Petition for "Free Kittens" (a sequel to Lost Dogs)

pleathermanpleatherman Posts: 472
edited February 2010 in The Porch
Chances are an average of 40 songs are written for every record. Almost half of those reach the finish line. Some are held over for the next album. But a lot of them fall by the wayside due to a constant influx of new material brought into the fold. The traditional method of adding an unreleased b-side to a single is fast becoming obsolete in the ever-changing landscape of the music industry. This leaves pearl jam with the potential to take adavantage of the internet in a more innovative fashion than they have before.
Now, what I'm about to state takes a cue from the welcome letter Eddie wrote to coincide with the launch of pearljam.com. This is, what I think, the best way to unload the surplus of songs they've accumulated over the years. And here's how it would work. All Ten Club members would be offered a special password, like a key, to gain acces to a restricted part of the website. This webpage would be a 360-degree virtual tour of the vault; similar to the one pictured on the inside cover of Lost Dogs. By clicking on various labelled tape reels stacked on the shelves, we would have the ability to download its contents: Consisting of original solo demos, interesting alternate takes, and for the main entree- a nice helping of unreleased b-sides! The best part is it's all free of charge!! Think of it as a grand gesture to thank fans for 20 years of devotion. Not that we are entitled to anything this "big, bold, and free" (remember that one) and have no right to demand it. But I'm sure the band is always welcome to our suggestions. :D
What do you guys think? Is it too far fetched? Would the band go for it? Would you be happier if the free content were, instead, bootlegs? I figure if pearl jam honors a request to play Bugs, this petition may actually stand a chance!
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  • Paddy's Pub: Home of the original Kitten mittons
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  • lol great title
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  • I think its a great idea, and I don't think that the boys would downright turn it down. Its worth a shot, it could be like a SUPER gremmie.net!
  • Paddy's Pub: Home of the original Kitten mittons

    I agree with this title
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  • I don't think I would like me children entering "free kittens" into the google search engine
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Posts: 15,056
    sign me up :thumbup:
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Purr- fect title and maybe they can use some of the PJ with cat photos in a little cd booklet
  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    Kittens are for chicks, Pearl Jam do not not own cats, nor do they have lap dogs I think, I have to go back into my cave now.
  • this is a very similar idea to what Incubus did for their greatest hits double cd. If you bought the physical product, you got a password to their vault with a whole bunch of unreleased goodies; songs, pictures, videos, etc.

    They could also do something similar to Radiohead and NIN (pay what you want), with all proceeds going to the Red Cross or the Wishlist Foundation, what have you.
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  • and I prefer the name Stray Cats (which is what I called the compilation I made of all the tracks left off LD). :)
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    Third one will be: "LAWNMOWER FOR SALE - Low usage"
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  • wasnt one of kim gordon's (frm sonic youth) side projects called free kitten? nothing to do w op... just reminded me of kim gordon :)
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  • ridleyridley Posts: 164
    and I prefer the name Stray Cats (which is what I called the compilation I made of all the tracks left off LD). :)

    Love that name! (I called mine 'Forgotten Dogs').

    Did you make artwork for this compilation and if so care to share? ;)
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  • This is an idea with great merit! "Stray Cats" -- I really think you're on to something there!

    Still lots of songs left that didn't make "Lost Dogs". (I never could figure out why Long Road wasn't on there, but Whale Song was). And then there's Angel, Crazy Mary, Santa Cruz, Love Reign O'er Me, Soldier of Love, Out of My Mind, etc.

    I also like the idea of paying for the songs we want from the "Vault", say 99 cents apiece ... After all, the band already gives us our annual X-mas single for free (ok with memebership, but that's the same as what's proposed here) so let's not get too green diseased. PJ should be appropriately comped for their art.
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  • This is an idea with great merit! "Stray Cats" -- I really think you're on to something there!

    Still lots of songs left that didn't make "Lost Dogs". (I never could figure out why Long Road wasn't on there, but Whale Song was). And then there's Angel, Crazy Mary, Santa Cruz, Love Reign O'er Me, Soldier of Love, Out of My Mind, etc.

    I also like the idea of paying for the songs we want from the "Vault", say 99 cents apiece ... After all, the band already gives us our annual X-mas single for free (ok with memebership, but that's the same as what's proposed here) so let's not get too green diseased. PJ should be appropriately comped for their art.

