When my fiance' got pregnant the doctors also told her she had cancer and they wanted her to abort. She refused and I supported her decision. Today all is well, with a beautiful daughter that is now five and full of LIFE.
...Funded by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family, the 30-second ad is expected to recount the story of Pam Tebow’s pregnancy in 1987. After getting sick during a mission trip to the Philippines, she ignored a recommendation by doctors to abort her fifth child. She later gave birth to Tim, who won the 2007 Heisman Trophy and helped his Florida team win two BCS championships.
The hypocritical folks at Focus on the Family are apparently oblivious to the underlying message here - Tim Tebow's mother had a choice. Good for her. She carried the baby full term and her son ended up being a successful collegiate athlete. So will we see a counter ad that Hitler's mom should've had an abortion?
When my fiance' got pregnant the doctors also told her she had cancer and they wanted her to abort. She refused and I supported her decision. Today all is well, with a beautiful daughter that is now five and full of LIFE.
Congratulations on your healthy daughter and fiance/wife. But what exactly is your point?
I'm going to start an organization called, 'Focus On Your Own DAMN Family'.
And yet again..
Cosmo.. Nail.. Head
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
I'm going to start an organization called, 'Focus On Your Own DAMN Family'.
But how will you become rich by not telling other people how to live? Apparently there is a lot of money to be made in that field.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
When my fiance' got pregnant the doctors also told her she had cancer and they wanted her to abort. She refused and I supported her decision. Today all is well, with a beautiful daughter that is now five and full of LIFE.
Congratulations on your healthy daughter and fiance/wife. But what exactly is your point?
Not sure if I have one. Just this thread got me thinking back, and how close we almost didn't have my daughter. Maybe things happen for a reason and you just gotta let God take over. If she wouldn't have gotten pregnant we never would have found out she had cancer until it was too late.
When my fiance' got pregnant the doctors also told her she had cancer and they wanted her to abort. She refused and I supported her decision. Today all is well, with a beautiful daughter that is now five and full of LIFE.
Congratulations on your healthy daughter and fiance/wife. But what exactly is your point?
Not sure if I have one. Just this thread got me thinking back, and how close we almost didn't have my daughter. Maybe things happen for a reason and you just gotta let God take over. If she wouldn't have gotten pregnant we never would have found out she had cancer until it was too late.
I'm glad it all worked out well for you and your family.
I'm glad it all worked out well for you and your family.
+1
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
When my fiance' got pregnant the doctors also told her she had cancer and they wanted her to abort. She refused and I supported her decision. Today all is well, with a beautiful daughter that is now five and full of LIFE.
Congratulations on your healthy daughter and fiance/wife. But what exactly is your point?
Not sure if I have one. Just this thread got me thinking back, and how close we almost didn't have my daughter. Maybe things happen for a reason and you just gotta let God take over. If she wouldn't have gotten pregnant we never would have found out she had cancer until it was too late.
this is beautiful and uplifting thank you
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superbowl ads should stay fun and be funny not turn into opinion wars
When my fiance' got pregnant the doctors also told her she had cancer and they wanted her to abort. She refused and I supported her decision. Today all is well, with a beautiful daughter that is now five and full of LIFE.
Congratulations on your healthy daughter and fiance/wife. But what exactly is your point?
Not sure if I have one. Just this thread got me thinking back, and how close we almost didn't have my daughter. Maybe things happen for a reason and you just gotta let God take over. If she wouldn't have gotten pregnant we never would have found out she had cancer until it was too late.
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Glad everything worked out regarding her choice.
It must have been a difficult one... to forego the Cancer Treatments during the pregnancy and afterwards, risking spread of the cancer to the ensuing stage... or risking the pregnancy with the toxic cancer treatments... or risking both with surgery. I'm sure you can understand why the doctors listed aborting the pregnancy as an option. And ultimately... it was the choice of the woman.
I believe THAT is what the vast majority of Pro-Choice people feel.
Sounds like it has worked out.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Glad everything worked out regarding her choice.
It must have been a difficult one... to forego the Cancer Treatments during the pregnancy and afterwards, risking spread of the cancer to the ensuing stage... or risking the pregnancy with the toxic cancer treatments... or risking both with surgery. I'm sure you can understand why the doctors listed aborting the pregnancy as an option. And ultimately... it was the choice of the woman.
I believe THAT is what the vast majority of Pro-Choice people feel.
Sounds like it has worked out.
