophenia on vinyl was the first taste of music I had as a human being and its the only piece of music that I still can make me be blown away. I wish I had the money to see this. I'm sure a dvd/cd combo will be made of this.
Btw- live at royal albert hall is a great live cd/dvd. A must have for everyone.
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I think I have to give Quad a fresh listen - it's been quite a while. (probably since that 3rd time I heard it live!) I agree that LROM is better than anything on Who's Next - not sure about The Real Me however. Also, I don't know if I'm stupid or just don't understand the references, but I really can't follow the story in that album. :? Maybe I need to see the movie. Is it worth watching?
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
I think I have to give Quad a fresh listen - it's been quite a while. (probably since that 3rd time I heard it live!) I agree that LROM is better than anything on Who's Next - not sure about The Real Me however. Also, I don't know if I'm stupid or just don't understand the references, but I really can't follow the story in that album. :? Maybe I need to see the movie. Is it worth watching?
even i dont get it and im from england, was just teen culture in london in the 60s i believe.
I think I have to give Quad a fresh listen - it's been quite a while. (probably since that 3rd time I heard it live!) I agree that LROM is better than anything on Who's Next - not sure about The Real Me however. Also, I don't know if I'm stupid or just don't understand the references, but I really can't follow the story in that album. :? Maybe I need to see the movie. Is it worth watching?
even i dont get it and im from england, was just teen culture in london in the 60s i believe.
Thanks, now I feel better. The Punk & the Godfather - what the hell is going on???
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
I think I have to give Quad a fresh listen - it's been quite a while. (probably since that 3rd time I heard it live!) I agree that LROM is better than anything on Who's Next - not sure about The Real Me however. Also, I don't know if I'm stupid or just don't understand the references, but I really can't follow the story in that album. :? Maybe I need to see the movie. Is it worth watching?
the movie ties it all together. it gives you a much better insight to what happened back then. the thing i dig most about quad is that it was REAL life. the mods existed, as did the rockers. they battled, they partied, and they listen to the who(among others). for me it's about the struggles of youth and the power of music. music and growing up as a teenager are linked at the hip, it's hard to separate them. the who was the mod's background music in life. it don't get anymore real than that. true story.
sure, give who's next deserved credit, but from the opening shot of the movie/album(the sea) to the final end scene/tune of the movie/record quad is a masterpiece. it has never been topped, imo.
I think I have to give Quad a fresh listen - it's been quite a while. (probably since that 3rd time I heard it live!) I agree that LROM is better than anything on Who's Next - not sure about The Real Me however. Also, I don't know if I'm stupid or just don't understand the references, but I really can't follow the story in that album. :? Maybe I need to see the movie. Is it worth watching?
Quadrophenia isn't really meant to be completely understood on it's own. It is more like a soundtrack to a musical or something. Without the commentary to provide an outline, it is pretty difficult to understand. If you have the physical album, Pete has a short story that he wrote in the liner notes that helps explain the plot.
All the rusted signs, we ignore throughout our lives, choosing the shiny ones instead...
And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
Yeah I am. I was already going to be in the UK anyway (visiting family in Cardiff), and by luck, this show was announced slap bang right in the middle of my month long stay
Grabbed me a 200 pound VIP ticket during the pre-sale and can't wait to see this show
Eddie just sang I'm One w/ the WHO and there are pictures all over the WHO'S site!
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I don't know how? Sorry, but if you go to the Porch there is a picture in there. By tonite there will be pictures all over the internet!
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I saw The Who play Quadrophenia 3 times in a short period in the 90's. The 3rd time, I swear they didn't advertise it as a performance of this album - I thought it was gonna be a more typical performance. Ok, you're saying, what's the problem here?
Well, I'm sorry, but I really don't think it's all that good of an album. Starts great with The Real Me, ends great with LROM, and one more great song with 5:15. Everything else is kind of mediocre. Sorry folks, that's just the way I feel. IMO, this album falls to the old "Double Album" syndrome - not enough to fill it up.
Now, if they were to play Who's Next, well, then I might fly to the UK for it! (Ok, probably not)
P.S. - I am no longer criticizing them for playing as The Who, now that I found out it's designed to have royalties paid to the Moon & Entwistle estates.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
yeah i'd agree, i like dirty jobs too, its a good album but gets quite a lot of hype imo. Who's Next is a fucking incredible album, would love to know how real big who fans rate this amongst their 'best' stuff.
Real Me, I'm One, 5:15, Drowned, Love Reign...
Plus some decent album tracks... ok it's no Next but it's the sum of the parts...obviously not for everyone though!!
Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
Katowice, Wembley 07
SBE, Manchester, O2 09
Hyde Park 10
Manchester 1&2 12
This is just g'bye for now...
And to answer Brisk's question, of course real big Who fans think Who's Next is their tightest, best produced album with not a single weak track. If I were stuck on a desert island with only one album, that would be the one. My ring tone is Baba O'Riley. But I still have a special love for Quad.
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
Agreed I like all the one's you mention and I'd put Doctor Jimmy in that group too, just (and it's only my preference
Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
Katowice, Wembley 07
SBE, Manchester, O2 09
Hyde Park 10
Manchester 1&2 12
This is just g'bye for now...
Ok. Well the reason that the entire album isn't full of hit singles is because it is a rock opera. With a need to tell a pretty complicated story.
I find that Quadrophenia is the perfect blend of all "singles" (Who's Next) and too many songs that aren't great songs, but just tell the story (Tommy). Quad can still be played on its on, without the storyline, and be great. Then add the brilliant storyline and you have an unbeatable album.
And your other point. Glad you've come around! Although my thoughts have always been that The Who is Pete's band. The songs are Pete's intellectual property (both in practice and in law). As long as Pete wants to call a band The Who... then they are The Who. For an example, when the "other" member of Creedence Clearwater Revival wanted to tour with that name, it was ruled that they could not, because John Fogerty WAS CCR, and the band and songs were his intellectual property.
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And I am supremely jealous of anyone who gets to see this show. I would kill a small child to see it. Hopefully some people get to see it and let us know how it was.
And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
Btw- live at royal albert hall is a great live cd/dvd. A must have for everyone.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
even i dont get it and im from england, was just teen culture in london in the 60s i believe.
Thanks, now I feel better. The Punk & the Godfather - what the hell is going on???
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
the movie ties it all together. it gives you a much better insight to what happened back then. the thing i dig most about quad is that it was REAL life. the mods existed, as did the rockers. they battled, they partied, and they listen to the who(among others). for me it's about the struggles of youth and the power of music. music and growing up as a teenager are linked at the hip, it's hard to separate them. the who was the mod's background music in life. it don't get anymore real than that. true story.
sure, give who's next deserved credit, but from the opening shot of the movie/album(the sea) to the final end scene/tune of the movie/record quad is a masterpiece. it has never been topped, imo.
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Quadrophenia isn't really meant to be completely understood on it's own. It is more like a soundtrack to a musical or something. Without the commentary to provide an outline, it is pretty difficult to understand. If you have the physical album, Pete has a short story that he wrote in the liner notes that helps explain the plot.
And he who forgets, will be destined to remember...
Yeah I am. I was already going to be in the UK anyway (visiting family in Cardiff), and by luck, this show was announced slap bang right in the middle of my month long stay
Grabbed me a 200 pound VIP ticket during the pre-sale and can't wait to see this show
please report back in. i'd be curious if they stage it like the 1996/1997 tour
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ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
Can you put some of the pictures up here?
SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
How about a link to the area of the site that has photos of this?
btw - I think we can now officially get this thread moved to The Porch!
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*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
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