    Long Road & I Got Id are on Merkinball. They're not really b-sides. Of course, I don't know if it's easy to get those nowadays - never saw anyone auctioning off their Merkinball CD's on here.

    Yea, I don't see why the band would give away the Stray Cats for free either. Maybe they can make them available to the 10C before the general public???
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  • jester59388jester59388 Posts: 150
    edited February 2010
    I do have Merkinball, so I do have "Long Road" for my listening pleasure - I just thought that since Merkinball was basically a 2-song EP that is probably hard to find now, it wasn't much different than the Christmas single songs that got included. I Got Id made Rearviewmirror but Long Road is nowhere but Merkinball. I also thought it kinda odd that Last Kiss and YLB would be both RVM and on Lost Dogs when there were others that could have been included instead and found their way to a wider audience than us fanatic P-Jammers on here.
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  • BanjoBanjo Posts: 272
    I think its a great idea but I don't know if it would be possible to do it for free. Maybe they could charge per song like itunes and you get a certain amount of credit based on seniority in 10c. One free download per year of membership or something like that.
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,240
    Haha, I think we're caring about the title a little to much, but this would be amazing! But I don't see anything wrong with just doing it like they did lost dogs either.
  • pleathermanpleatherman Posts: 472
    edited February 2010
    Reading over all your suggestions or misgivings, I would like to offer some revisions and, in other cases, explanations to my original proposal. First let me clarify about the title. It was more tongue-in-cheek than anything. Bearing in mind how Eddie felt about the more cutesy posters from his commentary in the Ames Book, the band probably would not actually consider naming it "Free Kittens". As someone suggested in this thread, "Stray Cats" is a more reasonable fit (even if I can't help but associate it with Brian Setzer and co.). Now that that's out of the way, I will get to what really matters- the music.

    Like many of us, I couldn't help but try and decipher what was meant when the Ten Club stated the plan for something "big, bold, and free" prior to the release of Avocado. What grew from such musings eventually became the first post of this thread. I thought, what else could be bigger and bolder than this "Free Kittens" idea. From a business standpoint, it made sense since these songs were already sitting around. Don't get me wrong, I value music greatly. I would not hesitate to pay for an album I enjoy, especially when an artist puts their heart and soul into its creation. This was just my ideal version of the “big, bold, and free” that never was.

    Now, I assume many of the unreleased songs not found on Lost Dogs will be used on the reissues or the still in-progress EP. What's leftover after that may not be enough for another odds-an-ends album until somewhere down the line when they restock the shelves, so to speak. Meanwhile, there is still a bundle of miscellaneous material gathering dust. The types of music I’m referring to are original demos (Ed’s 'Speed of Sound', Stone’s 'No Way', Mike’s 'Inside Job', Matt’s 'Get Right', Jeff’s 'God's Dice', etc.), unfinished numbers (Anything in Between), instrumental beds (the ones from Vs. Ed never got around to adding vocals), and alternate versions (100 Pacer)*. All together, if released in a standard fashion, it would suffer by comparison to Lost Dogs. Besides, the band might not feel comfortable charging its fans for material of this sort. Inversely, a lot of fans would accuse pearl jam of scraping the bottom of the barrel or trying to make a quick buck. However, the internet is perfectly suited to handle songs stuck in such a purgatory: Not up to par for commercial release on their own, and yet still holds a degree of interest to the diehard fans. It could be like uncovering some cool artifacts at an archaeological dig. While we’re at it, why not add a few unreleased b-sides to elevate how “big and bold” it can be!

    *I’m using examples of songs we’ve mostly heard, for clarity’s sake.
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  • I'd love to hear some of the stuff they have tucked away. In particular, I've always wanted to hear early takes and/or demos....in the vein of The Beatles Anthology. Do The Evolution is very, very loud. But somewhere...there is a Gossard Acoustic Demo of it laying around. I'm sure that there's many Eddie demos that would be interesting to hear too....stuff like Off He Goes or Immortality with just him and an acoustic.

    No so sure about the kittens being freed but it's my understanding that some of the dogs were indeed found so that's good news: http://wegotshit.blogspot.com/2010/01/f ... _3106.html
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 41,828
    Love the title. They can Have someone from the PJ w/cats thread do the album cover like Johnny Utah or Paul Andrews. :lol:
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