For people that don't want this ad to be seen on TV, you sure talk a lot about the topic they will discuss?
No way are you going to suck me into an abortion debate today...it's friday!
it's not a debate on abortion ... the issue is should cbs allow all advocacy ads or should they choose which ones they allow or not ...
How is this a debate anyhow? CBS is a private business. When showing news programing they should stay away from these types of ads, etc. But during their other programming, they can show what they want. and they can take the heat from any opposition.
Is it a smart business move? I don't think so, but I don't get a say in how they run their business anymore then I get a say in how you run yours.
FYI - I get the issue here so you don't have to try and explain it to me. I just think it's a very stupid issue.
Is it Jesus some of you have a problem with, or is it the fact Tims mother did not have an abortion?....
I think it's the fact that if there was a pro-choice ad put on for the Superbowl, or pro-gay marriage, there would be complete outrage on the right, boycotts, etc...
Personally, I think both points of view should be represented civilly. However, we both know it would be commercial suicide for CBS to air a pro-choice or pro-gay marriage ad on Superbowl Sunday.
Did somebody say pro-gay ad? There wouldn't be a controversy about that, would there be?
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
I'm not qualified to participate in a response, as I am not personally "politically correct" to do so. There are so many judgemental Leftists on this websight. Hope your "Hope and Change" is everything you "Hoped" for. DUH!
it seems that cbs is now allowing "advocacy ads" for the super bowl this year. one of these commercials features tim tebow and his mom in an anti-abortion ad...i was ok with the zealot tebow writing bible verses on his eye black during his college games, but i do not agree with cbs allowing this commercial when it would never show anti-war ads, or pro-women's rights or pro gay rights ads. i think they are opening themselves up for a potential firestorm by politicizing the super bowl. the super bowl is not the platform for pushing a religious or political agenda...but i guess if you have the money you can buy an ad...
NEW YORK (AP)—CBS responded to complaints over a conservative group’s planned Super Bowl ad featuring football star Tim Tebow by saying that it had eased restrictions on advocacy ads and would consider “responsibly produced” ones for open spots in its Feb. 7 broadcast.
CBS Corp. said Tuesday it had received numerous e-mails—both critical and supportive—since a coalition of women’s groups began a protest campaign Monday against the ad, which the critics say will use Tebow and his mother to convey an anti-abortion message.
Funded by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family, the 30-second ad is expected to recount the story of Pam Tebow’s pregnancy in 1987. After getting sick during a mission trip to the Philippines, she ignored a recommendation by doctors to abort her fifth child. She later gave birth to Tim, who won the 2007 Heisman Trophy and helped his Florida team win two BCS championships.
CBS said Tuesday that the decision to air the Tebow ad reflected a change in its policies toward advocacy ads that has evolved over the past several years.
“We have for some time moderated our approach to advocacy submissions after it became apparent that our stance did not reflect public sentiment or industry norms,” said spokesman Dana McClintock. “In fact, most media outlets have accepted advocacy ads for some time.”
He said CBS “will continue to consider responsibly produced ads from all groups for the few remaining spots in Super Bowl XLIV.”
In 2004, CBS was criticized by many liberal organizations for rejecting an ad by the United Church of Christ highlighting the UCC’s welcoming stance toward gays and others who might feel shunned by more conservative churches.
CBS said Tuesday that, under its new policies, the UCC ad would have been accepted for airing. The network said that it has run ads in the past year or so with divergent views on topics such as the health care overhaul, climate change and energy policy.
Thirty-second commercials during the Super Bowl are selling for $2.5 million to $2.8 million.
On Monday, a coalition led by the New York-based Women’s Media Center, with backing from the National Organization for Women, the Feminist Majority Foundation and other groups, urged CBS to scrap the Tebow ad.
“An ad that uses sports to divide rather than to unite has no place in the biggest national sports event of the year—an event designed to bring Americans together,” said Jehmu Greene, president of the media center.
The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
Airing the commercial is a great idea...and should open up the playing field for all kinds of advocacy commercials, rather than "limiting" what we see on television...
Thank you! Finally someone whom didn't "leave their brain at home" responds in an educated manner! Cease with the Nazi-style censcorship and allow ALL viewpoints to be broadcasted! Not EVERYONE is a Leftist.
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The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
Airing the commercial is a great idea...and should open up the playing field for all kinds of advocacy commercials, rather than "limiting" what we see on television...
Thank you! Finally someone whom didn't "leave their brain at home" responds in an educated manner! Cease with the Nazi-style censcorship and allow ALL viewpoints to be broadcasted! Not EVERYONE is a Leftist.
:
Nah.. the Nazi-style censorship only applies to the gay dating site's ad....
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
I'm not qualified to participate in a response, as I am not personally "politically correct" to do so. There are so many judgemental Leftists on this websight. Hope your "Hope and Change" is everything you "Hoped" for. DUH!
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You seem quite angry... for a bunny rabbit.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Medicine is No Place for Monday Morning Quarterbacks
By Dr. Anne Davis
I know a little about football. I know the basic rules and I have been to a few pro games at Rich Stadium. I also know what I don’t know. As a gynecologist, I would never dream of telling a football coach how to lead a team to the Super Bowl. That’s why I’m mystified and frustrated that CBS is letting someone who knows nothing about my job tell Super Bowl viewers how to handle a complicated pregnancy.
I’m an ob/gyn who provides a range of health care to my patients, including abortion services. I know that some pregnant women face hard choices. Sometimes women end pregnancies to save their lives, or because their health or their baby’s health is compromised.
On January 16, CBS announced that it would broadcast an ad during the Super Bowl in which football player Tim Tebow and his mother, Pam, talk about her pregnancy with Tim. In past interviews, Pam has said that she contracted a dangerous infection during her pregnancy. Because of the medications she was taking, and other health problems, her doctors advised her to have an abortion. Pam refused.
Her story is compelling. Pam Tebow’s difficult pregnancy, however, doesn’t make her an expert in reproductive health, any more than attending a few NFL games makes me an expert on football.
Most women, thankfully, have healthy pregnancies. Others develop complications due to an existing health problem that worsens in pregnancy. Still others learn they have a disease, like cancer, while they are pregnant. When one of my patients faces medical complications in pregnancy, we discuss everything, both the risks and the treatment options.
Pam and Tim Tebow both survived this complicated pregnancy. The women who do not survive are not here to tell their stories, except through the doctors who treated them. I took care of Sarah, a 38-year-old woman with a serious auto-immune disease. Knowing that a pregnancy would threaten her health, Sarah used birth control, but she got pregnant anyway. As her pregnancy progressed, her condition worsened. Eventually, Sarah couldn’t get enough oxygen into her body to survive. We tried all the treatments we had. She was counseled that abortion was needed to save her life but she chose to wait, hospitalized, trying to get to a point when her baby could survive. Her condition deteriorated and finally, with our help, she ended the pregnancy. It was too late. Her heart and lungs was so badly compromised by the pregnancy that she died as her doctors tried to implant a pacemaker. I wish we would have been able to help Sarah sooner; she might be alive today caring for her teenage son.
The Super Bowl is the biggest day of the year for advertisers. As many viewers tune in for the ads as for the game. Front page stories will recount the highlights of the game—and the best and worst commercials that aired. That’s why Focus on the Family, an anti-abortion organization, not a medical organization, raised millions of dollars to air this commercial. They want to tell the broadest possible audience that women with complicated pregnancies can—and should!—ignore their doctors’ advice. As a physician, this leaves me feeling an urgency to get out a different message, one that conveys the reality we see in the hospital every day. Denial does not make risk go away.
When it comes to personal medical decisions, no Monday morning quarterback should be making the calls. For the sake of my patients—and the thousands of other women who face complicated pregnancies each year—I hope CBS will blow the whistle on the Tebows' ad.
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Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Congratulations on your healthy daughter and fiance/wife. But what exactly is your point?
Hail, Hail!!!
Cosmo.. Nail.. Head
LOL, pretty much...
+1 to both of you guys..
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
But how will you become rich by not telling other people how to live? Apparently there is a lot of money to be made in that field.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Not sure if I have one. Just this thread got me thinking back, and how close we almost didn't have my daughter. Maybe things happen for a reason and you just gotta let God take over. If she wouldn't have gotten pregnant we never would have found out she had cancer until it was too late.
I'm glad it all worked out well for you and your family.
and
superbowl ads should stay fun and be funny not turn into opinion wars
Glad everything worked out regarding her choice.
It must have been a difficult one... to forego the Cancer Treatments during the pregnancy and afterwards, risking spread of the cancer to the ensuing stage... or risking the pregnancy with the toxic cancer treatments... or risking both with surgery. I'm sure you can understand why the doctors listed aborting the pregnancy as an option. And ultimately... it was the choice of the woman.
I believe THAT is what the vast majority of Pro-Choice people feel.
Sounds like it has worked out.
Hail, Hail!!!
Well said, thank you. :thumbup:
No way are you going to suck me into an abortion debate today...it's friday!
it's not a debate on abortion ... the issue is should cbs allow all advocacy ads or should they choose which ones they allow or not ...
How is this a debate anyhow? CBS is a private business. When showing news programing they should stay away from these types of ads, etc. But during their other programming, they can show what they want. and they can take the heat from any opposition.
Is it a smart business move? I don't think so, but I don't get a say in how they run their business anymore then I get a say in how you run yours.
FYI - I get the issue here so you don't have to try and explain it to me. I just think it's a very stupid issue.
Oh, come on! It's Friday - the day that Dr. Tiller's murdered was convicted!!!
"Dr. Tiller murdered"...I agree.
D'oh! :oops:
It is a happy Friday for me! Happy Friday to you as well!
Oh wait....
http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/29/news/co ... wl/?hpt=P1
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
Thank you! Finally someone whom didn't "leave their brain at home" responds in an educated manner! Cease with the Nazi-style censcorship and allow ALL viewpoints to be broadcasted! Not EVERYONE is a Leftist.
:
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
You seem quite angry... for a bunny rabbit.
Hail, Hail!!!
By Dr. Anne Davis
I know a little about football. I know the basic rules and I have been to a few pro games at Rich Stadium. I also know what I don’t know. As a gynecologist, I would never dream of telling a football coach how to lead a team to the Super Bowl. That’s why I’m mystified and frustrated that CBS is letting someone who knows nothing about my job tell Super Bowl viewers how to handle a complicated pregnancy.
I’m an ob/gyn who provides a range of health care to my patients, including abortion services. I know that some pregnant women face hard choices. Sometimes women end pregnancies to save their lives, or because their health or their baby’s health is compromised.
On January 16, CBS announced that it would broadcast an ad during the Super Bowl in which football player Tim Tebow and his mother, Pam, talk about her pregnancy with Tim. In past interviews, Pam has said that she contracted a dangerous infection during her pregnancy. Because of the medications she was taking, and other health problems, her doctors advised her to have an abortion. Pam refused.
Her story is compelling. Pam Tebow’s difficult pregnancy, however, doesn’t make her an expert in reproductive health, any more than attending a few NFL games makes me an expert on football.
Most women, thankfully, have healthy pregnancies. Others develop complications due to an existing health problem that worsens in pregnancy. Still others learn they have a disease, like cancer, while they are pregnant. When one of my patients faces medical complications in pregnancy, we discuss everything, both the risks and the treatment options.
Pam and Tim Tebow both survived this complicated pregnancy. The women who do not survive are not here to tell their stories, except through the doctors who treated them. I took care of Sarah, a 38-year-old woman with a serious auto-immune disease. Knowing that a pregnancy would threaten her health, Sarah used birth control, but she got pregnant anyway. As her pregnancy progressed, her condition worsened. Eventually, Sarah couldn’t get enough oxygen into her body to survive. We tried all the treatments we had. She was counseled that abortion was needed to save her life but she chose to wait, hospitalized, trying to get to a point when her baby could survive. Her condition deteriorated and finally, with our help, she ended the pregnancy. It was too late. Her heart and lungs was so badly compromised by the pregnancy that she died as her doctors tried to implant a pacemaker. I wish we would have been able to help Sarah sooner; she might be alive today caring for her teenage son.
The Super Bowl is the biggest day of the year for advertisers. As many viewers tune in for the ads as for the game. Front page stories will recount the highlights of the game—and the best and worst commercials that aired. That’s why Focus on the Family, an anti-abortion organization, not a medical organization, raised millions of dollars to air this commercial. They want to tell the broadest possible audience that women with complicated pregnancies can—and should!—ignore their doctors’ advice. As a physician, this leaves me feeling an urgency to get out a different message, one that conveys the reality we see in the hospital every day. Denial does not make risk go away.
When it comes to personal medical decisions, no Monday morning quarterback should be making the calls. For the sake of my patients—and the thousands of other women who face complicated pregnancies each year—I hope CBS will blow the whistle on the Tebows' ad.
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2010/02/01/medicine-no-place-monday-morning-quarterbacks